Del Toro is The Wolf Man - Page 6

chris_sc77 · 08-01-09, 11:33 AM

Entertainment Weekly reports that the first official trailer for WOlf Man trailer will be shown with Inglorious Basterds.

Cosmic Bus · 08-20-09, 10:51 AM

Trailer

JumpCutz · 08-20-09, 10:56 AM

Looks like a nice companion piece to Coppola's Dracula.

SuckaMC · 08-20-09, 10:59 AM

here ya go...

Solid Snake PAC · 08-20-09, 11:02 AM

SuckaMC · 08-20-09, 11:04 AM

beat ya! lol

KillerCannibal · 08-20-09, 11:04 AM

Great trailer; I love the look of the film. CGI seems like it could be questionable. They really just need to release this goddamn thing already.

SuckaMC · 08-20-09, 11:06 AM

I thought the first foot and hand transform shots were quite good. We shall see...

Solid Snake PAC · 08-20-09, 11:08 AM

DIE!!! SuckaMC!

Yeah, the hand and foot stuff looked good and kinda uncomfortably creepy in the physical since. I never want to see fingers THAT awkward ever again. *shudder*

riotinmyskull · 08-20-09, 02:56 PM

i'll admit...doesn't look all that bad. i was expecting the worst.

Mr. Cinema · 08-20-09, 03:17 PM

Looks good to me. He seems to be standing upright in all the shots. Maybe the talk of them having him on all fours didn't happen afterall.

B.A. · 08-20-09, 03:54 PM

Actually looks decent.

Giantrobo · 08-20-09, 04:22 PM

Wow that looks like a classy flick.

The Bus · 08-20-09, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SuckaMC

beat ya! lol

Cosmic Bus beat you. He even had it in HD.

Matthew Chmiel · 10-08-09, 01:57 AM

Saw a test screening of the flick tonight. Was told that we were the first audience getting a look at the film. Most of the audience came to the same agreement at the end of the film: it was really boring. I can't remember the last time I've sat through a movie and been so utterly goddamn bored through it.

I've never been a big werewolf movie fan, the only three entries in the genre that I like are The Howling, An American Werewolf in London and Dog Soldiers.

This has none of the fun, but at least quadruple the gore. I would be surprised if the version we saw tonight passes the MPAA with an R. The scenes where there is dedicated werewolf carnage are actually quite fun and entertaining. Innocent people are just ripped to shreds with gallons of blood being pumped out. Sadly, the action sequences only constitute around ten minutes of the film's 110-minute running time. During the remainder of the time, we get a very loose and thin resemblance of narrative storytelling. I get that this was a rough cut, but it's been a while since I've seen a film with such a poor narrative structure. Scenes are placed within the film for no rhyme or reason. It feels the footage is only there to fulfill a running time that surpasses the 1941's 70-minutes. The remake doesn't actually need to be any longer than 70-minutes and if Universal cut out a lot of the fat, this film may be salvageable.

The weak storytelling is what hurts the film. The plot comes in and out as it pleases and Johnston thinks it would be interesting to throw in weird dream sequences. While they're nice to look at, this isn't a Lynch film and it hurts the film just as much as the filler. The cast isn't of any support as well. Hugo Weaving seems to be the only one here trying whereas everyone else seems very out of place.

This may be the first big-budget disaster of 2010, that is if Universal doesn't delay it until 2011.

The most entertaining part of my experience tonight was the fight my friend and I got into with a gentleman sitting behind us as we were filling out the questionnaire. We were joking with the people sitting next to us as they hated the film as much as we did and this person didn't take too kindly to our "rough" comments. He obviously thought this remake was the second coming of Christ and just started hurling insults at all of us. Best insult he dished to us? "You must have vaginas." I took it up a notch and fired back, "I actually have two bachelor's degrees whereas I can tell you have none. It helps that both of mine are in English and Film and I can state as a fact that the film was awful and I would've enjoyed more violence and gore. One more thing, I also can tell that you have a vagina and am pretty sure your boyfriend will be fucking yours tonight." He quickly shut up right after the fact. What made matters even more entertaining is he walked out of the auditorium screaming out, "That's how you make The Wolfman!" in which another moviegoer quipped back, "Yeah, but that doesn't mean it was any good." Poor son of a bitch, I feel bad for him that we all ripped him a new asshole.

Giantrobo · 10-08-09, 05:28 AM

Ruh rho raggy!

