Another bad DeNiro film...what a waste of talent.

Jaymole · 04-30-04, 07:20 AM

At one time, Robert DeNiro was my favorite actor. Whenever a new film of his would come out, I always knew that it was worth a look as he always seemed to try and tackle challenging & interesting material. In my mind, he was the greatest actor of his generation, and I looked forward to years and years of great & challenging roles.

Not anymore. Now whenever I see that he has a new film coming out, I automatically think it's going to suck, and in most cases I'm right (his new film, Godsend has gotten brutal reviews). I can't remember the last film he was in that I really enjoyed. Here is an actor who has totally given up on his craft and instead gone for the easy roles & easy money. He has become a joke, and a lazy one at that (ie: Scorcese offered him a role in Gangs of NY, but he declined because he did not want to have to travel to Italy).

Very, very sad.

LiquidSky · 04-30-04, 07:32 AM

While I'll give him the benefit of the doubt about "Gangs of NY" (perhaps there are unknown reasons why he did not want to travel), there is no denying that he has made a string of crappy films.

Nicholson has also made a string of bad films in which he just "got by playing Jack". Thank God he came to his senses and made "The Pledge". It was great seeing him actually take on a challenging role and act again.

Giantrobo · 04-30-04, 07:34 AM

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Originally posted by LiquidSky
WhThank God he came to his senses and made "The Pledge". It was great seeing him actually take on a challenging role and act again.

I thought that movie was hated by the critics?

LiquidSky · 04-30-04, 07:55 AM

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Originally posted by Giantrobo
I thought that movie was hated by the critics?

I just checked Rotten Tomatoes. It got a 76% Fresh rating. Personally, I thought it was an excellent film.

matome · 04-30-04, 08:06 AM

His last good film was Ronin, IMO. Meet the Parents was pretty decent for his comedic roles.

RyoHazuki · 04-30-04, 08:40 AM

Shark Tale is coming soon.

Frank TJ Mackey · 04-30-04, 11:04 AM

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Originally posted by LiquidSky
While I'll give him the benefit of the doubt about "Gangs of NY" (perhaps there are unknown reasons why he did not want to travel), there is no denying that he has made a string of crappy films.

Nicholson has also made a string of bad films in which he just "got by playing Jack". Thank God he came to his senses and made "The Pledge". It was great seeing him actually take on a challenging role and act again.

I wouldn't even begin to compare Jack Nicholson's so-called failures, i'm assuming you're referring to AS GOOD AS IT GETS and SOMETHING'S GOTTA GIVE, to DeNiro's true crap of late (Bullwinkle, Analyze That, Godsend etc).

I think Jack's are just really lighthearted romantic comedies, they aren't dramas or to be taken seriously.

And what's wrong with him just being Jack, it obviously works ok for him.

As for DeNiro, his just seems to be a case of selecting really horrible projects. The first ANALYZE movie was the only one I even found tolerable.

tsamfan · 04-30-04, 11:09 AM

I enjoyed his performance in The Score with Edward Norton, but 15 Minutes was cringe-worthy.

QuiGonJosh · 04-30-04, 11:11 AM

DeNiro aint made a good movie outside of Ronin since Casino...and we all know why that was good...Scorcese...I dont know what it is...but he just really pisses me off nowadays...just lookin at him pisses me off...I guess cause of all those great roles he had...and then now...so sad...

rushmore223 · 04-30-04, 11:22 AM

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Originally posted by LiquidSky
While I'll give him the benefit of the doubt about "Gangs of NY" (perhaps there are unknown reasons why he did not want to travel), there is no denying that he has made a string of crappy films.

Nicholson has also made a string of bad films in which he just "got by playing Jack". Thank God he came to his senses and made "The Pledge". It was great seeing him actually take on a challenging role and act again.

AAARRRGGGGHHHH!!!!

I hated The Pledge soooo much! It goes down in my book as having the worst, and most anti climactic ending I have ever seen!

Spoiler:

This is the absolute WORST ending ever! Made the ending to The Abyss look like pulitzer prize winning material.

On topic, I will say theat while unfortunate, Godsend being bad really doesnt surprise me.

LiquidSky · 04-30-04, 12:02 PM

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Originally posted by Frank TJ Mackey
And what's wrong with him just being Jack, it obviously works ok for him.

