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Can't wait...is there a release date set?
lol...didn't even see the post count. I swear I didn't do that on purpose. Hold on, let me check for horns....nope, just a tail.
lol...didn't even see the post count. I swear I didn't do that on purpose. Hold on, let me check for horns....nope, just a tail.
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Looks good. Coincidentally, I just stumbled on this last night, while looking to see what Dafoe is up to (I was watching him in Wild At Heart). Lars Von Trier doesn't disappoint much. The Kindom was a good mix of strange and horror.
And dino88 - thanks for showing up. Jesus should be here soon. Till then, maybe apply for a position at Fox.
And dino88 - thanks for showing up. Jesus should be here soon. Till then, maybe apply for a position at Fox.
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This movie sounds very disturbing and messed up:
http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/05/17/...st/#more-28429
Roger Ebert: "This is the most despairing film I’ve ever have seen.”"
I cant wait!
http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/05/17/...st/#more-28429
Roger Ebert: "This is the most despairing film I’ve ever have seen.”"
I cant wait!
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From the first danish review:
"This is supposed to be a review of Lars von Triers new movie 'Antichrist'. I'm sorry but that's not possible. You can't review this movie. It makes no sense to ask the question 'is this a good movie or not'. This movie is so far beyond that kind of thinking. You're not supposed to be able to ask that question about 'Antichrist'."
Throughout the review he sounds absolutely blown away.
Apparently it's very fucked up.
Personally I can't wait
"This is supposed to be a review of Lars von Triers new movie 'Antichrist'. I'm sorry but that's not possible. You can't review this movie. It makes no sense to ask the question 'is this a good movie or not'. This movie is so far beyond that kind of thinking. You're not supposed to be able to ask that question about 'Antichrist'."
Throughout the review he sounds absolutely blown away.
Apparently it's very fucked up.
Jeff Welles, Hollywood Elsewhere: There's no way Antichrist isn't a
major career embarassment for costars Willem Dafoe and Charlotte Gainsbourgh, and a possible career stopper for Von Trier.
It's an out-and-out disaster -- one of the most absurdly heavy-handed and over-the-top
calamities I've ever seen in my life. On top of which it's dedicated to the late Russian
director Andrei Tarkovsky, whose rotted and decomposed body is now
quite possibly clawing its way out of the grave to stalk the earth, find an axe and slay Von Trier in his bed.
IFC's David Hudson: The first five minutes of Lars von Trier's 'Antichrist' contain both a scene of eye-opening sexual explicitness and an act of tragic misadventure so extreme that it begs a new word to describe over-the-top: Baroquecoco.
Roger Ebert: Whether this is a bad, good or great film is entirely beside the point. It is an audacious spit in the eye of society.
EW says: So it's one good-looking, publicity-grabbing provocation.
Charles Ealy, austin360.com: Since you’re emotionally invested in the characters, the violence that comes later is all the more shocking. It makes scenes from “Hostel,” one of the so-called gore porn movies, seem tame.
It would be a disservice to describe the violence, which would qualify for the one of the hardest NC-17 ratings ever..
major career embarassment for costars Willem Dafoe and Charlotte Gainsbourgh, and a possible career stopper for Von Trier.
It's an out-and-out disaster -- one of the most absurdly heavy-handed and over-the-top
calamities I've ever seen in my life. On top of which it's dedicated to the late Russian
director Andrei Tarkovsky, whose rotted and decomposed body is now
quite possibly clawing its way out of the grave to stalk the earth, find an axe and slay Von Trier in his bed.
IFC's David Hudson: The first five minutes of Lars von Trier's 'Antichrist' contain both a scene of eye-opening sexual explicitness and an act of tragic misadventure so extreme that it begs a new word to describe over-the-top: Baroquecoco.
Roger Ebert: Whether this is a bad, good or great film is entirely beside the point. It is an audacious spit in the eye of society.
EW says: So it's one good-looking, publicity-grabbing provocation.
Charles Ealy, austin360.com: Since you’re emotionally invested in the characters, the violence that comes later is all the more shocking. It makes scenes from “Hostel,” one of the so-called gore porn movies, seem tame.
It would be a disservice to describe the violence, which would qualify for the one of the hardest NC-17 ratings ever..
