"Landing strip's straight ahead." --Obi-Wan

GuessWho · 06-02-05, 07:14 PM

In the beginning of ROTS, Anakin crashlands Grievious' ship on a landing strip.

Since everyone in the subforum LOVES fighting details that don't matter to anything:

Why is there a landing strip/runway? What ship needs a runway?

Jackskeleton · 06-02-05, 07:16 PM

Huge ships like that?

GuessWho · 06-02-05, 07:23 PM

All the ships had a vertical takeoff. The landing gears don't even have wheels, much less need a rolling takeoff.

Jackskeleton · 06-02-05, 07:31 PM

A landing strip can also be used to house/park those ships. So regardless of ships taking off in a horizontal fashion, you will still ned a long strip of land to park/land all those ship.

So in a sense, Landing strip does make some sense.

Also, The planet is a giant traffic jammed city. I'm pretty sure that you would need to assign special routes so that a ship just doesn't do a vertical climb and takes out a lane of traffic. So a landing strip can be used to channel and controls those such routes.

GuessWho · 06-02-05, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jackskeleton

A landing strip can also be used to house/park those ships.

That would be a 'hangar'

Jackskeleton · 06-02-05, 07:42 PM

You got a hanger big enough for those star destroyers to be kept indoors? You saw when Obi was getting into one that there was a huge bridge to the enterence and it was kept outside.

Clearly, they need exterior space for the bigger ships. When they are the size of a city you figure that they would be Landed on a [/b]strip[/b]. Regardless if they are taking off in a horizontal or vertical fashion, they take up a lot of space. Especially during a war when they will be on the move at a moments notice. They would need be kept outside and ready for a vertical and then horizontal left off through an assigned route.

Class316 · 06-02-05, 07:49 PM

It's a landing strip, you need a strip of land to house loads of space ships. Now if they said "runway" then that would be a plot hole.

GuessWho · 06-02-05, 07:53 PM

I was definitely thinking runway

Class316 · 06-02-05, 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GuessWho

I was definitely thinking runway

In this instance landing strip sounds very valid. It could be landing strip or landing pod.

mikehunt · 06-02-05, 09:38 PM

the problem here isn't that there was a landing strip, the problem is that the landing strip just happened to be located in exactly the right spot for an uncontrolable piece of falling starship to hit after falling out of orbit

GuessWho · 06-02-05, 09:43 PM

ah, but how could a starship 'fall' from space instead of just floating away?

Michael Corvin · 06-02-05, 10:25 PM

Damn. I thought this was going to be a thread about Padme.

mikehunt · 06-02-05, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GuessWho

ah, but how could a starship 'fall' from space instead of just floating away?

gravity
same reason satellites and Mir eventually fall to Earth

Class316 · 06-02-05, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikehunt

the problem here isn't that there was a landing strip, the problem is that the landing strip just happened to be located in exactly the right spot for an uncontrolable piece of falling starship to hit after falling out of orbit

Anakin did steer it. Maybe he even used the force to direct it.

masetodd · 06-02-05, 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GuessWho

Why is there a landing strip/runway? What ship needs a runway?

The answer is obviously because Lucas thought this scene would be cool in the movie, and it could all be done in CGI!

Another ship-related question is why do the walls become the ceiling, etc. as the ship is rotating in space? No matter which direction the ship is turned, the artificial gravity should always be pulling one towards the floor! Again, Lucas thought this would look cool on the screen (and it does), but it absolutely makes no sense.

dogmatica · 06-03-05, 02:18 AM

I don't like the landing strip, really. I prefer a trim triangle or bare.

Superboy · 06-03-05, 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masetodd

The answer is obviously because Lucas thought this scene would be cool in the movie, and it could all be done in CGI!

Another ship-related question is why do the walls become the ceiling, etc. as the ship is rotating in space? No matter which direction the ship is turned, the artificial gravity should always be pulling one towards the floor! Again, Lucas thought this would look cool on the screen (and it does), but it absolutely makes no sense.

I was thinking the same thing about artificial gravity. I mean alot of those ships were at an angle too, not directly parallel to the ground beneath them. Also, when an object's orbit decays, it does not fall straight down and plummet like a rock. Then again, why are we even bothering to question the validity of science in sci-fi movies? realistically speaking, we shouldn't even be albe to hear any space battles EVER.

pdinosaur · 06-03-05, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GuessWho

That would be a 'hangar'

case solved!

