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Old 03-03-12, 12:37 PM
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re: Top Gun 2: Return to the Danger Zone - S: Cruise, Kilmer, Edwards

Originally Posted by arminius
It's also fitting as now gay people are accepted in the military. So in that it was ahead of its time.
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Originally Posted by Bluelitespecial
I have been watching Top Gun a lot recently, and you want to know why. For me its one of the greatest films to portray American exceptionalism and patriotism. I hope that Top Gun 2 could capture that same feeling for me because we need it in America right now.
Really?

Top Gun is drivel and propaganda for the simple minded. I found it heavy-handed, cringeworthy and downright embarrassing.

Different strokes.
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Originally Posted by JumpCutz
Really?

Top Gun is drivel and propaganda for the simple minded. I found it heavy-handed, cringeworthy and downright embarrassing.

Different strokes.
More propaganda huh? So honestly, in your eyes, how many propaganda films has Hollywood released?

I just don't get the argument. Pro military = propaganda. Anti military = thought provoking. Yawn.
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re: Top Gun 2: Return to the Danger Zone - S: Cruise, Kilmer, Edwards

Originally Posted by arminius
It's also fitting as now gay people are accepted in the military. So in that it was ahead of its time.
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re: Top Gun 2: Return to the Danger Zone - S: Cruise, Kilmer, Edwards

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More propaganda huh? So honestly, in your eyes, how many propaganda films has Hollywood released?

I just don't get the argument. Pro military = propaganda. Anti military = thought provoking. Yawn.
Not sure in regards to your first question.

I'm not talking about other films only Top Gun, which I find to be a handsomely mounted piece of very effective propaganda. I don't believe the film was made soley as a recruiting tool though. It was a byproduct of the finished film and appealed to, amongst others, a pretty specific demographic at that time (teen age boys).
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re: Top Gun 2: Return to the Danger Zone - S: Cruise, Kilmer, Edwards

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Not sure in regards to your first question.

I'm not talking about other films only Top Gun, which I find to be a handsomely mounted piece of very effective propaganda. I don't believe the film was made soley as a recruiting tool though. It was a byproduct of the finished film and appealed to, amongst others, a pretty specific demographic at that time (teen age boys).
I still don't get it. Tom Cruise and the American military were the heroes of the movie. Should they have lost at the end? Should the Russians have shot Maverick down and sunk that ship or whatever they were trying to do? It was an action movie. How many action movies have you seen, especially in the 80's, where the good guys didn't win?

And beyond that, it was a cool way to see a bunch of badass fighter jets. Of course it appealed to teen age boys. Who doesn't think fighter jets are cool?

Was True Lies a propaganda film whose purpose was to recruit for the CIA? Was Twister a propaganda film to recruit people to become meteorologists? Was Armageddon a propaganda film to recruit for NASA? Why can't a film that portrays American soldiers in a positive be anything other than a propaganda film?
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re: Top Gun 2: Return to the Danger Zone - S: Cruise, Kilmer, Edwards

Originally Posted by whoopdido
And beyond that, it was a cool way to see a bunch of badass fighter jets. Of course it appealed to teen age boys. Who doesn't think fighter jets are cool?

Was True Lies a propaganda film whose purpose was to recruit for the CIA? Was Twister a propaganda film to recruit people to become meteorologists? Was Armageddon a propaganda film to recruit for NASA? Why can't a film that portrays American soldiers in a positive be anything other than a propaganda film?
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Originally Posted by whoopdido
I still don't get it. Tom Cruise and the American military were the heroes of the movie. Should they have lost at the end? Should the Russians have shot Maverick down and sunk that ship or whatever they were trying to do?
Ther were Koreans
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re: Top Gun 2: Return to the Danger Zone - S: Cruise, Kilmer, Edwards

So we're all just ignoring the fact that the first movie sucked and is only memorable for featuring the gayest volleyball game in mainstream movie history?
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So we're all just ignoring the fact that the first movie sucked and is only memorable for featuring the gayest volleyball game in mainstream movie history?
x 100
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re: Top Gun 2: Return to the Danger Zone - S: Cruise, Kilmer, Edwards