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From Reuters:
Lars von Trier film "Antichrist" shocks Cannes
CANNES, France (Reuters) - Danish director Lars von Trier elicited derisive laughter, gasps of disbelief, a smattering of applause and loud boos on Sunday as the credits rolled on his drama "Antichrist" at the Cannes film festival.
The film, starring Willem Dafoe and Charlotte Gainsbourg as a couple seeking to overcome the grief of losing their only child, has quickly become the most talked-about at this year's festival, which ends on May 24.
Cannes' notoriously picky critics and press often react audibly to films during screenings, but Sunday evening's viewing was unusually demonstrative.
Jeers and laughter broke out during scenes ranging from a talking fox to graphically-portrayed sexual mutilation.
Many viewers in the large Debussy cinema also appeared to take objection to von Trier's decision to dedicate his film to the revered Soviet director Andrei Tarkovsky. Applause from a handful of viewers was drowned out by booing at the end.
Antichrist opens with a heavily stylized, black-and-white, slow-motion portrayal of the child's accidental death set to soaring music by Handel.
Dafoe's character, who is a therapist, tries to help his wife deal with her grief and encourages her to come off heavy medication that sedates her for weeks after the death.
They decide to go to an isolated wooden cabin in an unspecified forest to recover, but the woman Gainsbourg portrays loses control of her senses.
The abuse she submits herself and her husband to drew shocked gasps from the audience.
The reaction suggested that von Trier, who won the top prize in Cannes with "Dancer in the Dark" in 2000, could be in for a rough ride from reviewers and journalists on Monday.
One U.S. critic said he and others found the film "offensive," and questioned why it was included in the main competition of 20 films in Cannes.
In production notes for Antichrist, the 53-year-old director said that the movie was a "kind of therapy" for depression he was suffering from two years ago.
"I can offer no excuse for 'Antichrist' ... other than my absolute belief in the film -- the most important film of my entire career!"
Originally Posted by Mike Collett-White
Lars von Trier film "Antichrist" shocks Cannes
CANNES, France (Reuters) - Danish director Lars von Trier elicited derisive laughter, gasps of disbelief, a smattering of applause and loud boos on Sunday as the credits rolled on his drama "Antichrist" at the Cannes film festival.
The film, starring Willem Dafoe and Charlotte Gainsbourg as a couple seeking to overcome the grief of losing their only child, has quickly become the most talked-about at this year's festival, which ends on May 24.
Cannes' notoriously picky critics and press often react audibly to films during screenings, but Sunday evening's viewing was unusually demonstrative.
Jeers and laughter broke out during scenes ranging from a talking fox to graphically-portrayed sexual mutilation.
Many viewers in the large Debussy cinema also appeared to take objection to von Trier's decision to dedicate his film to the revered Soviet director Andrei Tarkovsky. Applause from a handful of viewers was drowned out by booing at the end.
Antichrist opens with a heavily stylized, black-and-white, slow-motion portrayal of the child's accidental death set to soaring music by Handel.
Dafoe's character, who is a therapist, tries to help his wife deal with her grief and encourages her to come off heavy medication that sedates her for weeks after the death.
They decide to go to an isolated wooden cabin in an unspecified forest to recover, but the woman Gainsbourg portrays loses control of her senses.
The abuse she submits herself and her husband to drew shocked gasps from the audience.
The reaction suggested that von Trier, who won the top prize in Cannes with "Dancer in the Dark" in 2000, could be in for a rough ride from reviewers and journalists on Monday.
One U.S. critic said he and others found the film "offensive," and questioned why it was included in the main competition of 20 films in Cannes.
In production notes for Antichrist, the 53-year-old director said that the movie was a "kind of therapy" for depression he was suffering from two years ago.
"I can offer no excuse for 'Antichrist' ... other than my absolute belief in the film -- the most important film of my entire career!"
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From Roger Ebert's Journal:
There's electricity in the air. Every seat is filled, even the little fold-down seats at the end of every row. It is the first screening of Lars von Trier's "Antichrist," and we are ready for anything. We'd better be. Von Trier's film goes beyond malevolence into the monstrous. Never before have a man and woman inflicted more pain upon each other in a movie. We looked in disbelief. There were piteous groans. Sometimes a voice would cry out, "No!" At certain moments there was nervous laughter. When it was all over, we staggered up the aisles. Manohla Dargis, the merry film critic of The New York Times, could be heard singing "That's Entertainment!"