GuessWho · 06-03-05, 01:41 PM

A landing strip is the same as a runway... just using difefrent words when referring to a takeoff or landing. An aircraft carrier is a mobile runway/landing strip.

M-W.com refers you to "airstrip" when you look up "landing strip" -- and the definition is "a runway"

The concent is the same: to take off or land, you need a rolling start or rolling end.

BUT......... SW ships don't roll.

The only purpose is for storage/parking. They just need a "hangar" (indoors) or "parking lot" (outdoors)

RoyalTea · 06-03-05, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masetodd

The answer is obviously because Lucas thought this scene would be cool in the movie, and it could all be done in CGI!

Another ship-related question is why do the walls become the ceiling, etc. as the ship is rotating in space? No matter which direction the ship is turned, the artificial gravity should always be pulling one towards the floor! Again, Lucas thought this would look cool on the screen (and it does), but it absolutely makes no sense.

perhaps it was close enough to Coruscant that the plantet's gravitational pull was stronger than the artifical gravity in the ship?

pdinosaur · 06-03-05, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GuessWho

The concent is the same: to take off or land, you need a rolling start or rolling end.
The only purpose is for storage/parking. They just need a "hangar" (indoors) or "parking lot" (outdoors)

you've over thought this to the extreme.

dictionary.com defines a runway as "A strip of level, usually paved ground on which aircraft take off and land."

m-w.com says virtually the same thing.

the ship took off from land, thus, it took off from a runway, or an airstrip, or a landing strip. as it was landing, it was entirely appropriate for obiwan to say 'landing strip's straight ahead'

ps, the aircraft carrier was there to demonstrate parking on a landing strip. it would have been better i suppose to show a harrier jet landing on an aircraft carrier. granted it doesn't appear to be hovering, but you get the idea. so enjoy this:

thephantom · 06-03-05, 02:48 PM

Wasn't the airstrip flying? I always thought there was some Air Traffic Controller looking at radar going "Oh SHIT!", and they launched the emergency flying landing pad.

To me it makes perfect sense. When you have flying machines that are a half mile wide and weigh in at over a million tons, you don't want them smashing into your nice row of mile tall buildings at 800+ miles an hour do you? Doesn't even have to be a war, we know engines cut out and shit.

Michael Corvin · 06-03-05, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dogmatica

I don't like the landing strip, really. I prefer a trim triangle or bare.

Kinda puts it in perspective. Two posts about the female anatomy, one being Natalie Portman, yet everyone only wants to talk about aircraft carriers.

Carry on.

GuessWho · 06-03-05, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pdinosaur

you've over thought this to the extreme.[/IMG]

That's my whole point of this thread. To see how far into detail I can push...

From the original post:

Quote:

Since everyone in the subforum LOVES fighting details that don't matter to anything...

and I included a

smilie.... this thread was never serious to begin with. Overthink? No, just making banter.

JohnDoeUSA · 06-03-05, 09:49 PM

This is a great thread because it lets me know that despite what my wife says, I am not the biggest SW geek! Runway this..... Landing strip that......... Rock on fellow SW geeks

06-02-05, 07:14 PM	#1
GuessWho DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 21,965	"Landing strip's straight ahead." --Obi-Wan In the beginning of ROTS, Anakin crashlands Grievious' ship on a landing strip. Since everyone in the subforum LOVES fighting details that don't matter to anything: Why is there a landing strip/runway? What ship needs a runway?

06-02-05, 07:16 PM	#2
Jackskeleton DVD Talk Godfather Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: City of the lakers.. riots.. and drug dealing cops.. los(t) Angel(e)s. ca. Posts: 52,228	Huge ships like that? __________________ *OTHER FORUM TEAM 7 leader*I will not say them here nor there. I will not say them anywhere. I will not say those Words you twit. I will not, will not sayI quit! Leaving a dark wet stain where your brain used to be? weird..tv? The bank is worth the risk

06-02-05, 07:31 PM	#4
Jackskeleton DVD Talk Godfather Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: City of the lakers.. riots.. and drug dealing cops.. los(t) Angel(e)s. ca. Posts: 52,228	A landing strip can also be used to house/park those ships. So regardless of ships taking off in a horizontal fashion, you will still ned a long strip of land to park/land all those ship. So in a sense, Landing strip does make some sense. Also, The planet is a giant traffic jammed city. I'm pretty sure that you would need to assign special routes so that a ship just doesn't do a vertical climb and takes out a lane of traffic. So a landing strip can be used to channel and controls those such routes. __________________ *OTHER FORUM TEAM 7 leader*I will not say them here nor there. I will not say them anywhere. I will not say those Words you twit. I will not, will not sayI quit! Leaving a dark wet stain where your brain used to be? weird..tv? The bank is worth the risk

