Any news on a new Star Wars film?

[calhoun07]

Originally Posted by dogmatica

Nnnnno.

You seem rather dogmatic about it (ironically enough.) I am not sure how old you were, but I grew up on the Star Wars movies...there was always word flying around that there would be nine episodes in total. You can keep on posting these no's all you want but you fail to really back it up.

And I can understand that they had no intentions to film all nine episodes, but people have known there was a loose plan for nine episodes.

[Philzilla]

Originally Posted by calhoun07

You seem rather dogmatic about it (ironically enough.) I am not sure how old you were, but I grew up on the Star Wars movies...there was always word flying around that there would be nine episodes in total. You can keep on posting these no's all you want but you fail to really back it up.

And I can understand that they had no intentions to film all nine episodes, but people have known there was a loose plan for nine episodes.

Just because at one point in time Lucas said it to Starlog doesn't make it true either.
The most recent "Lucas says", claims the saga has been the redemption of Vader all along.
That's not true either.

read The Secret History of Star Wars by Michael Kaminski

[coli]

Originally Posted by Philzilla

Just because at one point in time Lucas said it to Starlog doesn't make it true either.
The most recent "Lucas says", claims the saga has been the redemption of Vader all along.
That's not true either.

I agree with you that Lucas is changing the larger story of SW constantly, but I will say that Lucas 'talked' about the 9 part saga back in the OT days, but he never had ANY specific story in mind other then rough ideas for other trilogies. That's where the whole '6 part Tragedy of Anakin Skywalker' is such BS, because Lucas did at one time talk about doing a sequel trilogy.

I do remember reading in the fall of 1983, this was the timetable:

1984-85 - Lucas takes 2 years off
1988 - Episode 7
1991 - Episode 8
1994 - Episode 9
1995-96 - Lucas takes 2 years off
1999 - Episode 1
2002 - Episode 2
2005 - Episode 3

He essentially wanted to do the sequel trilogy first about 10 years after Jedi, that way Ford, Fisher, and Hammil weren't too old. Then go back and do the prequel trilogy after that because that involved all new characters. I remember reading this as a 5th grader thinking there would be 6 more SW movies for the next 20 years, that was the coolest thing to hear at that time!

I can't tell you how pissed I was as an 8th grader in 1987 finding out that there was nothing new on the Star Wars front and no new movies were being made, and essentially Lucas said to mark the 10 year anniversary, "I am done with Star Wars."

Sadly, I wish this would have continued instead of Lucas making the Prequel Trilogy

[Terrell]

I've defended Lucas many times, but at this point I'm not sure he has a clue about this series any more. It's obvious much of the prequel trilogy was made up on the fly, even if the basic elements had already been written or planned out.

[Numanoid]

Star Wars is dead. Long live Star Trek!

[TallGuyMe]

Originally Posted by Numanoid

Star Wars is dead. Long live Star Trek!

just goes to show what a team of motivated and creative individuals can accomplish when they put their minds (and wallets) to it... Star Trek was deader than dogshit prior to JJ's relaunch...

they need to wrestle Star Wars away from Lucas' chubby fingers and give total creative control to someone who is more interested in telling a great story rather than just appeasing 11 year old retards by selling plastic lightsabers and Dooku bubblebath. funny how the most (arguably) successfully and well liked entries to both of these franchises came when people who really didn't know much about them got involved... ie: Irvin Kershner for Empire, Nicholas Meyer for Kahn, and now JJ.

[Hokeyboy]

I want some Dooku Bubblebath.

[dan30oly]

I hazza me some Jar Jar bubblesbath!!?

[calhoun07]

I really don't want to see any more movies as much as I'd like to see an anthology TV series. Preferably on HBO so you could get into a bit darker material for the series. And let some big name directors take a stab at directing an episode now and then. People like James Cameron, JJ Abrams, Tarantino, Darabont, Spielberg, etc. Perhaps mostly newer directors and throw some money at a few big directors to do episodes during sweeps weeks. Let them have some liberty...anything is game from the established canon of Star Wars. Let each season be about 13 episodes to ensure the quality remains strong on each episode. They could do new stories or film stories from anthologies from the past. Some episodes may be comprised of shorter works in a whole hour, maybe two or three stories in an hour, or perhaps some hour long episodes. Maybe a two parter now and then. Some episodes could be live action, some could be animated. Just depending on who is directing it. Leaving it open means you may be able to rope in some great talent in the animation field as well to take a stab at a few episode. They could adapt some of the best stories from the comics from time to time as well.

But who wouldn't pay good money to see that series? If you reported that somebody like Darabont or even somebody like Kevin Smith was going to direct an episode of a Star Wars anthology series, fans would clamor for it.