Whether this is a bad, good or great film is entirely beside the point. It is an audacious spit in the eye of society. It says we harbor an undreamed-of capacity for evil. It transforms a psychological treatment into torture undreamed of in the dungeons of history. Torturers might have been capable of such actions, but they would have lacked the imagination. Von Trier is not so much making a film about violence as making a film to inflict violence upon us, perhaps as a salutary experience. It's been reported that he suffered from depression during and after the film. You can tell. This is the most despairing film I've ever have seen.
If, as they say, you are not prepared for "disturbing images," I advise you to just just stop reading now.
The film involves a couple, He and She, whose infant child falls out a window and smashes to the pavement while they are making explicit love. They feel devastating grief. He, a psychologist, takes She off medications, and they go to live in their secluded hideaway in the forest, a cottage named Eden.
He subjects her to probing questions and the discussion of the Meaning of it All, which must affect her like a needle stab to an inflamed tooth. He is quite intelligent and insightful, and brings passive aggression to a brutally intimate level. Then she wounds him, and while he's unconscious she drills a hole through his leg and bolts a grindstone to it. He drags himself into the forest and tries to hide in an animal burrow. She finds him, and pounds him with a shovel to force him deeper. Then she tries to bury him alive. I won't mention two gruesome scenes involving the genital areas.
What does this metaphor (with a Prologue, an Epilogue and Four Chapters) mean? The dinner conversations all over town must not have been appetizing. Some read it this way: Perhaps the world began with man evil instead of good, guilty instead of innocent. That the Garden of Eden was visited by the Antichrist, not the Lord. That man's Original Sin was not eating from the Tree of Knowledge, but not vomiting forth knowledge and purging himself.
All for this will be discussed at great length. What can be said is that von Trier, after what many found the agonizing boredom of his previous Cannes films "Dogville" and "Manderlay," has made a film that is not boring. Unendurable, perhaps, but not boring. For relief I am looking forward to the overnight reviews of those who think they can explain exactly what it means. In this case, perhaps, a film should not mean, but be.
My favorite line is: "Sometimes a voice would cry out, 'No!'" That just makes me giggle.
Originally Posted by Roger Ebert
There's electricity in the air. Every seat is filled, even the little fold-down seats at the end of every row. It is the first screening of Lars von Trier's "Antichrist," and we are ready for anything. We'd better be. Von Trier's film goes beyond malevolence into the monstrous. Never before have a man and woman inflicted more pain upon each other in a movie. We looked in disbelief. There were piteous groans. Sometimes a voice would cry out, "No!" At certain moments there was nervous laughter. When it was all over, we staggered up the aisles. Manohla Dargis, the merry film critic of The New York Times, could be heard singing "That's Entertainment!"
Whether this is a bad, good or great film is entirely beside the point. It is an audacious spit in the eye of society. It says we harbor an undreamed-of capacity for evil. It transforms a psychological treatment into torture undreamed of in the dungeons of history. Torturers might have been capable of such actions, but they would have lacked the imagination. Von Trier is not so much making a film about violence as making a film to inflict violence upon us, perhaps as a salutary experience. It's been reported that he suffered from depression during and after the film. You can tell. This is the most despairing film I've ever have seen.
If, as they say, you are not prepared for "disturbing images," I advise you to just just stop reading now.
The film involves a couple, He and She, whose infant child falls out a window and smashes to the pavement while they are making explicit love. They feel devastating grief. He, a psychologist, takes She off medications, and they go to live in their secluded hideaway in the forest, a cottage named Eden.
He subjects her to probing questions and the discussion of the Meaning of it All, which must affect her like a needle stab to an inflamed tooth. He is quite intelligent and insightful, and brings passive aggression to a brutally intimate level. Then she wounds him, and while he's unconscious she drills a hole through his leg and bolts a grindstone to it. He drags himself into the forest and tries to hide in an animal burrow. She finds him, and pounds him with a shovel to force him deeper. Then she tries to bury him alive. I won't mention two gruesome scenes involving the genital areas.
What does this metaphor (with a Prologue, an Epilogue and Four Chapters) mean? The dinner conversations all over town must not have been appetizing. Some read it this way: Perhaps the world began with man evil instead of good, guilty instead of innocent. That the Garden of Eden was visited by the Antichrist, not the Lord. That man's Original Sin was not eating from the Tree of Knowledge, but not vomiting forth knowledge and purging himself.
