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Old 06-04-15, 11:48 AM
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Movie lines that make no sense

I was just watching The Rock for the millionth time and was struck by a line that has always bugged the shit out of me.

When they are listing all of Hummel's commendations in the war room, they say this:

Chief of Staff Hayden Sinclair: Three tours in Vietnam, Panama, Grenada, Desert Storm; three Purple Hearts, two Silver Stars and the Congressional Medal of - Jesus. This man is a hero.
That's how IMDB lists it. The way the actor says it though, is "The Congressional Medal of Jesus" - no break, no pause like he's reading a list and has decided to stop reading. He flat out says "The Congressional Medal of Jesus".

See it here around the 20 second mark:

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This has always bugged me. I can't believe no one on set noticed how that line was read. People have googled "what is the congressional medal of Jesus" because of it.

Anyway, what movie lines have you noticed that make no sense?
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Re: Movie lines that make no sense

It's pretty obvious to me that he interrupts himself mid-sentence.
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Sorry, I disagree. He doesn't pause at all. Also it's a super weird place to stop. He should have said "The Congressional Medal of Honor...Jesus." He just says "The Congressional Medal of Jesus" at the end of a list of commendations.
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the first part of that line should have been FOUR tours...as in "Four tours -- in vietnam, panama, granada, desert storm...."

then it'd be 4, 3, 2, 1 (and a partridge in a pear tree).
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The line reading makes perfect sense to me, especially as you watch it. He's reading "Congressional Medal of--" and then he looks up and says "Jesus, this man is a hero." He didn't have to finish because everyone in the room knew that "Honor" would come next.

There are enough other things in the movie that make no sense that one can complain about.
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Re: Movie lines that make no sense

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The line reading makes perfect sense to me, especially as you watch it. He's reading "Congressional Medal of--" and then he looks up and says "Jesus, this man is a hero." He didn't have to finish because everyone in the room knew that "Honor" would come next.
Watch it again - he doesn't look up until after he says Jesus. Like he just read it off the page.

This is Line Reading 101 stuff here, people.

There are enough other things in the movie that make no sense that one can complain about.
Well that's certainly true.
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the first part of that line should have been FOUR tours...as in "Four tours -- in vietnam, panama, granada, desert storm...."

then it'd be 4, 3, 2, 1 (and a partridge in a pear tree).
I think he meant three tours in Vietnam........and then the other operations.
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I think he meant three tours in Vietnam........and then the other operations.
i know. but i like the patterned version better (plus it lists 4 locations so it still would have made sense)
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Re: Movie lines that make no sense

"Do you know what happens when a toad gets struck by lightning?"
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Originally Posted by Draven
I can't believe no one on set noticed how that line was read.
That what awful.

As a renown auteur, Michael Bay concentrates on the more important aspects of a film. He can't be bothered by bad acting and dialogue delivery.

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Re: Movie lines that make no sense

Originally Posted by Lord Zarak
"Do you know what happens when a toad gets struck by lightning?"
I really can't see any punch line where that works. That was mind-boggling terrible line any way you take it.

Originally Posted by inri222
That what awful.

As a renown auteur, Michael Bay concentrates on the more important aspects of a film. He can't be bothered by bad acting and dialogue delivery.
But actors speak so highly of him.
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Re: Movie lines that make no sense

Originally Posted by hanshotfirst1138
But actors speak so highly of him.
The ones that get to keep their jobs do.
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Re: Movie lines that make no sense

I never got the hate for that X-men line. It was clunky and dumb but I never saw it as memorably bad. But oh well.

Movie lines that make no sense?

PANCAKES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Movie lines that make no sense

Put me in the "Don't See A Problem With The Line Read" camp. His response mid-line read makes sense.
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Re: Movie lines that make no sense

Originally Posted by RichC2
I never got the hate for that X-men line. It was clunky and dumb but I never saw it as memorably bad. But oh well.

Movie lines that make no sense?

PANCAKES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well, it's a line from a "comic book" movie, so it has to be analyzed to fucking death.
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Re: Movie lines that make no sense

Another monkey in the wrench*

(*We've had a thread like this already.)
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Re: Movie lines that make no sense

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Put me in the "Don't See A Problem With The Line Read" camp. His response mid-line read makes sense.
It does? If I was reading a grocery list and, while looking at the page, said "Ok, I need to get milk, eggs, flour and Jesus" and then looked up and said "Are you making a cake?", you wouldn't think that "Jesus" was on that list?
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#TeamInterruptsHimself
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Re: Movie lines that make no sense

Originally Posted by hanshotfirst1138
"Do you know what happens when a toad gets struck by lightning?"

I really can't see any punch line where that works. That was mind-boggling terrible line any way you take it.
Bryan Singer addressed this line in the X-Men commentary track. He knew he blew it with "Same thing as everything else," and told a story where some young kid called him out on it. The kid told him the obvious punch line is "It croaks."

Still, awful setup and lame payoff.
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Fun fact: Joss Whedon is responsible for the toad line. He claims it was ruined by the delivery...

Everybody remembers that as the worst line ever written, but the thing about that is, it was supposed to be delivered as completely offhand. [Adopts casual, bored tone.] "You know what happens when a toad gets hit by lightning?" Then, after he gets electrocuted, "Ahhh, pretty much the same thing that happens to anything else." But Halle Berry said it like she was Desdemona. [Strident, ringing voice.] "The same thing that happens to everything eeelse!" That's the thing that makes you go crazy. At least "You're a dick" got delivered right. The worst thing about these things is that, when the actors say it wrong, it makes the writer look stupid.
http://www.avclub.com/article/joss-whedon-13730

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Originally Posted by Draven
It does? If I was reading a grocery list and, while looking at the page, said "Ok, I need to get milk, eggs, flour and Jesus" and then looked up and said "Are you making a cake?", you wouldn't think that "Jesus" was on that list?
It was a list of tours and meritorious service, not a grocery list. It would be akin to reading accolades attributed in show business, "...an Emmy, a Grammy, a Tony, an Oscar - Jesus. This person is something else."
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Re: Movie lines that make no sense

I don't believe that Honor needed to be said to get the point, but I do agree that it sounds like "The Congressional Medal of Jesus", without any pause or particular emphasis on the word Jesus to indicate that he is interrupting himself.
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Originally Posted by Draven
Sorry, I disagree.
I disagree with your disagreement. It's pretty obvious to me he interrupts himself, and no one in their right mind believes there is a Congressional Medal of Jesus he could be talking about.
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Re: Movie lines that make no sense

I think this thread needs a poll, and it needs to be retitled, and any posts not about this line in The Rock should be deleted and the users should be banned (or not)

We need to get to the bottom of this. Nic Cage's career depends on it.


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