The Hobbit
#728
DVD Talk Legend
#731
re: The Hobbit
My sentiments exactly; I would love to see another Hellboy now that it's doable time-wise; perhaps Frankenstein will come first and then the "Hellboy vs. the Universal Monsters" idea?
#732
DVD Talk Limited Edition
re: The Hobbit
Son of a bitch! Why wouldn't Peter Jackson simply take this over at this point? He's been involved through the entire thing anyway and since he lives in NZ, it wouldn't mean uprooting his life to wait for these stupid legal battles to sort themselves out. Plus, it would mean a more consistent vision through the whole Tolkien saga.
#733
DVD Talk Limited Edition
re: The Hobbit
Still don't get the Del Toro lovefest. I made a comment earlier in this thread about the same thing.
Pan's Labyrinth was OUTSTANDING. I'll definitely give him that. Both Hellboys, Blade 2 and Mimic were all complete garbarge though in my opinion. I guess I haven't seen Cronos or The Devils Backbone. He also produced the completely unwatchable "While She Was Out"
Frankly, he's done ONE good thing in his career. Like I said, Pan's Labyrinth was an outstanding movie, but it seems like that's pretty much all he's done.
Pan's Labyrinth was OUTSTANDING. I'll definitely give him that. Both Hellboys, Blade 2 and Mimic were all complete garbarge though in my opinion. I guess I haven't seen Cronos or The Devils Backbone. He also produced the completely unwatchable "While She Was Out"
Frankly, he's done ONE good thing in his career. Like I said, Pan's Labyrinth was an outstanding movie, but it seems like that's pretty much all he's done.
#734
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
re: The Hobbit
Still don't get the Del Toro lovefest. I made a comment earlier in this thread about the same thing.
Pan's Labyrinth was OUTSTANDING. I'll definitely give him that. Both Hellboys, Blade 2 and Mimic were all complete garbarge though in my opinion. I guess I haven't seen Cronos or The Devils Backbone. He also produced the completely unwatchable "While She Was Out"
Frankly, he's done ONE good thing in his career. Like I said, Pan's Labyrinth was an outstanding movie, but it seems like that's pretty much all he's done.
Pan's Labyrinth was OUTSTANDING. I'll definitely give him that. Both Hellboys, Blade 2 and Mimic were all complete garbarge though in my opinion. I guess I haven't seen Cronos or The Devils Backbone. He also produced the completely unwatchable "While She Was Out"
Frankly, he's done ONE good thing in his career. Like I said, Pan's Labyrinth was an outstanding movie, but it seems like that's pretty much all he's done.
#735
DVD Talk Limited Edition
re: The Hobbit
So, Cronos and The Devil's Backbone were good enough so that, along with Pan's Labyrinth, he's directed 3 awesome movies?
Not trying to be a prick at all, but according to his imdb page, I've seen all the movies he's directed with the exception of 2 short films he made in the mid 80's.
I mean if Cronos and Devil's Backbone were on par with Pan's Labyrinth then I might change my opinion as 3 great movies and 4 stinkers still probably means he's pretty damn good.
However, somebody with 1 great movie, 4 stinkers and 2 so-so movies does not deserve the praise that some are piling on him.
Not trying to be a prick at all, but according to his imdb page, I've seen all the movies he's directed with the exception of 2 short films he made in the mid 80's.
I mean if Cronos and Devil's Backbone were on par with Pan's Labyrinth then I might change my opinion as 3 great movies and 4 stinkers still probably means he's pretty damn good.
However, somebody with 1 great movie, 4 stinkers and 2 so-so movies does not deserve the praise that some are piling on him.
#736
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
re: The Hobbit
So, Cronos and The Devil's Backbone were good enough so that, along with Pan's Labyrinth, he's directed 3 awesome movies?
Not trying to be a prick at all, but according to his imdb page, I've seen all the movies he's directed with the exception of 2 short films he made in the mid 80's.
I mean if Cronos and Devil's Backbone were on par with Pan's Labyrinth then I might change my opinion as 3 great movies and 4 stinkers still probably means he's pretty damn good.
However, somebody with 1 great movie, 4 stinkers and 2 so-so movies does not deserve the praise that some are piling on him.
Not trying to be a prick at all, but according to his imdb page, I've seen all the movies he's directed with the exception of 2 short films he made in the mid 80's.