Solid Snake PAC · 10-08-09, 10:55 AM

Damn....I kinda feared that it wouldn't live up to the status of the Wolfman fame. I'm sad to hear about MC. Well...sounds like Hugo Weaving is always doing his good thing. So that's good.

KillerCannibal · 10-08-09, 11:01 AM

No surprise. They haven't been delaying the film so much because it's awesome. I feared this would be a snooze-fest, and from the sound of this review that's true. Too bad, I was really hoping for a kick-ass Wolfman update.

masetodd · 10-08-09, 12:24 PM

I watched the Preview and kept thinking Del Toro looked totally mis-cast.

Matthew Chmiel · 10-08-09, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by KillerCannibal

No surprise. They haven't been delaying the film so much because it's awesome. I feared this would be a snooze-fest, and from the sound of this review that's true. Too bad, I was really hoping for a kick-ass Wolfman update.

When Del Toro transforms into the Wolfman (with the exception of the ending), the film is a blast. People were cheering with how much carnage ended up on screen. The problem I had with these scenes is that it lasts way too short. The Wolfman sees no more than ten minutes of screen time.

It blows my mind how they ruined the pacing of the film. When the film is firing on all cylinders, it lasts too short. When the film tries to tell it's story, the film has no idea where to go and decides to crawl to wherever it's destination may be.

KillerCannibal · 10-08-09, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matthew Chmiel

When Del Toro transforms into the Wolfman (with the exception of the ending), the film is a blast. People were cheering with how much carnage ended up on screen. The problem I had with these scenes is that it lasts way too short. The Wolfman sees no more than ten minutes of screen time.

It blows my mind how they ruined the pacing of the film. When the film is firing on all cylinders, it lasts too short. When the film tries to tell it's story, the film has no idea where to go and decides to crawl to wherever it's destination may be.

Question: how is the CGI? And how much, if any, practical FX work is on-screen?

Matthew Chmiel · 10-08-09, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KillerCannibal

Question: how is the CGI? And how much, if any, practical FX work is on-screen?

Two out of the three times we see Del Toro as The Wolfman, it's a mixture of make-up and CGI. It's too hard to tell as this was still a "work-in-progress."

The third (and final) time we see Del Toro as The Wolfman, it's nearly all CGI and it looks like shit.

mdc3000 · 10-08-09, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthew Chmiel

It blows my mind how they ruined the pacing of the film. When the film is firing on all cylinders, it lasts too short. When the film tries to tell it's story, the film has no idea where to go and decides to crawl to wherever it's destination may be.

Wow - knowing this is directed by Joe Johnston who had no problem turning in a Jurassic Park III that sacrificed story and a third act for the benefit of making the film feel like a shot of adrenaline, this is pretty disappointing. The guy knows how to make a thrill ride picture, guess it's got a little too much ambition that doesn't work.

Trout · 10-08-09, 06:22 PM

CGI transformations? Rick Baker must be pretty disappointed.

Solid Snake PAC · 10-08-09, 09:20 PM

He really fought to do it his way too. Alas...

08-01-09, 11:33 AM	#126
chris_sc77 Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bellefontaine, Ohio Posts: 5,628	Re: Del Toro is The Wolf Man Entertainment Weekly reports that the first official trailer for WOlf Man trailer will be shown with Inglorious Basterds.

08-20-09, 10:51 AM	#127
Cosmic Bus DVD Talk Platinum Edition Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 3,129	Re: Del Toro is The Wolf Man Trailer

08-20-09, 10:56 AM	#128
JumpCutz DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: south of heaven Posts: 11,087	Re: Del Toro is The Wolf Man Looks like a nice companion piece to Coppola's Dracula.

08-20-09, 10:59 AM	#129
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08-20-09, 11:04 AM	#132
KillerCannibal DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Behind the Orange Curtain Posts: 17,052	Re: Del Toro is The Wolf Man Great trailer; I love the look of the film. CGI seems like it could be questionable. They really just need to release this goddamn thing already. __________________ DVDAf Horror Movie Challenges: 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012

08-20-09, 11:06 AM	#133
SuckaMC DVD Talk Special Edition Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 1,363	Re: Del Toro is The Wolf Man I thought the first foot and hand transform shots were quite good. We shall see... __________________ Like zombies? Check out my web series! "...And Then Everything Changed."