I actually think I'd rather see that than the Clone Wars cartoon or a TV series bridging the gap between episode three and four.

[calhoun07]

Originally Posted by TallGuyMe

just goes to show what a team of motivated and creative individuals can accomplish when they put their minds (and wallets) to it... Star Trek was deader than dogshit prior to JJ's relaunch...

they need to wrestle Star Wars away from Lucas' chubby fingers and give total creative control to someone who is more interested in telling a great story rather than just appeasing 11 year old retards by selling plastic lightsabers and Dooku bubblebath. funny how the most (arguably) successfully and well liked entries to both of these franchises came when people who really didn't know much about them got involved... ie: Irvin Kershner for Empire, Nicholas Meyer for Kahn, and now JJ.

If they were going to do something like that, I am all for a relaunch of episode one-three.

[calhoun07]

Originally Posted by Philzilla

Just because at one point in time Lucas said it to Starlog doesn't make it true either.
The most recent "Lucas says", claims the saga has been the redemption of Vader all along.
That's not true either.

read The Secret History of Star Wars by Michael Kaminski

So if Lucas said him self at one point he was working on doing nine movies, even if those words came from his own lips you would say that doesn't make it true either? Actually, I think that would pretty much seal the deal...he said it.

And if he said the saga had been about the redemption of Vader all along, he just simply changed his mind and refined his original ideas. He once said that the ONLY two characters that would be in all nine movies would be C-3P0 and R2-D2 and the movies were about them. The fact that he changed his plan doesn't mean it's not true. Obviously it's now about the redemption of Vader. I think one of Lucas' flaws is once he changes his mind about something he acts as if what he thought or threw out as an idea before he made up his mind no longer exists. But that doesn't mean it wasn't true.

[caligulathegod]

As far as I'm concerned, the Empire was defeated in Return of the Jedi. I don't care what kind of BS they came up with in the EU to extend the story, the story is done, and we don't need to have more adventures with Luke and Han. They lived happily ever after and Lucas doesn't need to ruin my memory and experience with these characters by bringing them back as aged shadows of their former selves.

That said, if they were to continue Star Wars, the one area that has potential of being interesting is the time between Episodes 3 and 4 where we see Vader hunting down the remaining Jedi. The Clone Wars has been done. I want to see how Vader actually achieved his reputation. And if it sucks, I can safely ignore it like I have the Clone Wars mark 2 series.

[calhoun07]

How could you defeat an entire empire that spans hundreds of worlds across the galaxy in the course of one battle that destroys one battle station and two of the leaders of the empire? Obviously Luke would have to restore the Jedi order and bring peace to the galaxy. Not sure that would make for compelling movie, but in the right hands it could.

[Groucho]

The time between 3 & 4 has been covered by a video game: The Force Unleashed.

[Osiris3657]

I'm not one of those begging for Episodes 7-9 to be made, but rather just a movie set in the Star Wars universe. If a good screenwriter adapted the "Knights of the Old Republic" games that would be amazing. The stories and characters for those games are incredible.

[caligulathegod]

Originally Posted by calhoun07

How could you defeat an entire empire that spans hundreds of worlds across the galaxy in the course of one battle that destroys one battle station and two of the leaders of the empire? Obviously Luke would have to restore the Jedi order and bring peace to the galaxy. Not sure that would make for compelling movie, but in the right hands it could.

Because they defeated the Emperor and Vader. Despite the bureaucracy, the power was centered in Palpatine. Watch Return of the Jedi again. They were definitely implying that the good guys won. Especially in the Special Editions that showed the entire galaxy celebrating. The Empire is defeated. The EU is little more then glorified Fan Fiction designed to stretch the story out and keep it going. None of it is Canon. Besides. 100s of worlds, my ass. Lucas did his best to shrink the universe to where the same 10 people and their relatives affected every event in the entire galaxy.

[chocoboy87]

I don't expect a new Star Wars movie (at least one we'd hope for anyway), but no doubt we will continue having to endure unnecessary editions and sequels in the form of Clone Wars and such, since the Star Wars brand is just too huge to be put to rest.

[riley_dude]

If a good writer, not Lucas, did them, well maybe, but I don't want to see anything more from Lucas himself.

[Tom Banjo]

The EU started out pretty good those first few years, but it has definitely devolved into a mess. Just from reading back covers in the bookstore there's some messed up stuff going on in the recent stuff.

Spoiler:

One of Han and Leia's kids becomes a Sith Lord, kills Luke's wife, etc

The EU has been done to death, and the ancient past has been done in video games and the comics.
I say the best bet for Star Wars is to let it rest a few years or even decades, and one day start over with all new stories and characters set a few hundred years after RotJ.

