Shame (2011, Dir: McQueen) Fasbender and Carey Mulligan - Page 5

Supermallet · 04-18-12, 12:26 PM

I think it's a film that rewards repeat viewing. I've seen it twice and know there's still more to be found in it.

Dr Mabuse · 04-18-12, 02:11 PM

Agree.

Until you have watched a film at least three times, you haven't truly watched it consciously, and have missed much of what is(or isn't) there. Great films continue to reveal and expand upon more substance, and most films, that are mediocre to lousy, continue to reveal and expand upon how weak and often stupid they are.

Great films, like this, reward repeated viewings.

Daytripper · 04-18-12, 02:46 PM

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Good film, glad it didn't end quite as badly as it looked like it was going to. Not a film you'd watch on a date or with a group of friends, but one that you tend to study, rather than just watch for entertainment.

Well I saw it with a small group of friends at the theater and I felt very uncomfortable in parts. When the movie ended and we all got up to leave, one of my friends said out loud for the whole theater to hear "Well, alrighty then. Happy holidays everyone!". Everyone laughed.

PopcornTreeCt · 04-18-12, 08:11 PM

I hope someday I'll make enough money to bang a chick against a full glass window over a busy intersection.

Daytripper · 04-18-12, 08:54 PM

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I hope someday I'll make enough money to bang a chick against a full glass window over a busy intersection.

Meh, it's overrated.

james2025a · 04-19-12, 07:45 AM

Watched this movie many, many times now and it just gets better with each viewing. Certainly not an easy movie to watch at moments, but rewarding non the less.

I was disappointed to see that the Digital Copy that comes with the Blu Ray does not have an MP4 version of the movieand just WMV or Android. Apparently Apple does not allow NC-17 movies via their store, hence the lack of the format. Pretty stupid if you ask me.

d2cheer · 04-19-12, 09:01 AM

Why do I keep thinking that

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I am looking forward to seeing it though.

joeblow69 · 04-19-12, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by james2025a

I was disappointed to see that the Digital Copy that comes with the Blu Ray does not have an MP4 version of the movieand just WMV or Android. Apparently Apple does not allow NC-17 movies via their store, hence the lack of the format. Pretty stupid if you ask me.

Wait, so if we rent this from iTunes, we get an edited version?

Rypro 525 · 04-19-12, 08:27 PM

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Wait, so if we rent this from iTunes, we get an edited version?

just went on the itunes store, and it does say 'NC-17' for the rating for Shame on the store. I dont know if an R rated version was made. as i think most blockbusters are closed down

PopcornTreeCt · 04-19-12, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by d2cheer

Why do I keep thinking that

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I am looking forward to seeing it though.

I think that would've been a better, more heart breaking ending.

sharkstank · 04-20-12, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt

I think that would've been a better, more heart breaking ending.

I'm glad that didn't happen

james2025a · 04-20-12, 08:03 AM

Watched again last night and i noticed that a lot of scenes have subliminal messages somewhere on screen. For example, at the beginning during the train sequence you see next to the girls head an advertisement for what looks like maybe a health care program with the words "Is this possible?" right next to her head. Also the scene where he bangs the girl from the bar there is graffiti behind her that says "Fuck." I love little touches like this in movies.

Supermallet · 04-20-12, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by d2cheer

Why do I keep thinking that

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I am looking forward to seeing it though.

I think it may have already happened prior to the start of the film.

Coral · 04-20-12, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Supermallet

I think it may have already happened prior to the start of the film.

I don't think that's what happened in their past.

PopcornTreeCt · 04-20-12, 05:57 PM

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I don't think that's what happened in their past.

I never got that impression either.

bluetoast · 04-20-12, 06:24 PM

I didn't get that vibe either. I did however get reminded of Commodus from Gladiator, during that scene on the couch when he confronted her. Not because Commodus's incest stuff, but Fassbender's character being a dick in that scene reminded me of Commodus's mean personality.

Mr. Cinema · 04-29-12, 06:34 PM

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her rendition just made me cringe.

as for the movie this didn't impress me in the slightest, I guess I was going into this with waaaay too much expectation. Sure the two play two messed up individuals, but honestly I thought this was tedious and I honestly didn't care about the characters let the alone the minimal story.

I agree. Fassbender was great, but there's not much to the film. And I don't want to ever hear Mulligan sing again.

My favorite part in the movie was the argument between Fassbender and Mulligan towards the end in his apartment.

LiquidSky · 04-29-12, 08:18 PM

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I'm glad that didn't happen

Me too.

bluetoast · 04-29-12, 08:19 PM

I don't know if it was just me but I also liked the character of Fassbender's boss. He may have not been in it all that long, but he was interesting when he was on screen.

LiquidSky · 04-29-12, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema

And I don't want to ever hear Mulligan sing again.

This is actually a catchy li'l ditty. Mulligan sings on it.

Artman · 04-29-12, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by bluetoast

I don't know if it was just me but I also liked the character of Fassbender's boss. He may have not been in it all that long, but he was interesting when he was on screen.

