Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (Bay, 2009) — The Reviews Thread - Page 3

thecrackedjack2 · 06-22-09, 03:40 PM

Man, are any of these summer movies going to live up to expectations? Last year we had Hulk, Iron Man, Dark Knight, etc hitting the mark and now all these seem to to missing it. Disappointing indeed.

Still, look forward to seeing it though.

Solid Snake PAC · 06-22-09, 04:05 PM

There's always Inglourious Basterds, no?

jeffbase34 · 06-22-09, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by thecrackedjack2

Man, are any of these summer movies going to live up to expectations? Last year we had Hulk, Iron Man, Dark Knight, etc hitting the mark and now all these seem to to missing it. Disappointing indeed.

Still, look forward to seeing it though.

I even enjoyed Hancock last year, but this summer, after Star Trek, just nothing. Year 1 is more like January Feb movie, not a tentpole summer flick! Where are the big special effects movies this summer?? Marvel really dropped the ball this year.

Artman · 06-22-09, 09:22 PM

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....I walked out after 10 minutes.

I didn't see it in theaters but watched the first ten min or so... loved it! I hope the rest of it is like that...

Dr Mabuse · 06-22-09, 09:31 PM

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spizz · 06-23-09, 01:14 AM

Just saw it and was Dissapointed. Not crap but an average sequel. After loving the 1st one I was so looking forward to this.

Micheal Bay sometimes less is more. Just to much thrown in on this one. Didn't care about the human characters at all. John Tutturo (sp?) was one of the only bright spots. And with the action it was hard to keep track of who was who with the shaky cam and close ups, especially since most of the robots weren't properly introduced. The 1st one also had a better story to. Oh well, it is what it is.

Lara Means · 06-23-09, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by thecrackedjack2

Man, are any of these summer movies going to live up to expectations? Last year we had Hulk, Iron Man, Dark Knight, etc hitting the mark and now all these seem to to missing it.

The Incredible Hulk was pure garbage.

thecrackedjack2 · 06-23-09, 05:36 AM

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The Incredible Hulk was pure garbage.

I and RT (A respectable 66%, not bad for a summer popcorn flick) would disagree. But, that's the wonderful thing about opinions.

outcastja · 06-23-09, 09:46 AM

Ebert's one star review

http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/...IEWS/906239997

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"Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen" is a horrible experience of unbearable length, briefly punctuated by three or four amusing moments. One of these involves a dog-like robot humping the leg of the heroine. Such are the meager joys. If you want to save yourself the ticket price, go into the kitchen, cue up a male choir singing the music of hell, and get a kid to start banging pots and pans together. Then close your eyes and use your imagination.

Zen Peckinpah · 06-23-09, 10:05 AM

A couple of review blurbs on RT that had me

"A 150-minute simulation of life in a garbage disposal." Matt Pais, Metromix.com

"It’s like being hit over the head repeatedly with a very expensive, very loud train set. After two and a half hours in this bludgeoning company, you’re begging Bay to put away the boys’ toys and make a rom-com." Ed Potton, The Times

Anubis2005X · 06-23-09, 10:23 AM

I don't always agree with Roger Ebert, but I enjoyed that review...

hapgilmore · 06-23-09, 11:09 AM

Can anyone confirm if this is "old school" Michael Bay (i.e. Armageddon, Bad Boys 2: nonstop quick cuts and frenetic editing), or "new school" (i.e. The Island, Transformers 1: kinda like old Bay but the cuts aren't as fast and the editing a little slower)?

I prefer old school!

iggystar · 06-23-09, 11:39 AM

Ain't It Cool is the perfect review. I agree with each and every word.

I like popcorn flicks, with expolsions, heck I've been known to enjoy a Michael Bay film or two, but my main gripe, just like my complaint about the first is the Transformer design. You can hardly tell what's happening with all of the bits of whirring metal, it just looks like large pieces of scrap rolling on top of each other. At least give me that a cleaner design...so I can enjoy the fight scenes, so I can see the individual strengths of each.