Because I hate seeing an actor I know can act just telephone in a performance......and get an Oscar for it ("As Good As It Gets"). Just a personal opinion.

chanster · 04-30-04, 12:02 PM

De Niro seems to be more interested in a paycheck than real acting lately. Perhaps to fund his film festival, but probably more likely just for the cash.

Rocky and Bullwinkle?
Analyze That? (Anaylze This was pretty sub-par but its sequel takes the case
15 minutes?
Showtime?

The Score was decent though. I thought Meet the Parents was hillarious.

LiquidSky · 04-30-04, 12:04 PM

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Originally posted by rushmore223
AAARRRGGGGHHHH!!!!

I hated The Pledge soooo much! It goes down in my book as having the worst, and most anti climactic ending I have ever seen!

Spoiler:

In the end Nicholson gets ready to confront the bad guy that he has been chasing for all this time, but on his way to the confrontation the villain dies in a car accident! Nicholson then goes crazy. The End! WTF!!!! Did the writer get fired towards the end?

This is the absolute WORST ending ever! Made the ending to The Abyss look like pulitzer prize winning material.

On topic, I will say theat while unfortunate, Godsend being bad really doesnt surprise me.

The "worst ending EVER"? That seems a bit over dramatic.

Sounds to me like you just hate

Spoiler:

I think it's an excellent film.

Seantn · 04-30-04, 12:51 PM

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Sounds to me like you just hate that the killer got away

Umm....

Spoiler:

filmerp · 04-30-04, 12:55 PM

Spoiler:

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Originally posted by Seantn
Umm....

Spoiler:

He didn't get away. He died in a horrible car accident.

LiquidSky · 04-30-04, 01:50 PM

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Originally posted by Seantn
Umm....

Spoiler:

He didn't get away. He died in a horrible car accident.

hmmmm...I thought it ended the other way. At any rate, I think Nicholson's performance is excellent in the film.

conscience · 04-30-04, 03:57 PM

I am not sure what is up with Robert De Niro...but, please, those of you who say Jack Nicholson is "just playing Jack"...put in a good word for me with him...since you obviously know him so well.

Rivero · 04-30-04, 05:47 PM

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Originally posted by rushmore223
I hated The Pledge soooo much! It goes down in my book as having the worst, and most anti climactic ending I have ever seen!

Spoiler:

In the end Nicholson gets ready to confront the bad guy that he has been chasing for all this time, but on his way to the confrontation the villain dies in a car accident! Nicholson then goes crazy. The End! WTF!!!! Did the writer get fired towards the end?

This is the absolute WORST ending ever! Made the ending to The Abyss look like pulitzer prize winning material.

I thought this ending was terrific, very tragic, upsetting and powerful. A terrific movie that proves that Sean Penn is just as talented behind the camera as he is in front of it.

Rivero · 04-30-04, 05:49 PM

Has EVERYONE on this board already forgotten about Nicholson's fantastic (yes, fantastic) performance in About Schmidt from just....what....a year and a half ago!??

Jesus.

Rival11 · 04-30-04, 05:56 PM

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Originally posted by Jaymole
At one time, Robert DeNiro was my favorite actor. Whenever a new film of his would come out, I always knew that it was worth a look as he always seemed to try and tackle challenging & interesting material. In my mind, he was the greatest actor of his generation, and I looked forward to years and years of great & challenging roles.

Not anymore. Now whenever I see that he has a new film coming out, I automatically think it's going to suck, and in most cases I'm right (his new film, Godsend has gotten brutal reviews). I can't remember the last film he was in that I really enjoyed. Here is an actor who has totally given up on his craft and instead gone for the easy roles & easy money. He has become a joke, and a lazy one at that (ie: Scorcese offered him a role in Gangs of NY, but he declined because he did not want to have to travel to Italy).

Very, very sad.

couldn't agree more, he's not working anymore he's collecting.

nemein · 04-30-04, 05:57 PM

Personally I've always thought DeNiro was a one talent actor. I mean you get him in the right role he's going to be wonderful and it's going to be a great movie (Ronin for example). You go against "type" though and he's lost, I thought all his "comedic" attempts were horrible.

nightmaster · 04-30-04, 07:07 PM

For as long as I can remember I've loved DeNiro and would have given him kudos over Jack at any given time......however this past year I've been giving Nicholson the benefit of a doubt and watching alot of his movies that had slipped through my viewing cracks. I agree. A 'bad' Nicholson movie is 3 times better than a bad DeNiro movie, and Nicholson is still putting forth wonderful performances. A best actor nomination as recently as a year ago; when's the last time DeNiro got a nomination?? Raging Bull is one of my ALL TIME favorite movies, but thats eons ago at this point. Ronin was indeed a great film, and I like Meet The Parents and Analyse That, both fun movies.......but he's just 'being DeNiro' for laughs ala his Scorcese fims in both. Somebody needs to send him a script worth his talent.