I mean if Cronos and Devil's Backbone were on par with Pan's Labyrinth then I might change my opinion as 3 great movies and 4 stinkers still probably means he's pretty damn good.
However, somebody with 1 great movie, 4 stinkers and 2 so-so movies does not deserve the praise that some are piling on him.
#737
DVD Talk Limited Edition
re: The Hobbit
I'll check it out.
I just wish his big Hollywood movies were better, especially if was gonna do The Hobbit and from the looks of his rumored projects he'll be tackling some interesting stuff. I just hope the stuff he comes out with next is closer to the quality of Pan's and not Hellboy, Blade and Mimic.
I just wish his big Hollywood movies were better, especially if was gonna do The Hobbit and from the looks of his rumored projects he'll be tackling some interesting stuff. I just hope the stuff he comes out with next is closer to the quality of Pan's and not Hellboy, Blade and Mimic.
#738
DVD Talk Limited Edition
re: The Hobbit
Good grief, how many years are they going to stretch out this production? We all may be dead by the time they finish this. And they wanted Del Toro to commit to living in New Zealand for six years? Crazy.
#739
re: The Hobbit
It's time for Peter Jackson to step up to the plate and make this movie like it's meant to be made.
....Oh and all the Del Toro fanboys can exit the thread now.....
....Oh and all the Del Toro fanboys can exit the thread now.....
#740
DVD Talk Hero
#741
DVD Talk Limited Edition
re: The Hobbit
There is no "they". No one was forcing Del Toro to commit to stay in NZ, but as director, in order to oversee and manage the pre-production, production and post-production of these 2 huge back-to-back films, it would have essentially required him to move in for those 6 years. He could have stayed in LA (and kept his family there) and flown back and forth to NZ as necessary, but that would have meant lots of video conferencing and long distance approval, which would seem to be difficult for a hands-on director like Del Toro (just check out any of the making-of materials for any of his films).
#743
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re: The Hobbit
Fecking MGM. Just make the damn movie! I wonder if the beancounters over there are related to the ones at Fox back in the 70's who weren't sure if funding Empire Strikes Back was worth the risk.
Meanwhile the live action version of Pac Man (in 3D!), and Diff'rent Strokes: The Movie are probably being rushed into production.
Sorry. Had to vent (feel better now thanks).
Meanwhile the live action version of Pac Man (in 3D!), and Diff'rent Strokes: The Movie are probably being rushed into production.
Sorry. Had to vent (feel better now thanks).
#744
DVD Talk Legend
re: The Hobbit
It's not MGM saying "no" - they even put the new Bond on hold because of all of their financial trouble. Until Time Warner or another entity bail them out a lot of projects are being left to rot.
#745
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
re: The Hobbit
This is ridiculous. Has there ever been a project more guaranteed to make a mint of money than this one? How on earth is it still in such development hell? For God's sake, MGM, get some private equity firms involved, anything. First they try to eff PJ over, then they run up $4Bn in debt making shitty movies that no one wants to see. Then, finally, they manage to get a PJ script, a first class fantasy-experienced director and a defining sure-fire franchise and you still can't get it together? That's incompetence.
To those keeping track, it's now been seven years since ROTK and The Hobbit still doesn't have a release date or even a director. Pathetic.
To those keeping track, it's now been seven years since ROTK and The Hobbit still doesn't have a release date or even a director. Pathetic.
#746
DVD Talk Legend
re: The Hobbit
But more importantly, what does this do the the BD release of the LOTR EE's?!?!?!?!? Well, guess it looks like I will get those BDs of the LOTR theatrical version after all.
#747
DVD Talk Legend
re: The Hobbit
Again, MGM had no hand in the production of LOTR. New Line produced and owns LOTR, so there's no financial blocking of the LOTR EEs. If the Hobbit gets pushed back long enough, it's possible New Line may release the LOTR EE BDs beforehand.
#750
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
re: The Hobbit
Guillermo del Toro leaving The Hobbit is great news! I really didn't like The Lord Of The Rings movies so I wasn't really interested in this project, but I would have seen it because of del Toro and given it a fair shot. All that aside though, it was really just a bummer that del Toro would be too involved with this for the next however many years to make things I'd much rather see (Frankenstein, Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, Hellboy 3, Slaughterhouse-Five).