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Old 04-11-10, 12:32 PM   #26
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I really liked his performance in "Wonderland" as well, he played John Hughes very well, although I have no real basis to tell how accurate his performance was.
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Old 04-11-10, 01:20 PM   #27
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I really liked his performance in "Wonderland" as well, he played John Hughes very well, although I have no real basis to tell how accurate his performance was.



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Old 04-11-10, 01:22 PM   #28
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I heard a rumor that Annabella Sciorra got him hooked on heroin.
Well, if someone's going to get you hooked, she's the one I'd want to have around when I/we was feeding my jones.
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Old 04-11-10, 03:04 PM   #29
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Old 04-11-10, 03:19 PM   #30
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Kilmer...acts as an advisor to the New Mexico Film Investment Program. His commitment to that program has stimulated an increase in the state's annual production revenue, from $3 million in 2002 to $117 million in 2006.
There's your answer to "what the hell happened to Val Kilmer." He's an actor, not a movie star, and one who apparently is content to work outside Los Angeles--to the benefit of his home state. In a perfect world, there'd be a lot more Val Kilmers.
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Old 04-11-10, 03:31 PM   #31
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There's your answer to "what the hell happened to Val Kilmer." He's an actor, not a movie star, and one who apparently is content to work outside Los Angeles--to the benefit of his home state. In a perfect world, there'd be a lot more Val Kilmers.
Kilmer is notorious in the film world for being "difficult" to cope with on set. Tantrums, no-shows, various other guises of prima dona behaviour.. The guy's a bit of a prick if even a tiny fraction of his press is to be believed. His removal from the a-list of Hollywood actors was not entirely his own choice.

That being said I did enjoy him in Heat and much earlier in some of his 80s movies. It's interesting to note how successful Robert Downey Jr has become after his rejuvination in Kiss Kiss Bang Band, and how that success has not translated to Val Kilmer, who I thought put in a very impressive turn.
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Old 04-11-10, 03:41 PM   #32
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Kilmer is notorious in the film world for being "difficult" to cope with on set. Tantrums, no-shows, various other guises of prima dona behaviour.. The guy's a bit of a prick if even a tiny fraction of his press is to be believed. His removal from the a-list of Hollywood actors was not entirely his own choice.
I've always wondered about this, since we know the entertainment world thrives on pacifying whining starlets and keeping self-important stars safely confined within their bubbles of "yes" people. One wonders whether Kilmer is really so combative, or perhaps just not as easily mollified as everyone else? Moreover, we'll never really know what the impetuses for those fits were. Maybe it was something as pointless as whether or not the catering team used clear or opaque cups, but maybe it was something more legitimate. We'll never know, of course; it's all been buried under the label "creative differences."

In any event, I've never met the guy so he continues to exist purely as an entertainer to me. Knowing how cash-strapped New Mexico is, I tip my hat to the guy for bringing in the kind of business that Ropes Pierre cited.

Oh, and I liked him as Batman. There, I said it!
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Old 04-11-10, 07:43 PM   #33
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Val Kilmer remains one of my favorite actors of all time. There I said it. He's one of the few actors that can convincingly pull of different genres and themes. If you don't like and/or appreciate Spartan, Real Genius, Tombstone, Willow, Batman Forever etc... there's something wrong with you. :P

One of my goals is to collect as many Val Kilmer movies as possible. These DTV movies is going to make that a bit harder now.
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Old 04-11-10, 07:48 PM   #34
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Val Kilmer remains one of my favorite actors of all time. There I said it. He's one of the few actors that can convincingly pull of different genres and themes. If you don't like and/or appreciate Spartan, Real Genius, Tombstone, Willow, Batman Forever etc... there's something wrong with you. :P

One of my goals is to collect as many Val Kilmer movies as possible. These DTV movies is going to make that a bit harder now.
I was with you until you said Batman Forever. He's far by the worst Batman unlike Clooney who had none of Batman's characteristics (except he's a playboy in real life like Bruce) was at least fun. Kilmer had no emotion.
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Old 04-11-10, 07:52 PM   #35
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I actually thought the Kilmer's turn as Batman was better than Clooney's. Clooney might have been fun but I liked Kilmer's brooding better. Then again, I haven't watched the movie in a few years now. I do think a Kilmer marathon would be pretty cool though.
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Old 04-11-10, 08:06 PM   #36
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'The Salton Sea' is another good VK movie with a great cast. It's on the level of Wonderland and Spartan. Solid films.
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Old 04-11-10, 08:08 PM   #37
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I thought he was great in Bad Lieutenant: Port of call New Orleans.

