The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan)
#3026
DVD Talk Platinum Edition
Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan)
ya don't see them killing Bruce although that would be awesome
at the very least paralyzing him is what i think will happen
at the very least paralyzing him is what i think will happen
#3027
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan)
I don't think Warner would allow Nolan to end the movie with Batman destroyed, so what I think will happen is that Nolan will end up portraying Batman as a legacy that is more than just one single man. Bruce will be broken and done, but a Jean Paul Valley type person will become the new Batman. That would be the whole "Rises" part with the Batman legacy continuing on after Bruce is gone.
We already saw a glimpse of that in the second movie with the various Batman impersonators. Maybe that was actually a bit of foreshadowing.
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan)
I don't think Warner would allow Nolan to end the movie with Batman destroyed, so what I think will happen is that Nolan will end up portraying Batman as a legacy that is more than just one single man. Bruce will be broken and done, but a Jean Paul Valley type person will become the new Batman. That would be the whole "Rises" part with the Batman legacy continuing on after Bruce is gone.
We already saw a glimpse of that in the second movie with the various Batman impersonators. Maybe that was actually a bit of foreshadowing.
We already saw a glimpse of that in the second movie with the various Batman impersonators. Maybe that was actually a bit of foreshadowing.
#3031
DVD Talk Legend
Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan)
Awesome poster, but i didn't expect anything less. I'd love to keep further installments in Nolan's universe (leaving the door open for him and Bale's return in 10-15yrs), but the only actors with the potential to stay in imo would be Hathaway and JGL (despite not knowing whether his part is more than a cop or not). Is there a comic storyline besides the futuristic Batman Beyond about someone else carrying on the Batman Legacy? (I like that title!)
#3033
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan)
Also from 2008-2010 Dick took up the cowl and became Batman once again when Bruce was "killed" by Darkseid in Final Crisis.
Also Batman #666 was a good standalone story of a possible future in which Bruce's son Damian becomes Batman.
#3034
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan)
I don't think Warner would allow Nolan to end the movie with Batman destroyed, so what I think will happen is that Nolan will end up portraying Batman as a legacy that is more than just one single man. Bruce will be broken and done, but a Jean Paul Valley type person will become the new Batman. That would be the whole "Rises" part with the Batman legacy continuing on after Bruce is gone.
We already saw a glimpse of that in the second movie with the various Batman impersonators. Maybe that was actually a bit of foreshadowing.
We already saw a glimpse of that in the second movie with the various Batman impersonators. Maybe that was actually a bit of foreshadowing.
I'd be okay with something along the lines of the movie opens up with Batman battered after facing off with various villains through the years and getting taken down by Bane (similar to the Knightfall story) and being forced to go into healing for a number of years. I think the eight years shouldn't all be down time, maybe explain that Batman was still working somewhat after the events of The Dark Knight for a couple years until Bane shows up and breaks him then for like six years or whatever Bruce is in healing. Bane comes back later in the film with the League of Assassins to take out Gotham for good and calls Batman out
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Unrelated to the Nolan Batman trilogy at all but after this version of Batman wraps I'd like to see a Batman Beyond type adaptation. It'd be a somewhat new perspective on the idea of Batman rather than rehashing the same idea again. Still have Bruce there as Terry's mentor and to help him out. I think it'd be a decent idea to try out. Not that Warner would probably ever go for it but I'd love to see it.
Last edited by Mike86; 12-10-11 at 10:08 PM.
#3035
DVD Talk Legend
Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan)
Unrelated to the Nolan Batman trilogy at all but after this version of Batman wraps I'd like to see a Batman Beyond type adaptation. It'd be a somewhat new perspective on the idea of Batman rather than rehashing the same idea again. Still have Bruce there as Terry's mentor and to help him out. I think it'd be a decent idea to try out. Not that Warner would probably ever go for it but I'd love to see it.