I saw this movie free, from a press pass and it was just explosions, metal and nothing else. I could have cared less if each and every character died, I don't know if I've ever been so emotionally disconnected from a movie. There were several Jar-Jar annoying characters and it seemed like the dialogue was written for, who? I don't know. There were so many sexual references that just weren't funny. I could forgive them if they made me laugh, but I didn't, not once.

Basically, there's NO way I'm going to take my daughter to see this, I don't care how much she loves Shia, I will not sit through it again.

Draven · 06-23-09, 11:48 AM

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Ain't It Cool is the perfect review. I agree with each and every word.

I like popcorn flicks, with expolsions, heck I've been known to enjoy a Michael Bay film or two, but my main gripe, just like my complaint about the first is the Transformer design. You can hardly tell what's happening with all of the bits of whirring metal, it just looks like large pieces of scrap rolling on top of each other. At least give me that a cleaner design...so I can enjoy the fight scenes, so I can see the individual strengths of each.

That's big one of my biggest problems with the series. The Transformers already HAVE relatively clean designs. They just need to update them to look a little more realistic and I think it would have been great. Instead it literally looks like they blew up each car, assembled the pieces to look vaguely humanoid and then created the designs from that.

Very disappointing.

iggystar · 06-23-09, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Draven

The Transformers already HAVE relatively clean designs. They just need to update them to look a little more realistic and I think it would have been great. Instead it literally looks like they blew up each car, assembled the pieces to look vaguely humanoid and then created the designs from that.

Very disappointing.

Yes, I totally agree! The design is completely overdone and cluttered. You could always tell the different Transformers apart in the series, you could see that one started out as a truck and once transformed you could still see truck-like attributes. Now they all look like scrap metal heaps.

My friend went to the bathroom and came back and was like, "Um, what Transformer is that?" I'd been sitting there and couldn't tell her. What a mess.

scott1598 · 06-23-09, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by spizz

John Turturro (sp?) was one of the only bright spots.

really? i thought he was one of the negatives from the first. was he better or more toned-down than the previous?

woofman · 06-23-09, 03:42 PM

I saw this last night and I found it to be quite an entertaining summer action flick. Yes it did have some faults as mentioned in previous posts, and a scene or two where they really laid on the cheese, but I didn't go into it expecting Silence of the Lambs. The audience really got into it, cheering and clapping several times throughout the movie, and even more so at the end. Special effects and sets were larger than life and completely over the top, I had to just laugh and enjoy it for what it was.

Superboy · 06-23-09, 05:16 PM

I thought this was a reviews thread.

I thought it had many of the same problems as the first movie, but also addressed many of the problems of the first movie.

The movie flows better.

There's less plot holes. Although they're still there... who cares.

Still...

Spoiler:

RocShemp · 06-23-09, 05:26 PM

A much better question is

Spoiler:

Superboy · 06-23-09, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by RocShemp

A much better question is

Spoiler:

Even better...

Spoiler:

RocShemp · 06-23-09, 05:56 PM

Actually that one I explained elsewhere.

Spoiler:

slop101 · 06-23-09, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by iggystar

I saw this movie free, from a press pass and it was just explosions, metal and nothing else. I could have cared less if each and every character died, I don't know if I've ever been so emotionally disconnected from a movie. n.

So you cared about the characters?

RocShemp · 06-23-09, 06:38 PM

Have we already forgotten the graph?

The O · 06-23-09, 06:52 PM

Say no to Decepticon balls.

BJacks · 06-23-09, 06:56 PM

This was one of the worst films I've seen this decade. A boring, bloated mess. And I'm the most un-PC guy on the planet but even I was shocked by the blatant racism. Gold teeth-adorned, streettalk-slinging, ape-looking, weed-smoking illiterate robots? Jesus.