08-20-09, 11:08 AM	#134
Solid Snake PAC DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Denton, Tx Posts: 22,160	Re: Del Toro is The Wolf Man DIE!!! SuckaMC! Yeah, the hand and foot stuff looked good and kinda uncomfortably creepy in the physical since. I never want to see fingers THAT awkward ever again. shudder

08-20-09, 02:56 PM	#135
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08-20-09, 03:17 PM	#136
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08-20-09, 03:54 PM	#137
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08-20-09, 04:22 PM	#138
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10-08-09, 01:57 AM	#140
Matthew Chmiel DVD Talk Legend Join Date: May 2000 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 10,945	Re: Del Toro is The Wolf Man Saw a test screening of the flick tonight. Was told that we were the first audience getting a look at the film. Most of the audience came to the same agreement at the end of the film: it was really boring. I can't remember the last time I've sat through a movie and been so utterly goddamn bored through it. I've never been a big werewolf movie fan, the only three entries in the genre that I like are The Howling, An American Werewolf in London and Dog Soldiers. This has none of the fun, but at least quadruple the gore. I would be surprised if the version we saw tonight passes the MPAA with an R. The scenes where there is dedicated werewolf carnage are actually quite fun and entertaining. Innocent people are just ripped to shreds with gallons of blood being pumped out. Sadly, the action sequences only constitute around ten minutes of the film's 110-minute running time. During the remainder of the time, we get a very loose and thin resemblance of narrative storytelling. I get that this was a rough cut, but it's been a while since I've seen a film with such a poor narrative structure. Scenes are placed within the film for no rhyme or reason. It feels the footage is only there to fulfill a running time that surpasses the 1941's 70-minutes. The remake doesn't actually need to be any longer than 70-minutes and if Universal cut out a lot of the fat, this film may be salvageable. The weak storytelling is what hurts the film. The plot comes in and out as it pleases and Johnston thinks it would be interesting to throw in weird dream sequences. While they're nice to look at, this isn't a Lynch film and it hurts the film just as much as the filler. The cast isn't of any support as well. Hugo Weaving seems to be the only one here trying whereas everyone else seems very out of place. This may be the first big-budget disaster of 2010, that is if Universal doesn't delay it until 2011. The most entertaining part of my experience tonight was the fight my friend and I got into with a gentleman sitting behind us as we were filling out the questionnaire. We were joking with the people sitting next to us as they hated the film as much as we did and this person didn't take too kindly to our "rough" comments. He obviously thought this remake was the second coming of Christ and just started hurling insults at all of us. Best insult he dished to us? "You must have vaginas." I took it up a notch and fired back, "I actually have two bachelor's degrees whereas I can tell you have none. It helps that both of mine are in English and Film and I can state as a fact that the film was awful and I would've enjoyed more violence and gore. One more thing, I also can tell that you have a vagina and am pretty sure your boyfriend will be fucking yours tonight." He quickly shut up right after the fact. What made matters even more entertaining is he walked out of the auditorium screaming out, "That's how you make The Wolfman!" in which another moviegoer quipped back, "Yeah, but that doesn't mean it was any good." Poor son of a bitch, I feel bad for him that we all ripped him a new asshole. __________________ Google+ / Instagram / Letterboxd / Spotify / Twitter Find me on PlayStation Network / Xbox Live / Steam: cupboardoflove

10-08-09, 05:28 AM	#141
Giantrobo DVD Talk Hero Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: TORRANCE, CA Posts: 48,278	Re: Del Toro is The Wolf Man Ruh rho raggy! __________________ XBOX Gamertag: Giantrobo On my 4th 360 as of 3.26.10

10-08-09, 10:55 AM	#142
Solid Snake PAC DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Denton, Tx Posts: 22,160	Re: Del Toro is The Wolf Man Damn....I kinda feared that it wouldn't live up to the status of the Wolfman fame. I'm sad to hear about MC. Well...sounds like Hugo Weaving is always doing his good thing. So that's good.

10-08-09, 11:01 AM	#143
KillerCannibal DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Behind the Orange Curtain Posts: 17,052	Re: Del Toro is The Wolf Man No surprise. They haven't been delaying the film so much because it's awesome. I feared this would be a snooze-fest, and from the sound of this review that's true. Too bad, I was really hoping for a kick-ass Wolfman update. __________________ DVDAf Horror Movie Challenges: 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012

10-08-09, 12:24 PM	#144
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10-08-09, 09:20 PM	#150
Solid Snake PAC DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Denton, Tx Posts: 22,160	Re: Del Toro is The Wolf Man He really fought to do it his way too. Alas...