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Old 07-23-09, 10:25 PM   #1
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Lionsgate greenlights Saw VII for 2010

Noone should be shocked by this news:

http://www.variety.com/article/VR111...goryid=13&cs=1

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It turns out there's plenty of life left in "Saw" and Jigsaw John.
With "Saw VI" due to open in the usual October slot, Lionsgate has greenlit "Saw VII" with a January start of production. David Hackl -- production designer of the second, third and fourth films and helmer of "Saw V" -- has been tapped to direct.

Mark Burg and Oren Koules, who have produced all six of the "Saw" pics, are back as producers. And scribes Marcus Dunstan and Patrick Melton, who penned the fourth, fifth and sixth films, are writing the seventh.

Lionsgate has worldwide rights in North America and the United Kingdom. The five "Saw" pics to date have grossed more than $700 million worldwide.

Dunstan and Melton, who broke into Hollywood via Project Greenlight, also wrote home-invasion thriller "The Collector," which opens next weekend through Freestyle Releasing. That pic also marks Dunstan's helming debut.
I'm surprised that they re-hired Hackl to direct even though he didn't direct VI. I wish they would have hired some different writers instead of Dunstan and Melton.

I am surprised that they announced it so early.
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Old 07-23-09, 10:28 PM   #2
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Re: Lionsgate greenlights Saw VII for 2010

Wasn't Bell signed on up to VII anyway?

I'm really disappointed that Dunstan and Melton are getting a fourth shot with this franchise despite IV and V being the weakest entries up to this point.

Hackl was supposed to direct VI, but had to back out due to family situations.
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Old 07-23-09, 10:36 PM   #3
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Re: Lionsgate greenlights Saw VII for 2010

V was the lowest grossing movie of the entire franchise in the U.S., but still made over 113M with worldwide box office.

If VI makes between $50-60M in the U.S., I think Lionsgate will be extremely pleased, especially since the budget for all 6 films has never exceeded $10M.
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Old 07-23-09, 10:51 PM   #4
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Re: Lionsgate greenlights Saw VII for 2010

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V was the lowest grossing movie of the entire franchise in the U.S., but still made over 113M with worldwide box office.

If VI makes between $50-60M in the U.S., I think Lionsgate will be extremely pleased, especially since the budget for all 6 films has never exceeded $10M.
Actually, Saw V still made more than the first. Not that much, barely a million dollars, but the first is still the lowest grossing entry. Saw II still ranks the highest domestically whereas Saw III ranks the highest with worldwide gross.

While I do believe quite a few bailed out of the franchise after Saw III; I know a lot of people who pretty much called it quits after Saw IV. I've seen every one at midnight since Saw II and Saw IV, by far, is the worst entry of the entire franchise. It didn't provide the fun the first three films had and was just slow, tedious, boring, and it was the first to start to stretch a premise that could be done in one film across three.

Saw V was slightly better, but still not anywhere near the quality of the first three. I'll be there for Saw VI, but expectations are very low after the past two efforts. I'm not expecting much and the red band clip that was just released for Saw VI didn't do much for me.

I'd still argue that Saw II is the best, but I know most would disagree.

Lionsgate will continue to pump these out until they start to gross under $25-30 million domestically.
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Old 07-23-09, 11:04 PM   #5
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Re: Lionsgate greenlights Saw VII for 2010

Guess this means Xage will have more Saw DVD's to add to his collection.
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Old 07-23-09, 11:11 PM   #6
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Re: Lionsgate greenlights Saw VII for 2010

I really wish they would stop after VI and end the story as is, but props to Lionsgate. I would also milk the franchise until the franchise stops being profitable.

Even if the films themselves stop to pull a profit theatrically, Lionsgate would be stupid not to continue the franchise and send it direct-to-video. The conversion from film to HD would save them millions instantly.
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Old 07-24-09, 10:22 AM   #7
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Re: Lionsgate greenlights Saw VII for 2010

i thought 6 was the end =( i was pumped for the finale...
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Old 07-24-09, 10:32 AM   #8
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Re: Lionsgate greenlights Saw VII for 2010

Yeah, I was kind of hoping they would tie up the story with part 6. Oh well, even though the quality has declined i'm fine with seeing more of these as long as the story makes sense and they start finding some resolutions to the characters.
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Old 07-24-09, 10:51 AM   #9
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Re: Lionsgate greenlights Saw VII for 2010

Isn't this franchise losing money as it goes on and on?
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Old 07-24-09, 11:57 AM   #10
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Re: Lionsgate greenlights Saw VII for 2010

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Isn't this franchise losing money as it goes on and on?
When your production budget isn't over $10 mil, and your films earn at least $50 mil, and the dvds sell over a million copies, HOW could you be losing money?
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Old 07-24-09, 12:02 PM   #11
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Isn't this franchise losing money as it goes on and on?
Naw, really low budget movies that pull in more than they should.

