Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
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Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
Also, my point stands - there's nothing really in that trailer that tells Joe Public that this is a reboot. The ONLY thing is the brief shot of him walking in high school. People are going to think this is Spider-Man 4 and be terribly confused.
I hold to my opinion that this will be by far the least successful of the movies.
I hold to my opinion that this will be by far the least successful of the movies.
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Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
I don't remember the CGI in Spider-Man(2002) but the CGI in the sequels was very good. With all of the issues of Spider-Man 3 you could never complain about the special effects. Sandman looked amazing. The CGI in the trailer for The Amazing Spider-Man does not look seamless, it needs a lot more work. One of the downsides of cutting a budget from over $200 million down to $80 million. It's not like there was one or two bad shots in the trailer, but the majority of the special effects shots look bad to me. Spider-Man is ten years old so it's understandable that the effects look a bit dated but with TASM it's obvious that the studio is cutting corners on the budget.
Is Joe Public really that stupid? People thought that "Joe Public" would be turned off of Batman Begins because it came off of Batman & Robin (although there was a longer wait between movies). I know our community is more in tune with movies and their production, but I would hope that information as basic as a film being a reboot can be gleaned by someone who is purported to be our average moviegoer.
And from the most recent trailer posted, no, I don't feel that most people can tell - solely based on that trailer alone - that it's a reboot.
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The visual FX from Sony Imageworks is the same in every movie they do: it looks like a painting and not an effect which is really bad when they mix live elements and effects as the difference is pretty jarring to me.
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I haven't seen the previous 3 spider-man movies in many years, but when Spidey was swinging through the air and between buildings, that always looked really fake to me. in this new trailer, it does not. looks way more realistic.
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The worst CGI from the original was of him jumping over the buildings. That was horrible looking.
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I don't remember the CGI in Spider-Man(2002) but the CGI in the sequels was very good. With all of the issues of Spider-Man 3 you could never complain about the special effects. Sandman looked amazing. The CGI in the trailer for The Amazing Spider-Man does not look seamless, it needs a lot more work. One of the downsides of cutting a budget from over $200 million down to $80 million. It's not like there was one or two bad shots in the trailer, but the majority of the special effects shots look bad to me. Spider-Man is ten years old so it's understandable that the effects look a bit dated but with TASM it's obvious that the studio is cutting corners on the budget.
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Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
The web swinging in the trailer looks exhilarating to me, regardless of how they did. Between the framing and the motion, along with the lighting and (again) use of color to 'pop out' the figure in the foreground and make action clear and readable- the special effects , at least going by the trailer are not an issue with me at all. I was also curious how well the 3D would work with all night shooting, but I can tell from the 2D trailer, that they thought it out well and it should look pretty damn good.
What is likely not to work nearly as well is the Ang Lee Hulk style origin elements. I actually did mind that aspect one bit in Hulk, because I thought it gave the material more thematic heft than it otherwise would have- but Spidey is different. The whole point of his appeal is that he was just an average kid from Queens, with above average intelligence, who had this thing foisted upon him. He is a hero because of the choices he makes.
This whole 'destined from birth' angle is another woeful trend we have to put up with in what seems like every other fantasy movie these days.
I'll likely have to look past that, just the way I looked past Dunsts miscasting and a few other details of the Raimi films to enjoy this film- but I don't see it as a huge hurdle right now.
Still love S-M2, and am happy to have it. No one will take it away from me.
It's still one of the most cohesive super-hero movies out there imo.
I can go into an 'elseworlds'* take on the character with an open mind and see how it is. If it works as a story and I care about the characters, no harm no foul. Eventually it will get rebooted again and more things modified anyway.
*yeah I know, different company- but I try to ignore the 'Ultimate' universe as much as possible.
Last edited by Paul_SD; 05-04-12 at 06:54 PM.
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Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
Have to remember that ten years ago, this was the closest we ever got to seeing this character fully realized in live action. That they got better than 50% of the web swinging shots spot on was a huge achievement to me. Along with the first person perspective used in the little effects coda at the end, it was a blast to get what we got. Though I do remember getting the DVD as soon as it came out and realizing there just wasn't a whole lot of those scenes in the film. The good swinging shots were just too brief. Knew I would have to wait another two years to get a movie that had them through the whole thing, rather than just a couple scenes in the second half.
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One of the things I wished we saw more of in part 1: When they first showed Peter Parker dodge Flash Parker's punch, we saw how quick Peter's reaction was, and how he saw things "slower" in a way. Yeah, kinda Matrixy but still neat. I expected at least one or two more of those during the movie. Maybe dodging the Goblin glider was an instance of that, but I forget.
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One of the things I wished we saw more of in part 1: When they first showed Peter Parker dodge Flash Parker's punch, we saw how quick Peter's reaction was, and how he saw things "slower" in a way. Yeah, kinda Matrixy but still neat. I expected at least one or two more of those during the movie. Maybe dodging the Goblin glider was an instance of that, but I forget.
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Not to derail the thread, but perhaps you could provide us with some comparison screenshots, Paul, so we can better understand what you mean when you say teal and orange grading, because I am not seeing this in movies where you claim it to be prevalent, so I'd love to know exactly what you're referring to.
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Not to derail the thread, but perhaps you could provide us with some comparison screenshots, Paul, so we can better understand what you mean when you say teal and orange grading, because I am not seeing this in movies where you claim it to be prevalent, so I'd love to know exactly what you're referring to.
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Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
From the recent Born To Be Wild.
And someone started a topic a couple years ago.
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/movie-talk/...p-madness.html
And someone started a topic a couple years ago.
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/movie-talk/...p-madness.html
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