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Terrell

Um, as usual you are wrong. You should know what you're talking about before you comment on something as fact. It is an older woman in that mask, and they superimposed moneky eyes over her's. This is a well known fact. Do some research. So much for that!

As for the pictures, you proved my point for me. It's f**king awful and ridiculous looking, and it always was. Not once was that silly looking emperor every creepy looking. But, think what you like.

Sodomy and lighthearted, interesting!

I won't say what I think about all of this "raping my childhood" garbage.

Or, people who've already made their point a few dozen times, don't have to keep making the same exact point over and over in every single thread. Or, how's this for novelty. If you hate the prequels and or the SEs, why bother posting in a thread about them to begin with. Most ordinary people don't waste so much time discussing something they don't like. They make their point and move on.

Trigger, I'll give you an example of what I mean by making your opinion in an adult manner. Take FoK's post as a perfect example.

"I prefer to the original scene. I agree with the others, stating the obvious takes something away from the movie"

I have no problem with his post or his opinion. I had no problem with your opinion either. I did have a problem with the way you phrased it.

Someone needs to balance out the likes of Lara Means and Rivero, who basically take a dump in almost every Star Wars threads.

If you had given up and moved on, you wouldn't have even bothered posting.

Ranger

BWG, I deleted the video, but I don't think it was that big, maybe about 6 mb, perhaps someone can email it to you.

Lara Means

Off Topic a bit, but still about Star Wars.

Here is a clip that has shows all the newly redubbed Boba Fett lines that is now on the Empire DVD. If you didnt know, Temuera Morrison (Jango Fett from Episode 2), has redone all of Boba's lines because Lucas is "bridging the two trilogies."

Gone now is the cool and mysterious voice of Boba. All thats left is a shitty kiwi accent. Why the hell did he have to talk so fast? I can't believe they ruined something as simple and badass as "As you wish"

http://s95053774.onlinehome.us/BobaPsychotic.mpg


Also, here is the link for the entire new ending for JEDI. See the Naboo celebration and the Hayden/Anakin addition at the end. If you don't get picture then I guess you need the Xvid codec.

http://aptirrelevance.com/gupta/rotj-ending.avi

duff beer

Terrell, more people think it's creepy than you.

Trigger

I wish the original RotJ song was back with the ewoks going "yuppa yuppa yaieee... YUB YUB" or whatever. The new one is lame. But whatever - it's only the ending scene of the trilogy. It's not like it's a big deal or anything.

The new Fett voice sucks nuts.

thanks for posting those links though.

Terrell

Your point? I don't give a damn whether more people thought the original was creepier. That doesn't make them right in my eyes. I thought it looked like ass, and wasn't creepy at all, and to me, my opinion counts the most.

I liked Revill's voice, but the look and mask was just stupid.

I'll disagree here as well. The Yub-Yub song was just ridiculous. Someone else said it basically took a dump on the entire saga, and they were right. Just an awful song. The new song and ending is vastly superior, in my opinion.

I don't like the Hayden change, didn't like the scream added to Luke's fall, didn't like Greedo shooting first, didn't like Jedi rocks, didn't like the original Emperor, and didn't like the change of Vader's dialogue in ESB, even though the original line "bring my shuttle" made no sense in the context of the film.

Luckily, the Han/Greedo scene is a big improvement over the '97 SE. I still prefer the original scene. Also, the emperor is much better look and is far more consistent than the original. Lucas should have left the dialogue the same though. Also, thank God Lucas removed the scream from Luke's fall. That was the absolute worst change in the SEs. Also, thank God they changed the song at the end of ROTJ and made the ending more fitting and much better.

Trigger

I think the han/greedo scene is a lateral from the 97 SE... I don't see what was wrong with it in the first place. To be honest though, it's so fast one would hardly notice anyway - which is why it was a stupid change to make in the first place and an even dumber change now - all that time wasted moving Han a few inches (which looks pretty bad when held up to close observation) when you could've just reverted the scene back to the way it was since that's what fans wanted. As for the song, I can't help it that I liked the Yub Yub song... I was 9 when I first heard it.

Terrell

Well, if you look at the '97 SE where Greedo shoots first, the new scene is a definite improvement. Not only did they fix the moments at which they fire, they also fixed Han's head from looking like it was conneced to a rubber band. He should have restored the original, but since he wasn't going to do that, I'll gladly accept the improvement.

The Yub-Yub song has some nostalic value, but I like the new one a whole lot better. Either way, Lucas is never going to be able to please every single person, even if he release the originals. You just know someone is still going to find something to complain about. The old saying, you can't please every 100% of the time.

Debaser

Re: Boba Fett

It's fucking horrid.

Apone

Actually it's a Maori accent, either way if the New Emperor and this voice replacement really go on the DVD Trilogy I am not buying it. Too bad for me because I was really looking forward to it... Damn Lucas.

Lara Means

What the hell do you think this thread is for? Laughs? Of course these goddamn changes are on the DVD.