It will continue Straight-to-video years after they stop making theatrical movies.
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Old 07-24-09, 12:08 PM   #12
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Re: Lionsgate greenlights Saw VII for 2010

Even if the budget for Saw VI is $15 million, it'll still make more than that in its opened weekend. And even if it barely doubles the opening, combine that with the worldwide gross and you still have a big hit.

I do believe that Saw VII will be the one to push it too far, though. I wouldn't be surprised if it costs $25 million, opens with barely $20 million, and doesn't even manage to double that #.
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Old 07-24-09, 01:10 PM   #13
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Re: Lionsgate greenlights Saw VII for 2010

They are not going to spend $25M to produce Saw VII. That would be very stupid business by the producers and Lionsgate. Haven't you noticed that they never cast any big name stars in these films. Mostly B and C List actors. I mean Julie Benz from Dexter was probably the most well known actor in the last film other than Tobin Bell. Also the films are shot inexpensively in Canada.
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Old 07-24-09, 01:45 PM   #14
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Yeah, I don't think there's any reason that Lionsgate would double the budget on these movies unless they were certain they would get that sort of return back.
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Old 07-24-09, 01:58 PM   #15
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Re: Lionsgate greenlights Saw VII for 2010

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i thought 6 was the end =( i was pumped for the finale...
The finale happened at the end of Saw III and it was awesome. Series should have ended there.

I'm sure I'll still see a Saw 7, 12, 16... whatever. They're entertaining, if nothing else. I do wish they didn't bring back the same writers, though. They really suck.
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Old 07-24-09, 02:14 PM   #16
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Re: Lionsgate greenlights Saw VII for 2010

I'm still in for the Blu-ray.
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Old 07-24-09, 02:24 PM   #17
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Re: Lionsgate greenlights Saw VII for 2010

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Old 07-24-09, 03:50 PM   #18
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Re: Lionsgate greenlights Saw VII for 2010

I'm not surprised by this.
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Old 07-24-09, 08:24 PM   #19
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Re: Lionsgate greenlights Saw VII for 2010

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I'd still argue that Saw II is the best, but I know most would disagree.
I would agree with you. II is still my favorite.

This is kind of dissapointing. The last couple of movies have dragged and I hoped VI would tie up all the looses ends.

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Old 07-25-09, 12:35 AM   #20
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Re: Lionsgate greenlights Saw VII for 2010

In a recent article on BD I remember Tobin saying that they were at least going to 8 Saw films and wouldn't count out a 9th installment. Announcing that number 7 has been greenlit is no surprise.
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Old 07-25-09, 07:37 AM   #21
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Yeah, I don't think there's any reason that Lionsgate would double the budget on these movies unless they were certain they would get that sort of return back.
Try to keep in mind the budget for the Saw movies have doubled twice. The original cost over $1 million, the second cost $4 million, the third cost $10 million, the fourth cost over $10 million, and the fifth cost about $11 million.

So maybe the franchise won't go up to $25 million, but at a certain point, the studio is going to try to think of something novel to kick-start attendance, like Jason Takes Manhattan or Freddy's Dead, and when they do, it's going to cost a little more money. By the time they get to that, it might be a $17 million budget against a $30 million domestic gross.
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Old 07-25-09, 08:08 AM   #22
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Re: Lionsgate greenlights Saw VII for 2010

I would be shocked if Saw ended with less than fifteen movies after all is said and done.
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Old 07-25-09, 09:53 AM   #23
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I say bring 'em on
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Old 07-25-09, 10:27 AM   #24
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Re: Lionsgate greenlights Saw VII for 2010

Man, I really got to get on it; I've only seen the first 3 movies.

I've been falling behind, hell I though they were only on Saw V now.
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Old 07-25-09, 10:32 AM   #25
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Re: Lionsgate greenlights Saw VII for 2010

Saw 3 is my favorite, still haven't seen 5 but will. I say keep it going. We haven't had a franchise like this in a while.
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