I like the actor, but I despised the character... and I think he was meant to come off as a sleazy, shallow guy. Similar to Brandon, but not in such a dysfunctional way.

inri222 · 07-09-12, 09:09 AM

Saw this a couple of days ago and I am still thinking about it.
Bravo Steve McQueen, Michael Fassbender & Carey Mulligan for making such a bold, mature & well crafted film.

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I don't think that's what happened in their past.

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Dr Mabuse · 07-09-12, 12:56 PM

It's obvious that incest was involved in their relationship. It was a big part of the theme.

Why So Blu? · 07-09-12, 02:57 PM

I didn't get the incest thing, though. I know they may or may not have been abused as children or were neglected by their parents or both, but it's way too abstract to know for sure. Then again I've only seen it once and thought it was a great film.

IstvanTheHun · 07-09-12, 04:18 PM

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i'm thinking of renting it ... Can someone give me a male to female nudity ratio?

You see some breasts and hairy bush, but nothing else that is female-NC-17. Plenty of full frontal male nudity though...that's what gave it the rating.

04-18-12, 12:26 PM	#101
Supermallet Moderator Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Termite Terrace Posts: 38,736	Re: Shame (2011, Dir: McQueen) Fasbender and Carey Mulligan I think it's a film that rewards repeat viewing. I've seen it twice and know there's still more to be found in it. __________________ "if you truly want to discuss Sodom with me, send me a PM" - dvdjunkie32 Watch me squawk on Twitter: @Supermallet Check out my Bond commentaries

04-18-12, 02:11 PM	#102
Dr Mabuse DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: 75 clicks above the Do Lung bridge... Posts: 18,852	Re: Shame (2011, Dir: McQueen) Fasbender and Carey Mulligan Agree. Until you have watched a film at least three times, you haven't truly watched it consciously, and have missed much of what is(or isn't) there. Great films continue to reveal and expand upon more substance, and most films, that are mediocre to lousy, continue to reveal and expand upon how weak and often stupid they are. Great films, like this, reward repeated viewings. __________________ "A moment's insight is sometimes worth a life's experience." - Oliver Wendell Holmes

04-18-12, 08:11 PM	#104
PopcornTreeCt DVD Talk Hero Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Central Florida Posts: 25,826	Re: Shame (2011, Dir: McQueen) Fasbender and Carey Mulligan I hope someday I'll make enough money to bang a chick against a full glass window over a busy intersection.

04-19-12, 07:45 AM	#106
james2025a DVD Talk Gold Edition Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 2,253	Re: Shame (2011, Dir: McQueen) Fasbender and Carey Mulligan Watched this movie many, many times now and it just gets better with each viewing. Certainly not an easy movie to watch at moments, but rewarding non the less. I was disappointed to see that the Digital Copy that comes with the Blu Ray does not have an MP4 version of the movieand just WMV or Android. Apparently Apple does not allow NC-17 movies via their store, hence the lack of the format. Pretty stupid if you ask me.

04-19-12, 09:01 AM	#107
d2cheer DVD Talk Limited Edition Join Date: Dec 1999 Posts: 5,524	Re: Shame (2011, Dir: McQueen) Fasbender and Carey Mulligan Why do I keep thinking that Spoiler: he ends up banging his sister in this I am looking forward to seeing it though.

04-20-12, 08:03 AM	#112
james2025a DVD Talk Gold Edition Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 2,253	Re: Shame (2011, Dir: McQueen) Fasbender and Carey Mulligan Watched again last night and i noticed that a lot of scenes have subliminal messages somewhere on screen. For example, at the beginning during the train sequence you see next to the girls head an advertisement for what looks like maybe a health care program with the words "Is this possible?" right next to her head. Also the scene where he bangs the girl from the bar there is graffiti behind her that says "Fuck." I love little touches like this in movies.

04-20-12, 06:24 PM	#116
bluetoast DVD Talk Limited Edition Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 6,054	Re: Shame (2011, Dir: McQueen) Fasbender and Carey Mulligan I didn't get that vibe either. I did however get reminded of Commodus from Gladiator, during that scene on the couch when he confronted her. Not because Commodus's incest stuff, but Fassbender's character being a dick in that scene reminded me of Commodus's mean personality. __________________ Uh oh...

04-29-12, 08:19 PM	#119
bluetoast DVD Talk Limited Edition Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 6,054	Re: Shame (2011, Dir: McQueen) Fasbender and Carey Mulligan I don't know if it was just me but I also liked the character of Fassbender's boss. He may have not been in it all that long, but he was interesting when he was on screen. __________________ Uh oh...

07-09-12, 12:56 PM	#123
Dr Mabuse DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: 75 clicks above the Do Lung bridge... Posts: 18,852	Re: Shame (2011, Dir: McQueen) Fasbender and Carey Mulligan It's obvious that incest was involved in their relationship. It was a big part of the theme. __________________ "A moment's insight is sometimes worth a life's experience." - Oliver Wendell Holmes

07-09-12, 02:57 PM	#124
Why So Blu? DVD Talk Platinum Edition Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,987	Re: Shame (2011, Dir: McQueen) Fasbender and Carey Mulligan I didn't get the incest thing, though. I know they may or may not have been abused as children or were neglected by their parents or both, but it's way too abstract to know for sure. Then again I've only seen it once and thought it was a great film.