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06-22-09, 03:40 PM	#51
thecrackedjack2 Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 192	Re: Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (Bay, 2009) — The Reviews Thread Man, are any of these summer movies going to live up to expectations? Last year we had Hulk, Iron Man, Dark Knight, etc hitting the mark and now all these seem to to missing it. Disappointing indeed. Still, look forward to seeing it though.

06-22-09, 04:05 PM	#52
Solid Snake PAC DVD Talk Platinum Edition Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Denton, Tx Posts: 3,204	Re: Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (Bay, 2009) — The Reviews Thread There's always Inglourious Basterds, no?

06-23-09, 01:14 AM	#56
spizz Senior Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Posts: 811	Re: Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (Bay, 2009) — The Reviews Thread Just saw it and was Dissapointed. Not crap but an average sequel. After loving the 1st one I was so looking forward to this. Micheal Bay sometimes less is more. Just to much thrown in on this one. Didn't care about the human characters at all. John Tutturo (sp?) was one of the only bright spots. And with the action it was hard to keep track of who was who with the shaky cam and close ups, especially since most of the robots weren't properly introduced. The 1st one also had a better story to. Oh well, it is what it is. __________________ Spero D. My Home Theater Page- http://users.chariot.net.au/~spizz/

06-23-09, 10:05 AM	#60
Zen Peckinpah DVD Talk Gold Edition Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,683	Re: Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (Bay, 2009) — The Reviews Thread A couple of review blurbs on RT that had me "A 150-minute simulation of life in a garbage disposal." Matt Pais, Metromix.com "It’s like being hit over the head repeatedly with a very expensive, very loud train set. After two and a half hours in this bludgeoning company, you’re begging Bay to put away the boys’ toys and make a rom-com." Ed Potton, The Times __________________ "The next time the motherfucker call, tell him I said suck my dick. I don't give a fuck, whatever the fuck make the people laugh, say that shit. Do the people laugh when you say what you say? I said, 'Yes.' He said, 'do you get paid?' I said, 'Yes.' He said well tell Bill I said have a Coke and a smile and shut the fuck up! The Jello puddin'-eating motherfucker!"

06-23-09, 10:23 AM	#61
Anubis2005X DVD Talk Gold Edition Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,507	Re: Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (Bay, 2009) — The Reviews Thread I don't always agree with Roger Ebert, but I enjoyed that review...

06-23-09, 11:09 AM	#62
hapgilmore Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 816	Re: Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (Bay, 2009) — The Reviews Thread Can anyone confirm if this is "old school" Michael Bay (i.e. Armageddon, Bad Boys 2: nonstop quick cuts and frenetic editing), or "new school" (i.e. The Island, Transformers 1: kinda like old Bay but the cuts aren't as fast and the editing a little slower)? I prefer old school!

06-23-09, 11:39 AM	#63
iggystar DVD Talk Gold Edition Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: detroit, MI, USA Posts: 2,836	Re: Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (Bay, 2009) — The Reviews Thread Ain't It Cool is the perfect review. I agree with each and every word. I like popcorn flicks, with expolsions, heck I've been known to enjoy a Michael Bay film or two, but my main gripe, just like my complaint about the first is the Transformer design. You can hardly tell what's happening with all of the bits of whirring metal, it just looks like large pieces of scrap rolling on top of each other. At least give me that a cleaner design...so I can enjoy the fight scenes, so I can see the individual strengths of each. I saw this movie free, from a press pass and it was just explosions, metal and nothing else. I could have cared less if each and every character died, I don't know if I've ever been so emotionally disconnected from a movie. There were several Jar-Jar annoying characters and it seemed like the dialogue was written for, who? I don't know. There were so many sexual references that just weren't funny. I could forgive them if they made me laugh, but I didn't, not once. Basically, there's NO way I'm going to take my daughter to see this, I don't care how much she loves Shia, I will not sit through it again. __________________ Verily, this vichyssoise of verbiage veers most verbose vis-à-vis an introduction, and so it is my very good honor to meet you and you may call me V."

