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Old 06-22-10, 01:16 PM   #1
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Puch Drunk Love Explained

After looking at the amazing montage of "Scorsese vs. Kubrick" that was posted here. I looked for Leandro Copperfield Youtube channel and i found this very interesting video explaining "Punch Drunk Love"

Do not watch if you haven't seen the movie as there is obvious spoilers

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Old 06-22-10, 03:08 PM   #2
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Well, that's seven and a half minutes of my life I'll never get back.
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Old 06-22-10, 03:12 PM   #3
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PDL is one of my favorite movies ever. But this video is as wrong as all the people
Spoiler:
who still believe that the people on LOST were dead the entire time.


Barry is real, alive, and falls in love. That's the movie. PTA was just trying to make a magical neo-French film that was less heavy and more whimsical then his previous two. I love film criticism when it is good and there is fact behind it (like Ebert's Citizen Kane dvd commentary) but this thing was just grasping at straws in every way.

I don't think sun flares and white illuminations signify anything other than the fact that PTA is kinda an artsy fartsy movie director. Ugh.

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Old 06-22-10, 03:14 PM   #4
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You misspelled "Puck Drunk Love" in the subject header.



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Old 06-22-10, 03:25 PM   #5
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Please supply the cliff notes version. I'd rather waste 30 seconds reading the explanation than 7.5 minutes watching...
Barry is dead. Lena is an angel. "Explained" through broken English interstitials and half-assed clip editing.
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Old 06-22-10, 03:27 PM   #6
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Re: Puch Drunk Love Explained

Is there ANY piece of literature or film that hasn't been interpreted by some psuedo-intellectual as "the main character is dead"?
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Old 06-22-10, 03:30 PM   #7
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You misspelled "Puck Drunk Love" in the subject header.



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Dammit I don't think i have the proper rights to change it
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Old 06-22-10, 04:30 PM   #8
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RE: Lost(does that need a spoiler?)
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Old 06-22-10, 04:38 PM   #9
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PDL is one of my favorite movies ever. But this video is as wrong as all the people
Spoiler:
who still believe that the people on LOST
Awesome. Thanks for ruining that for me. You need to spoilerize shit, seriously. If I would have known there as a spoiler for Lost in a thread that had nothing to do with it I wouldn't have clicked on it just like I avoid the Lost threads in tv talk.
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Old 06-22-10, 04:45 PM   #10
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That isn't a spoiler.
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Old 06-22-10, 04:48 PM   #11
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Awesome. Thanks for ruining that for me. You need to spoilerize shit, seriously. If I would have known there as a spoiler for Lost in a thread that had nothing to do with it I wouldn't have clicked on it just like I avoid the Lost threads in tv talk.
Awesome, same thing happened to me. I have yet to finish the final season so thanks for that.
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Old 06-22-10, 04:59 PM   #12
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That isn't a spoiler.
Says who? Sounds like one to me.

What if I was one of those people who felt that way before the spoiler, or at least WOULD have without seeing that.

It's not like it's hard to type a spoiler tag honestly, and people need to start erring on the side of caution instead of posting it and then asking without the tags if it needs one. It takes 3 seconds to add the tags, that's what they are there for.

I've seen people get banned or warned for excessive spoilers so I think they are pretty serious about that here.
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Old 06-22-10, 04:59 PM   #13
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Is there ANY piece of literature or film that hasn't been interpreted by some psuedo-intellectual as "the main character is dead"?
Caddyshack II?
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Old 06-22-10, 05:05 PM   #14
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Says who? Sounds like one to me.
I'd have to use spoiler tags.
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Old 06-22-10, 05:18 PM   #15
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Mod Note: If you have to ask whether or not something should be put in spoiler tags, be sensible and put it in spoiler tags.
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Old 06-22-10, 05:23 PM   #16
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Many apologies. Even though I questioned the initial spoiler, I don't think I spoiled anything. No matter what I said about LOST everyone thinks what they think. It's like Kimmel said "I'll be honest, I don't really know what happened but I have my theories and all I know is that everyone elses theories are 100% wrong." Whatever I said is totally wrong...or right...or whatever you want.

Which makes me think about spoilers in general.

At what point do we get to openly talk about shows without having to hid everything. Before Lost ended I remember EWeekly doing a 'best finales' ever. Most of the shows were older, Newhart, Mash, etc...but they still 'spoiled the endings'. So, should EW have put spoiler tags over why the ending of MASH was so good? Isn't that overkill?

It just feels as though their should be a point where things can be openly discussed. I admit that I fall behind on shows. I just finished Fringe and Justified. I have 9 episodes of Parenthood and 24 of Burn Notice. Falling behind is my fault and when I learned by mistake who burned Michael that was the price I had to pay. I didn't get mad because someone talked about what happened two hours, weeks, or seasons ago. If I really cared, I would have caught up by now.

