Films with alternate music scores

Giles · 09-30-05, 10:42 AM

This is really a two fold question:

a) The first film that comes my mind is

Legend - Jerry Goldsmith score: European release/ Tangerine Dream: US release, are there any others like this?

b) secondly, have there been any film scores that were completed but ultimately not included in the final cut of the film. I might be wrong, but wasn't there an alternate music score for Oliver Stone's Alexander or was it Troy that never saw release.

FinkPish · 09-30-05, 10:54 AM

For b), it was Troy that had a nearly fully finished score that was rejected. And if anyone is interested, I have that score.

Didn't Hitch have a score that was replaced with a bunch of songs for the theatrical release?

Mondo Kane · 09-30-05, 10:58 AM

(The original) Dawn of the Dead

Giles · 09-30-05, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by FinkPish

For b), it was Troy that had a nearly fully finished score that was rejected. And if anyone is interested, I have that score.

who composed that score? Any idea why it was rejected?

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Originally Posted by Mondo Kane

(The original) Dawn of the Dead

really?! - I've always liked Goblin's music.

Joe Molotov · 09-30-05, 11:26 AM

whaaat · 09-30-05, 11:41 AM

The Wizard of Oz

FinkPish · 09-30-05, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Giles

who composed that score? Any idea why it was rejected?

Gabriel Yared wrote the original score that was dropped because, according to a test audience, and the studio executives too apparently, it sounded too "old-fashioned." Here's an article that reviews the rejected score, if you are interested: http://www.soundtrack.net/features/article/?id=120

Mondo Kane · 09-30-05, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Giles

really?! - I've always liked Goblin's music.

Yeah, there's a lot of stock music that George chose for the first half of the extended cut.

Giles · 09-30-05, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by FinkPish

Gabriel Yared wrote the original score that was dropped because, according to a test audience, and the studio executives too apparently, it sounded too "old-fashioned." Here's an article that reviews the rejected score, if you are interested: http://www.soundtrack.net/features/article/?id=120

fascinating read - thanks!

Giles · 09-30-05, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Mondo Kane

Yeah, there's a lot of stock music that George chose for the first half of the extended cut.

I had also read that for the Dario Argento European cut of the film, he redid the audio mix of the score so that the music was more prominent and a tad bit louder.

FinkPish · 09-30-05, 12:06 PM

I believe Mychael Danna had a score that was rejected from Hulk, being replaced by Danny Elfman. I'm not sure how far into scoring he was though.

Also, I found an article that lists a bunch of rejected scores starting in 1944: http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/arti...g_Rejected.asp

dhmac · 09-30-05, 03:49 PM

Wendy Carlos wrote a score for The Shining that was rejected, except for two pieces, and replaced with some eerie sounding modern compositions instead.

And Carlos just this year released this lost score as a part of two compilation discs:
Rediscovering Lost Scores Vol. 1 and Dediscovering Lost Scores Vol. 2.

ktan1 · 09-30-05, 05:29 PM

Is there a separate score for Burton's Batman? The soundtrack CD doesn't have the music that's at the end of the movie. I'd like to get that one.

Also remember Days of Thunder? The trailer had a nice piece of music, but can't find it in the soundtrack. Any ideas?

TIA

dhmac · 09-30-05, 05:42 PM

Alien has an alternate film score by Jerry Goldsmith that was thrown out, for the most part, by Ridley Scott when the film was released. However, the original DVD release of the movie has this alternate score as an alternate track. (It's one extra that's missing from the later Alien Quadrilogy release.)

jaeufraser · 09-30-05, 05:42 PM

More then likely that Days of Thunder music was just trailer musak from something else, nothing to do with the film. As for missing music in Batman...well, most commercially released scores never include all the music.

As for alternate scores, I can think of a few:

Alan Silvestri put together a score for Mission Impossible, then was replaced by Danny Elfman. Actually, he wrote maybe half an hour of music and after being replaced, I believe used some of those ideas to score Eraser.

Randy Newman wrote a score for Air Force One, which was rejected last minute and a rush job three week score was written by Jerry Goldsmith.