Of course he'll always be Chris Knight/Shiherlis to me.
He was in 2 scenes for about 3 minutes.

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I actually thought the Kilmer's turn as Batman was better than Clooney's. Clooney might have been fun but I liked Kilmer's brooding better. Then again, I haven't watched the movie in a few years now. I do think a Kilmer marathon would be pretty cool though.
I liked Kilmer better too.
Clooney's head was wobbling in his Bats film more then it normally does in his other movies.
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Old 04-11-10, 08:14 PM   #38
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Old 04-11-10, 08:52 PM   #39
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Not enough people saw Spartan. I recommend it, if you're renting Netflix - or just want to take a chance buying it for $10-or-so.
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Old 04-11-10, 08:59 PM   #40
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Re: What the hell happened to Val Kilmer?!?

Loved Spartan, really like Kiss Kiss Bang Bang. I thought he was a better Batman than Clooney, and I'd like to see him in more stuff.

As long as he still grabs the occasional big role (Deja Vu, MacGruber), I'm not concerned that his career's going down the tubes. You don't see Cuba Gooding Jr. alternating between DTV and theatrical.
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Old 04-12-10, 12:00 AM   #41
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... Clooney might have been fun but I liked Kilmer's brooding better...
Yeah, but Clooney did get one the best lines in the entire franchise.

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Old 04-12-10, 12:47 AM   #42
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Porn legend Seka thought he was a jerk.

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Old 04-12-10, 12:56 AM   #43
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He was in 2 scenes for about 3 minutes.
And it was great to see him in a recent movie that wasn't DTV/shit.

The fact that he wasn't in the film much doesn't take away from it being enjoyable to see him doing his thing on screen.
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Old 04-12-10, 08:39 AM   #44
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And it was great to see him in a recent movie that wasn't DTV/shit.

The fact that he wasn't in the film much doesn't take away from it being enjoyable to see him doing his thing on screen.
That and his character seemed pretty ruthless
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He was a fantastic Doc Holliday in TOMBSTONE. I thought he was pretty damned good in BATMAN FOREVER, too. Look at the characters he's played, in addition to Doc and Batman: Billy the Kid, Elvis (TRUE ROMANCE), Jim Morrison (THE DOORS), Simon Templar, Willem de Kooning (POLLOCK), the voice of Moses (PRINCE OF EGYPT), and in something upcoming listed on IMDB, Mark Twain. I think he'd be great as Twain. I was surprised to see that Kilmer turned 50 on Dec. 31.

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Old 04-12-10, 02:25 PM   #46
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He was a fantastic Doc Holliday in TOMBSTONE.
Loved him in Tombstone:

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Old 04-12-10, 03:02 PM   #47
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I'm sure most actors would kill for Kilmer's filmography and even his current career. Top Secret, Real Genius, Tombstone, The Saint, Heat, Spartan, and Kiss Kiss Bang Bang would all probably make my top 100 favorites. He certainly gets enough work these days, and it's great what he's doing for New Mexico.

And, I'm going to say it: next to Kevin Conroy's voice-acting from the animated series, he is the best modern Batman. *runs*
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Old 04-12-10, 03:11 PM   #48
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And, I'm going to say it: next to Kevin Conroy's voice-acting from the animated series, he is the best modern Batman. *runs*
"Best Batman" is highly debatable, of course. I would be much quicker to agree that his Bruce Wayne was the most interesting. Kilmer is the only one who played it as though Bruce is a largely functional human being. Typically, Bruce Wayne is a chance to show the lead actor out of the costume (appeasing him and his agents, who want a lot of uncovered face time on screen), and he's written as Batman's brooding, socially awkward public persona. Kilmer gives us a sense that he really is the same person in and out of costume, and he really infused the role with some depth...which really had to have been hard, given the movie in which he did this!
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