[milo bloom]

Originally Posted by caligulathegod

Because they defeated the Emperor and Vader. Despite the bureaucracy, the power was centered in Palpatine. Watch Return of the Jedi again. They were definitely implying that the good guys won. Especially in the Special Editions that showed the entire galaxy celebrating. The Empire is defeated. The EU is little more then glorified Fan Fiction designed to stretch the story out and keep it going. None of it is Canon. Besides. 100s of worlds, my ass. Lucas did his best to shrink the universe to where the same 10 people and their relatives affected every event in the entire galaxy.

If I could be bothered with it, I'd find that picture of Bush standing in front of that "Mission Accomplished" banner from around 2002-2003. Maybe I just wanted it to keep going, but I never had a problem with the remnants of the Empire fighting amongst themselves for a while, before finally rallying behind one strong Imperial Admiral or General and taking the fight back to the New Republic.

I'd love to see a 7-9 trilogy, even if Hamill is the only original to do it full time (with cameos from Ford and Fisher). I'd also love an animated Dark Empire or Thrawn Trilogy; they would have me opening my wallet so fast I'd get naugahyde burns on my fingers. Would also love animated versions of Splinter of the Mind's Eye and Shadow of the Empire too.

[Ranger]

Originally Posted by Tom Banjo

Just from reading back covers in the bookstore there's some messed up stuff going on in the recent stuff.

Spoiler:

One of Han and Leia's kids becomes a Sith Lord, kills Luke's wife, etc

Yeah, people liked the older books because they were more simple and fun like the OT. The EU is like what my experience has been with the prequels: really enjoyed some parts, but hated other parts. I still liked some parts of the NJO and LOTF.

I think FOTJ will turn out to be much better. I find the Sith and rise of the Empire stuff interesting. The Legacy comics are popular.

Since some mentioned the Thrawn trilogy, they may be interested in its upcoming re-release of the hardcover comics.

Even after all that, I still have no interest in the clone war media, maybe the live-action series will interest me.

[OutRun2]

Originally Posted by caligulathegod

As far as I'm concerned, the Empire was defeated in Return of the Jedi. I don't care what kind of BS they came up with in the EU to extend the story, the story is done, and we don't need to have more adventures with Luke and Han. They lived happily ever after and Lucas doesn't need to ruin my memory and experience with these characters by bringing them back as aged shadows of their former selves.

That said, if they were to continue Star Wars, the one area that has potential of being interesting is the time between Episodes 3 and 4 where we see Vader hunting down the remaining Jedi. The Clone Wars has been done. I want to see how Vader actually achieved his reputation. And if it sucks, I can safely ignore it like I have the Clone Wars mark 2 series.

Good post.

I have a question though....just what the heck is "EU" anyway?

[Mr. Salty]

Originally Posted by OutRun2

I have a question though....just what the heck is "EU" anyway?

Per this thing called Google: Expanded Universe. In other words, shit that happened in books, etc., not the movies.

[caligulathegod]

Originally Posted by milo bloom

If I could be bothered with it, I'd find that picture of Bush standing in front of that "Mission Accomplished" banner from around 2002-2003. Maybe I just wanted it to keep going, but I never had a problem with the remnants of the Empire fighting amongst themselves for a while, before finally rallying behind one strong Imperial Admiral or General and taking the fight back to the New Republic.

I'd love to see a 7-9 trilogy, even if Hamill is the only original to do it full time (with cameos from Ford and Fisher). I'd also love an animated Dark Empire or Thrawn Trilogy; they would have me opening my wallet so fast I'd get naugahyde burns on my fingers. Would also love animated versions of Splinter of the Mind's Eye and Shadow of the Empire too.

After WWII, there were a few skirmishes here and there, but for all intents and purposes, the war ended on V-E day and V-J day. You are letting the EU cash cow influence your thinking. They had to continue the stories somehow to keep the money flowing.

We've had 10 years of proof that the original trilogy caught lightning in a bottle. As bad as the prequel trilogy was and the Clone Wars is, why would anyone think that somehow they could make a sequel trilogy with old has-been actors (as much as I love Hamill, Fisher, and Ford they haven't held up well) and Lucas's new concept of making CGI puppet movies instead of actually having actors act with each other and it would be any good? Even the idea of having other people do them doesn't sound interesting. Lucas has very little involvement in the new series, and it is terrible. The books and cartoons are there for the fan who can't get enough. Movies, however, become part of the general popular culture and Lucas has already poisoned that well.

[Artman]

I have to wonder if SW could pull off something like the new Star Trek...have Hamill be the remaining link to the original films (like Spock in Trek). Might be cool... just have it set like 40 yrs after Jedi...which at this point, it very well may be in real life...lol.