Trigger

Wrong - had he simply never done the SEs in 97 and just maybe cleaned up and restored the prints instead, leaving them in-tact... then releasing them on DVD several years ago, he would've pleased everyone. Hell - If he simply released the originals now alongside these new changed ones, he could please everyone. People could have a choice on what to watch. Who the hell would complain about that? And what would be their complaint? At the very extreme, you may have someone who likes every change except the greedo thing - they could go ahead and make a fan version and splice that scene into the new version and then play it on his computer all day long with a big satisfied grin while wearing his Chewbacca t-shirt.

Let's say your favorite soda is Mountain Dew - if they all of a sudden one day decided to make Mtn Dew Code Broccoli, but instead of just offering it as an option they took away the original Mtn. Dew you were familiar with - wouldn't you be pissed? Otherwise, you wouldn't really care if they made Mtn. Dew Piss Black, as long as you could still get the soda that you loved.

Trigger

ouch... guess Lara Means Business.

Apone

Well I guess this is the end for my SW anticipation. To rest of you guys I admire your willing courage and strength to challenge these changes in purchase. Salute!

*edit* Bah maybe I am acting bit too rigidly must think more about this with a bottle of whiskey.

flyboy

They fixed fucking nothing. The Han/Greedo scene still looks like shit...oh yeah these versions look crystal clear and look better than they ever have..but who gives a fuck as he has not only raped alot of us, he has also raped hollywood and the history of cinema. I am sick and tired of people saying they are HIS films and he can do with them as he pleases!! Bullshit...if he wanted to tinker with them then he sould have kept them at home. He OWES everyone at least a choice in any format...what he is doing is trying to force his revisionist history down our throats! Period! Would it have cost that much more to put the original cuts on these discs as well?

You people think this will be the final cut? Hell no...wait til 2010 or 2015 when he says..."well I wanted to do this in 2004 but we couldn't" because of technology...

He has been flying by the seat of his ass just to try and make the OT fit these lame ass prequels and ruining them in the process...he should have thought about all this stuff 15 or 20 years ago...

IMHO he has ruined any magic that these films had....so sad.

PixyJunket

For real.. what a sad, sad existence.

rennervision

I know all the Lucas Apologists insist a boycott will not make a significant dent in DVD sales on September 21st. At this point, I'm willing to concede they are probably right. (Although I refuse to buy these anymore than I would buy a DVD available only in fullscreen and support an inferior product.)

So at this point, the scenario I'm hoping for is something like this: Joe Sixpack, who doesn't know anything about the constant internet bickering that has gone on since these DVDs were announced, buys his trilogy and pops them in his player. As he sees things like a new Emperor with clumsy dialogue and Hayden Christiansen appearing as a Force ghost, he drops his bag of cheetos and says, "WHAT THE...???" He then returns to Best Buy complaining about how he picked up the wrong set by mistake and wants the original version. Wackiness ensues as an argument breaks out with the return clerk insisting this IS the original version. Soon, retailers all over the country are screaming to Fox about how they've dumped a crap product in their stores and it is taking up too much time explaining to outraged customers this is the only available version. Steven Spielberg, torn between agreeing with his cackling friend George Lucas, or listening to the masses of fans desperate to preserve film history, finally makes the right decision, picks Lucas up, and hurls him down a reactor shaft. The original DVD versions are soon released, and Spielberg offers to finish Episode III as a tribute to Lucas - like he did for Stanley Kubrick with "A.I."

Hey, a similar thing happened when "Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory" was first released. (Except the studio head that released this only in fullscreen didn't get thrown down a reactor shaft - as far as I know.)

cactusoly

Some people are wacked and have way too much time on there hands.

dick_grayson

like George Lucas who, instead of taking screenwriting classes for the new movie, is wasting time fucking up the only good shit he's done.

dhmac

I downloaded both files, but couldn't play them. QT (version 6.5.1) said that the "required compressor could not be found". Anyone else having problems playing these?

kcbrett5

I like the changes. I think they add something to the originals. Every change he makes brings these tired, old looking films more up to date with modern times.

I am 30 years old and as big a fan of the originals as anyone. I have to admit I don't have the time to sit around watching 25 year old movies anymore. So if he does some things to the videos to make them worth watching again for me, I'm thrilled. In this case, I actually will buy the trilogy BECAUSE of the changes, not in spite of. I wasn't planning on picking them up until next year or something. But now I have pre-ordered them.

Mr. Lucas, keep up the good work!!!

kcbrett5

I think the new dialogue is great. The story has always been that Vader didn't know about his children. I'm paraphrasing Obi-wan's ghost here, but he says that the emperor and vader both knew that if anakin had any offspring, they would be a threat to them. That is why the twins were hidden from vader.

What lucas has done here is give the fans a teaser for the new movie. Vader is not going to know Padme is pregnant. He will not see the twins born. Perhaps he may try to kill her and thinks he succeeds. But in any event, we now know that vader never sees his children born.

It also fixes a flaw in the original movies. You never can tell from watching at what point Vader knows that Luke is his son. You only know from the shock of when Vader tells Luke himself. But honestly, does that scene really have any shock value anymore? All of you have seen it and know it so now the movies seem to have a hole. This new dialogue fills in that hole.

I love it

Abob Teff

Actually, that explains A LOT!!! See, Greedo didn't shoot first and miss, he was shooting at Jar Jar!! Lucas never should have digitally edited that out of the original version.

Rivero