So, honestly, at what point do we get to openly talk about movies and shows...or anything...on any forum...in any post? Punch Drunk Love came out eight years ago but the original post warned of spoilers...REALLY? Should I not say who won WrestleMania in 1993 because someone might go back and watch it on DVD? Is the wrong to say that the Lakers won the NBA title last week?

I understand that I stepped on some toes and for that I sincerely apologize...especially considering that it was LOST...but it's the age of the internet and I guess I just don't take these things so seriously anymore.
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Old 06-22-10, 05:35 PM   #17
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Many apologies. Even though I questioned the initial spoiler, I don't think I spoiled anything. No matter what I said about LOST everyone thinks what they think. It's like Kimmel said "I'll be honest, I don't really know what happened but I have my theories and all I know is that everyone elses theories are 100% wrong." Whatever I said is totally wrong...or right...or whatever you want.

Which makes me think about spoilers in general.

At what point do we get to openly talk about shows without having to hid everything. Before Lost ended I remember EWeekly doing a 'best finales' ever. Most of the shows were older, Newhart, Mash, etc...but they still 'spoiled the endings'. So, should EW have put spoiler tags over why the ending of MASH was so good? Isn't that overkill?

It just feels as though their should be a point where things can be openly discussed. I admit that I fall behind on shows. I just finished Fringe and Justified. I have 9 episodes of Parenthood and 24 of Burn Notice. Falling behind is my fault and when I learned by mistake who burned Michael that was the price I had to pay. I didn't get mad because someone talked about what happened two hours, weeks, or seasons ago. If I really cared, I would have caught up by now.

So, honestly, at what point do we get to openly talk about movies and shows...or anything...on any forum...in any post? Punch Drunk Love came out eight years ago but the original post warned of spoilers...REALLY? Should I not say who won WrestleMania in 1993 because someone might go back and watch it on DVD? Is the wrong to say that the Lakers won the NBA title last week?

I understand that I stepped on some toes and for that I sincerely apologize...especially considering that it was LOST...but it's the age of the internet and I guess I just don't take these things so seriously anymore.
For movies you should spoiler tag any major twists/revelations, unless you note in the thread title that there are spoilers.

For episode-specific TV threads you can discuss anything openly. Otherwise, you should use spoiler tags.

For sports you can discuss anything openly after the game has aired, as long as you don't post results in the thread title.

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Old 06-22-10, 05:38 PM   #18
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I get all that. I read the spoiler thread I wasn't really asking for specifics as to when or where, just asking more broad 'big' questions. For example Citizen Kane came out in 1941 do we really need to hide the fact that
Spoiler:
the dude dies at the end


I get it, think I have mastered the art of spoiler tags, and won't let it happen again. I just seems like overkill.

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Old 06-22-10, 05:58 PM   #19
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For example Citizen Kane came out in 1941 do we really need to hide the fact that
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the dude dies at the end
Wrong.
Spoiler:
He dies at the beginning.
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For example Citizen Kane came out in 1941 do we really need to hide the fact that
Spoiler:
the dude dies at the end
Re: Citizen Kane
Spoiler:
the dude dies at the beginning


Re: Lost
That's technically not a spoiler, but the way it's edited now makes it impossible for people to know what show is being "spoiled" without clicking on the spoiler (or reading ahead in the thread to see what people are complaining about).

Re: the original topic
I watched the first 20-30 seconds of the video, just enough to see the thesis, and stopped. It seems like whenever someone thinks they've "explained" a story in a unique way that no one has thought of before it's of the form so-and-so is really dead and is trying to get to heaven. I'd say this is because so many movies, books, etc. focus on redemption as a theme.

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I've got a unique explanation of a 1991 Harrison Ford movie, if anyone wants to hear it.
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Wrong.
Spoiler:
He dies at the beginning.
Wrong.

Spoiler:
He's not dead. That's just some psuedo-intellectualist's bullshit
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Old 06-22-10, 06:08 PM   #22
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Spoiler:
it's been years...dead's dead
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Old 06-22-10, 06:13 PM   #23
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it's been years...dead's dead
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There is no death - only transmigration of the soul.
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I watched the first 20-30 seconds of the video, just enough to see the thesis, and stopped. It seems like whenever someone thinks they've "explained" a story in a unique way that no one has thought of before it's of the form so-and-so is really dead and is trying to get to heaven. I'd say this is because so many movies, books, etc. focus on redemption as a theme.
I just thought it was interesting to look at it in a different way... Even though its true most movies can be looked at with the same light
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Old 06-22-10, 06:53 PM   #25
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Ghostbusters:

Peter Venkman is really dead. Slimer is his ghost. When he get's slimed it's Venkman sliming himself and it represents his own self actualization as he comes to understand his mortality. At the end he is the only one who isn't covered in marshmellow. This is because he is actually dead. And what's the final image of Ghostbusters? Slimer flying toward the audience. Peter Venkman's soul is going to heaven.

You braindead chumps probably thought it was a diverting comedy/action film. Too bad you aren't vastly intellectually superior like me.

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