Who wants to bet they call it "Top Guns"
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re: Top Gun 2: Return to the Danger Zone - S: Cruise, Kilmer, Edwards

How about "Top Gun: The Return of Topper Harley"
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re: Top Gun 2: Return to the Danger Zone - S: Cruise, Kilmer, Edwards

Originally Posted by RocShemp
So we're all just ignoring the fact that the first movie sucked and is only memorable for featuring the gayest volleyball game in mainstream movie history?
I think this says more about you than about the movie
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re: Top Gun 2: Return to the Danger Zone - S: Cruise, Kilmer, Edwards

Originally Posted by PenguinJoe
Who wants to bet they call it "Top Guns"
There's already an adult spoof called that. Don't ask how I know that.
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re: Top Gun 2: Return to the Danger Zone - S: Cruise, Kilmer, Edwards

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Ther were Koreans
They were?

See that's hysterical because I've seen the movie 100 times and yet I always thought they were russians. Shows how absolutely inconsiquential the villains were in that film.
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They were?

See that's hysterical because I've seen the movie 100 times and yet I always thought they were russians. Shows how absolutely inconsiquential the villains were in that film.
Actually I think they were Cubans. Cuba has MIGs right?
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re: Top Gun 2: Return to the Danger Zone - S: Cruise, Kilmer, Edwards

Originally Posted by whoopdido
Actually I think they were Cubans. Cuba has MIGs right?
Only by way of Russia. I always thought it was Russians in the movie; being cold war propaganda and all. Still thought it was a great action flick in a cheesy 80's way.
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re: Top Gun 2: Return to the Danger Zone - S: Cruise, Kilmer, Edwards

Saw a quick clip of Bruckheimer at CinemaCon saying "We don't do it without Tom." So there's that.
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Top Gun 2 is still aiming for lift off said Jerry Bruckheimer today. “For 30 years we’ve been trying to make a sequel and we’re not going to stop. We still want to do it with Tom and Paramount are still interested in making it,” the producer said Sunday at the Produced By conference. “What Tom tells me is that no matter where he goes in the world, people refer to him as Maverick,” added Bruckheimer of Tom Cruise who starred as the rebel fighter jet pilot in the original 1986 movie. “It’s something he is excited about so as long as he keeps his enthusiasm hopefully we’ll get it made,” Bruckheimer said about the sequel and its star. Bruckheimer noted that the death of original Top Gun director Tony Scott last August did put a pause on the project.
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I doubt a sequel will be made now, since Tony Scott is dead. Ridley could put it together as a tribute, but it might come off as a parody.
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re: Top Gun 2: Return to the Danger Zone - S: Cruise, Kilmer, Edwards

Originally Posted by moviefan2k4
I doubt a sequel will be made now, since Tony Scott is dead. Ridley could put it together as a tribute, but it might come off as a parody.
Tom Cruise has said as much - no chance of a sequel now that Scott is gone. Unless Bruckheimer has gotten him to change his mind (which would be a 180 on what Cruise has stated recently).
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re: Top Gun 2: Return to the Danger Zone - S: Cruise, Kilmer, Edwards

As long as Tom Cruise isn't in it, a sequel would be great....as would a remake of the first one.
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re: Top Gun 2: Return to the Danger Zone - S: Cruise, Kilmer, Edwards

I avoided Cruise for a long time after all the Scientology crap...and while I still don't agree with it, he did a great job with "Ghost Protocol". I'm excited for the fifth one, and I still haven't seen "Valkyrie".
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Scott's greater bro directing as a tribute? Cruise returning? Lol. None of this shit will occur gentlemen.
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re: Top Gun 2: Return to the Danger Zone - S: Cruise, Kilmer, Edwards

I said the exact thing about Ridley Scott making another Alien movie. I think it's slim, but still possible that Paramount and Cruise will still make one. When there's money to still be made on the Top Gun name, they will find a way to make it.


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