#3036
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan)
Yeah, see I think that'd be too big of a leap. If they decide to redo the whole thing they'd be wise to copy the Arkham games... realism but with more comic book sensibilities. The big question WB faces is where Batman goes from here... we've had three distinct iterations basically over the last 20+ yrs. They'd do well to lock in a visionary director and cast for a trilogy at a time for the next 10+yrs. Preferably they'd continue Nolan's, perhaps the smart move would be to copy what Universal's doing with Bourne. Though Sony has balls for essentially ripping to shreds their most successful franchise.
#3037
DVD Talk Legend
Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan)
Not sure if this was mentioned, but I read on Batman on Film that the producer (Emma Thomas) said there's a new trailer that will be released next week. I suspect it will debut with Sherlock Holmes 2.
#3038
DVD Talk Legend
Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan)
Neither do I. (which is separate from Spidey since I never liked those movies) But if you're reintroducing "old Bruce" you're still essentially taking out Bale (and by extension, Nolan) So, the "safe" move is to carry on the existing established series. BUT, they won't decide a thing until they see how the new Spider-Man does next summer. They have the advantage of seeing how a reboot plays for a series just 10 yrs old.
#3039
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan)
I seriously doubt we will see a Batman Beyond type of movie. More than likely the next Batman movie will be more like classic Batman. With Marvel's recent movie ventures all crossing over into the upcoming Avengers movie, if that does well I am sure DC will try something similar with a Justice League movie that crosses over with the Green Lantern movie, the upcoming Man of Steel, a new Batman reboot, and possibly a Flash movie.
#3041
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan)
I still expect JGLs character to replace Wayne under the cowl while he's out of commission.
The 'rises' in the title can refer both to that -Batman rising again (under new managment so to speak), as well as a scene towards the end where Wayne is shown to be making great progress at getting out of a wheelchair and back on his feet.
Without that last aspect (that Wayne is seriously put out of commission for a long time, possibly forever) then the inclusion of Bane in what Nolan describes as the end of the Bruce Wayne story he started in Begins, makes little difference one way or the other. I don't think they arrived at him because he is some amazing character so much that his 'gimmick' allows them to craft a story that closes out Waynes as Batman. Even if he does get the use of his legs back by the end of the film, his career as a dynamic crime fighter is over- and we all know they won't end this implying that Batman is out of commission permanently too.
The 'rises' in the title can refer both to that -Batman rising again (under new managment so to speak), as well as a scene towards the end where Wayne is shown to be making great progress at getting out of a wheelchair and back on his feet.
Without that last aspect (that Wayne is seriously put out of commission for a long time, possibly forever) then the inclusion of Bane in what Nolan describes as the end of the Bruce Wayne story he started in Begins, makes little difference one way or the other. I don't think they arrived at him because he is some amazing character so much that his 'gimmick' allows them to craft a story that closes out Waynes as Batman. Even if he does get the use of his legs back by the end of the film, his career as a dynamic crime fighter is over- and we all know they won't end this implying that Batman is out of commission permanently too.
#3043
DVD Talk Hero
Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan)
i havent read the full thread yet, but i read on another site that screenings of MI4 will be getting a standard 2 minute trailer. Any truth to that
#3044
DVD Talk Legend
Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan)
I think we'll most certainly see the first full trailer sometime in the next few weeks. Attaching it to Sherlock Holmes 2 would make the most sense since it's WB, but it could be any of the big movies.
#3045
Suspended
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http://www.thehdroom.com/news/The-Da...Locations/9954
Every other theater gets a standard trailer.
#3046
Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan)
This guy over at Cracked had an interesting theory:
http://www.cracked.com/blog/advanced...l-bruce-wayne/
http://www.cracked.com/blog/advanced...l-bruce-wayne/
#3047
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan)
trying to stay away from other spoilers, but that poster is KILLER.
#3048
DVD Talk Legend
Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan)
This guy over at Cracked had an interesting theory:
http://www.cracked.com/blog/advanced...l-bruce-wayne/
http://www.cracked.com/blog/advanced...l-bruce-wayne/
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