06-02-05, 07:42 PM	#6
Jackskeleton DVD Talk Godfather Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: City of the lakers.. riots.. and drug dealing cops.. los(t) Angel(e)s. ca. Posts: 52,228	You got a hanger big enough for those star destroyers to be kept indoors? You saw when Obi was getting into one that there was a huge bridge to the enterence and it was kept outside. Clearly, they need exterior space for the bigger ships. When they are the size of a city you figure that they would be Landed on a [/b]strip[/b]. Regardless if they are taking off in a horizontal or vertical fashion, they take up a lot of space. Especially during a war when they will be on the move at a moments notice. They would need be kept outside and ready for a vertical and then horizontal left off through an assigned route. __________________ *OTHER FORUM TEAM 7 leaderI will not say them here nor there. I will not say them anywhere. I will not say those Words you twit. I will not, will not sayI quit! Leaving a dark wet stain where your brain used to be? weird..tv? The bank is worth the risk Last edited by Jackskeleton; 06-02-05 at 07:44 PM.*

06-02-05, 09:38 PM	#10
mikehunt DVD Talk Hero Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Bartertown due to it having a better economy than where I really live, Buffalo NY Posts: 29,146	the problem here isn't that there was a landing strip, the problem is that the landing strip just happened to be located in exactly the right spot for an uncontrolable piece of falling starship to hit after falling out of orbit __________________ USS Ben Sisko's Mother F***ing Pimp Hand - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tT2Xpfm7Iq8&feature=plcp Vote for freedom not political parties. .... MOΛΩN ΛABE If they had a philosophy. If they weren't too busy gnawing on your insides.

06-02-05, 07:23 PM	#3
GuessWho DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 21,965	All the ships had a vertical takeoff. The landing gears don't even have wheels, much less need a rolling takeoff.

06-02-05, 07:49 PM	#7
Class316 DVD Talk Gold Edition Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,832	It's a landing strip, you need a strip of land to house loads of space ships. Now if they said "runway" then that would be a plot hole.

06-02-05, 07:53 PM	#8
GuessWho DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 21,965	I was definitely thinking runway

06-02-05, 09:43 PM	#11
GuessWho DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 21,965	ah, but how could a starship 'fall' from space instead of just floating away?

06-02-05, 10:25 PM	#12
Michael Corvin DVD Talk Hero Join Date: May 1999 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 44,652	Damn. I thought this was going to be a thread about Padme. __________________ XBOXLive FU Hackers! Now Playing Borderlands 2 Recently Finished Halo 4

06-03-05, 02:18 AM	#16
dogmatica DVD Talk Ultimate Edition Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 4,168	I don't like the landing strip, really. I prefer a trim triangle or bare. __________________ PSN: Spatula _ City \| Just because it's the Internet doesn't mean we can't choose kindness.

06-03-05, 01:41 PM	#19
GuessWho DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 21,965	A landing strip is the same as a runway... just using difefrent words when referring to a takeoff or landing. An aircraft carrier is a mobile runway/landing strip. M-W.com refers you to "airstrip" when you look up "landing strip" -- and the definition is "a runway" The concent is the same: to take off or land, you need a rolling start or rolling end. BUT......... SW ships don't roll. The only purpose is for storage/parking. They just need a "hangar" (indoors) or "parking lot" (outdoors)

06-03-05, 02:48 PM	#22
thephantom Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 192	Wasn't the airstrip flying? I always thought there was some Air Traffic Controller looking at radar going "Oh SHIT!", and they launched the emergency flying landing pad. To me it makes perfect sense. When you have flying machines that are a half mile wide and weigh in at over a million tons, you don't want them smashing into your nice row of mile tall buildings at 800+ miles an hour do you? Doesn't even have to be a war, we know engines cut out and shit.

06-03-05, 09:49 PM	#25
JohnDoeUSA Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 119	This is a great thread because it lets me know that despite what my wife says, I am not the biggest SW geek! Runway this..... Landing strip that......... Rock on fellow SW geeks