06-23-09, 03:42 PM	#67
woofman DVD Talk Platinum Edition Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 3,355	Re: Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (Bay, 2009) — The Reviews Thread I saw this last night and I found it to be quite an entertaining summer action flick. Yes it did have some faults as mentioned in previous posts, and a scene or two where they really laid on the cheese, but I didn't go into it expecting Silence of the Lambs. The audience really got into it, cheering and clapping several times throughout the movie, and even more so at the end. Special effects and sets were larger than life and completely over the top, I had to just laugh and enjoy it for what it was. __________________ Yes it will precious, it will get the hose!

06-23-09, 05:16 PM	#68
Superboy DVD Talk Platinum Edition Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: So Cal Posts: 3,573	Re: Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (Bay, 2009) — The Reviews Thread I thought this was a reviews thread. I thought it had many of the same problems as the first movie, but also addressed many of the problems of the first movie. The movie flows better. There's less plot holes. Although they're still there... who cares. Still... Spoiler: The whole point of the transformers is that they're robots in disguise, and despite this, the autobots and decepticons can detect each other. So why doesn't bumblebee just blow the hell out of that pretender the first time he sees it, instead of just playing Superfreak? Meteors constantly colliding with the planet is sure to draw the attention of the autobots and the humans. Why not just hold megatron in another facility like they did in the first movie? why at the bottom of the ocean? __________________ "We would have injected vitamin C if only they had made it illegal" - Renton, Trainspotting Last edited by Superboy; 06-23-09 at 05:20 PM.

06-23-09, 05:26 PM	#69
RocShemp DVD Talk Hall of Fame Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 7,816	Re: Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (Bay, 2009) — The Reviews Thread A much better question is Spoiler: why didn't they just melt Megatron down to a molten pile? After the first movie, they knew how hot you needed to get them to damage them. __________________ So there's simultaneously a super secret team of giant robots and a super secret team of technologically enhanced super soldiers, and neither team knows about the other? The governments in these movies must be far more effective than our actual government. Well, damn it, I want some realism and mature adult themes in my giant robot and super soldier movies! - Suprmallet

06-23-09, 05:56 PM	#71
RocShemp DVD Talk Hall of Fame Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 7,816	Re: Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (Bay, 2009) — The Reviews Thread Actually that one I explained elsewhere. Spoiler: Ratchet said "the Cube is raw power. It COULD destroy you both." The outcome of Prime merging with the Allspark was unknown. Sam just lucked out that it made Megatron shut down instead of instantly turning him in an uber-Transformer. __________________ So there's simultaneously a super secret team of giant robots and a super secret team of technologically enhanced super soldiers, and neither team knows about the other? The governments in these movies must be far more effective than our actual government. Well, damn it, I want some realism and mature adult themes in my giant robot and super soldier movies! - Suprmallet

06-23-09, 06:38 PM	#73
RocShemp DVD Talk Hall of Fame Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 7,816	Re: Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (Bay, 2009) — The Reviews Thread Have we already forgotten the graph? __________________ So there's simultaneously a super secret team of giant robots and a super secret team of technologically enhanced super soldiers, and neither team knows about the other? The governments in these movies must be far more effective than our actual government. Well, damn it, I want some realism and mature adult themes in my giant robot and super soldier movies! - Suprmallet

06-23-09, 06:52 PM	#74
The O DVD Talk Reviewer Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: East Coast Posts: 154	Re: Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (Bay, 2009) — The Reviews Thread Say no to Decepticon balls. __________________ Twitter

06-23-09, 06:56 PM	#75
BJacks DVD Talk Platinum Edition Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: NYC Posts: 3,884	Re: Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (Bay, 2009) — The Reviews Thread This was one of the worst films I've seen this decade. A boring, bloated mess. And I'm the most un-PC guy on the planet but even I was shocked by the blatant racism. Gold teeth-adorned, streettalk-slinging, ape-looking, weed-smoking illiterate robots? Jesus. Last edited by BJacks; 06-23-09 at 06:58 PM.