All for this will be discussed at great length. What can be said is that von Trier, after what many found the agonizing boredom of his previous Cannes films "Dogville" and "Manderlay," has made a film that is not boring. Unendurable, perhaps, but not boring. For relief I am looking forward to the overnight reviews of those who think they can explain exactly what it means. In this case, perhaps, a film should not mean, but be.
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yeah the boss of it all wasn't great but at least to me it was memorable, meaning that sometimes i think about it for no apparent reason so it abviously left an imprint in my mind. I'm scared and exchited about this one as I like his films. btw, I thought that he has suffer from depression throughout his entire life. Am I wrong?
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I like Von Trier just because he's so contrary. The man is a total gas.
Most of the critics are a bunch of dolts, however. They're reacting exactly the way he wants them to by saying his flick is "offensive" & jeering at the screen. The man intentionally thumbs his nose at the critics with his movies and they're too dumb to realize it. It's fabulous. My favorite moment of antagonism from the man is the end credit sequence from Dogville. The reactions found in the reviews were so LOL.
Most of the critics are a bunch of dolts, however. They're reacting exactly the way he wants them to by saying his flick is "offensive" & jeering at the screen. The man intentionally thumbs his nose at the critics with his movies and they're too dumb to realize it. It's fabulous. My favorite moment of antagonism from the man is the end credit sequence from Dogville. The reactions found in the reviews were so LOL.
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I like Von Trier just because he's so contrary. The man is a total gas.
Most of the critics are a bunch of dolts, however. They're reacting exactly the way he wants them to by saying his flick is "offensive" & jeering at the screen. The man intentionally thumbs his nose at the critics with his movies and they're too dumb to realize it. It's fabulous. My favorite moment of antagonism from the man is the end credit sequence from Dogville. The reactions found in the reviews were so LOL.
Most of the critics are a bunch of dolts, however. They're reacting exactly the way he wants them to by saying his flick is "offensive" & jeering at the screen. The man intentionally thumbs his nose at the critics with his movies and they're too dumb to realize it. It's fabulous. My favorite moment of antagonism from the man is the end credit sequence from Dogville. The reactions found in the reviews were so LOL.
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I like Von Trier just because he's so contrary. The man is a total gas.
Most of the critics are a bunch of dolts, however. They're reacting exactly the way he wants them to by saying his flick is "offensive" & jeering at the screen. The man intentionally thumbs his nose at the critics with his movies and they're too dumb to realize it. It's fabulous. My favorite moment of antagonism from the man is the end credit sequence from Dogville. The reactions found in the reviews were so LOL.
Most of the critics are a bunch of dolts, however. They're reacting exactly the way he wants them to by saying his flick is "offensive" & jeering at the screen. The man intentionally thumbs his nose at the critics with his movies and they're too dumb to realize it. It's fabulous. My favorite moment of antagonism from the man is the end credit sequence from Dogville. The reactions found in the reviews were so LOL.
But I agree. Trier knows exactly what he's doing and he doesn't care if you're an idiot
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I think he's very talented and have enjoyed many of his films, but get a little tired of his message. Contempt and despair after a while become kind of, you know, a drag.
That said, I'll be seeing this one, because I guess I haven't learned my lesson.
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Sounds like a light, heartwarming romp.
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Ebert can't stop thinking about it and has written some more.
http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/2009..._antichri.html
An interesting read (some spoilers though)
http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/2009..._antichri.html
An interesting read (some spoilers though)
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Can't wait to double feature this with Audition.
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I like Ebert a lot, but all he's doing is talking me into staying far away from this (likely) fraud of a movie. Von Trier is just an angry and depressed (by his own admission) person who likes to bully people into calling him a great artist. The implication being, if you don't "get him" then you're a shallow brainless bourgeois pig.
Most critics won't take the bait, but the ones who want to be different, the fake intellectuals will sit through this torture porn and figure that it makes some important statement about how horrible the human soul is or that western civilization should die or some other horseshit.
If this is great art, then "Saw IV" is the Mona Lisa.
Most critics won't take the bait, but the ones who want to be different, the fake intellectuals will sit through this torture porn and figure that it makes some important statement about how horrible the human soul is or that western civilization should die or some other horseshit.
If this is great art, then "Saw IV" is the Mona Lisa.