13th Warrior had a score by Graeme Revell back when it was called Eaters of the Dead. After major rewrites and reshoots, Goldsmith was brought on again to rescore the film.

Detective Thorn · 10-02-05, 03:35 PM

The movie Timeline had two different scores.

From the IMDB:

"Jerry Goldsmith had scored and recorded the music for the film in late December 2002. However, Richard Donner decided to do a partial reedit of the film, which forced Goldsmith to come in and fix his score in March 2003. When Donner decided to recut the film once more, he realized that Jerry's score was not what he was looking for, describing it as "beautiful, but not loud enough." Goldsmith was offered the chance to redo his score from scratch, but declined because he was fed up with the movie. Donner then called upon Brian Tyler to do the score for him. Goldsmith's score was released by Varese Sarabande Records in 2004."

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Giles DVD Talk Hero Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Washington DC Posts: 29,866	Films with alternate music scores This is really a two fold question: a) The first film that comes my mind is Legend - Jerry Goldsmith score: European release/ Tangerine Dream: US release, are there any others like this? b) secondly, have there been any film scores that were completed but ultimately not included in the final cut of the film. I might be wrong, but wasn't there an alternate music score for Oliver Stone's Alexander or was it Troy that never saw release.

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ktan1 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: AnyTown, AnyState USA Posts: 717	Is there a separate score for Burton's Batman? The soundtrack CD doesn't have the music that's at the end of the movie. I'd like to get that one. Also remember Days of Thunder? The trailer had a nice piece of music, but can't find it in the soundtrack. Any ideas? TIA __________________ Ktan1

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FinkPish DVD Talk Limited Edition Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 5,657	For b), it was Troy that had a nearly fully finished score that was rejected. And if anyone is interested, I have that score. Didn't Hitch have a score that was replaced with a bunch of songs for the theatrical release?

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FinkPish DVD Talk Limited Edition Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 5,657	I believe Mychael Danna had a score that was rejected from Hulk, being replaced by Danny Elfman. I'm not sure how far into scoring he was though. Also, I found an article that lists a bunch of rejected scores starting in 1944: http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/arti...g_Rejected.asp

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dhmac DVD Talk Limited Edition Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 5,117	Wendy Carlos wrote a score for The Shining that was rejected, except for two pieces, and replaced with some eerie sounding modern compositions instead. And Carlos just this year released this lost score as a part of two compilation discs: Rediscovering Lost Scores Vol. 1 and Dediscovering Lost Scores Vol. 2.

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dhmac DVD Talk Limited Edition Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 5,117	Alien has an alternate film score by Jerry Goldsmith that was thrown out, for the most part, by Ridley Scott when the film was released. However, the original DVD release of the movie has this alternate score as an alternate track. (It's one extra that's missing from the later Alien Quadrilogy release.)

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jaeufraser DVD Talk Ultimate Edition Join Date: Dec 1999 Posts: 4,551	More then likely that Days of Thunder music was just trailer musak from something else, nothing to do with the film. As for missing music in Batman...well, most commercially released scores never include all the music. As for alternate scores, I can think of a few: Alan Silvestri put together a score for Mission Impossible, then was replaced by Danny Elfman. Actually, he wrote maybe half an hour of music and after being replaced, I believe used some of those ideas to score Eraser. Randy Newman wrote a score for Air Force One, which was rejected last minute and a rush job three week score was written by Jerry Goldsmith. 13th Warrior had a score by Graeme Revell back when it was called Eaters of the Dead. After major rewrites and reshoots, Goldsmith was brought on again to rescore the film.

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Detective Thorn Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Macon, Georgia Posts: 267	The movie Timeline had two different scores. From the IMDB: "Jerry Goldsmith had scored and recorded the music for the film in late December 2002. However, Richard Donner decided to do a partial reedit of the film, which forced Goldsmith to come in and fix his score in March 2003. When Donner decided to recut the film once more, he realized that Jerry's score was not what he was looking for, describing it as "beautiful, but not loud enough." Goldsmith was offered the chance to redo his score from scratch, but declined because he was fed up with the movie. Donner then called upon Brian Tyler to do the score for him. Goldsmith's score was released by Varese Sarabande Records in 2004."