Rivero · 04-30-04, 07:18 PM

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Originally posted by nemein
Personally I've always thought DeNiro was a one talent actor. I mean you get him in the right role he's going to be wonderful and it's going to be a great movie (Ronin for example). You go against "type" though and he's lost, I thought all his "comedic" attempts were horrible.

Amazing. Absolutely amazing.

De Niro, one of the greats, a "ONE-TALENT"???! Check the man out in The King of Comedy, The Mission, Awakenings, and Mad Dog and Glory.

Jesus, some people.....

nemein · 04-30-04, 07:40 PM

I have seen The Mission and I enjoyed it but he's still essentially playing the "tough guy", Jeremy Irons is the one who really makes that movie IMHO. I think I've seen Awakenings but if I have I don't recall much about it. I admit I haven't seen the other two (or certainly all of his movie). I also admit I might be over reacting a bit to his recent comedic roles (which I just think he has no talent for) but while I've always thought he was a good actor (maybe even one of the "greats") I've always found his range rather limited. JMO

Apone · 04-30-04, 07:42 PM

I hardly watch any new movies featuring De Niro. Not that I am disappointed with his current works but because I am just not interested.

04-30-04, 07:20 AM	#1
Jaymole DVD Talk Limited Edition Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: N.Y, N.Y Posts: 5,244	Another bad DeNiro film...what a waste of talent. At one time, Robert DeNiro was my favorite actor. Whenever a new film of his would come out, I always knew that it was worth a look as he always seemed to try and tackle challenging & interesting material. In my mind, he was the greatest actor of his generation, and I looked forward to years and years of great & challenging roles. Not anymore. Now whenever I see that he has a new film coming out, I automatically think it's going to suck, and in most cases I'm right (his new film, Godsend has gotten brutal reviews). I can't remember the last film he was in that I really enjoyed. Here is an actor who has totally given up on his craft and instead gone for the easy roles & easy money. He has become a joke, and a lazy one at that (ie: Scorcese offered him a role in Gangs of NY, but he declined because he did not want to have to travel to Italy). Very, very sad. __________________ Seeegnature? I don't I have to show you any steeenkin seeegnature!

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conscience DVD Talk Hall of Fame Join Date: Jul 1999 Posts: 8,262	I am not sure what is up with Robert De Niro...but, please, those of you who say Jack Nicholson is "just playing Jack"...put in a good word for me with him...since you obviously know him so well. __________________ You can't take a picture of this. It's already gone. - Nate Fisher, Six Feet Under

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nemein Moderator Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: 1bit away from total disaster Posts: 33,284	Personally I've always thought DeNiro was a one talent actor. I mean you get him in the right role he's going to be wonderful and it's going to be a great movie (Ronin for example). You go against "type" though and he's lost, I thought all his "comedic" attempts were horrible. __________________ "The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism, but under the name of liberalism, they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program until one day America will be a socialist nation without ever knowing how it happened." -- Norman Thomas, Socialist Party of America God grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked, the good fortune to run into the ones I do, and the eyesight to tell the difference. My Countdown Counting down to: End of the countdown clock 2778 days 20 hours 5 minutes

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LiquidSky DVD Talk Hall of Fame Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: Pokey Dot Lounge, Nashville, TN Posts: 8,712	While I'll give him the benefit of the doubt about "Gangs of NY" (perhaps there are unknown reasons why he did not want to travel), there is no denying that he has made a string of crappy films. Nicholson has also made a string of bad films in which he just "got by playing Jack". Thank God he came to his senses and made "The Pledge". It was great seeing him actually take on a challenging role and act again.

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tsamfan Needs to contact an admin about multiple accounts Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 32	I enjoyed his performance in The Score with Edward Norton, but 15 Minutes was cringe-worthy.

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QuiGonJosh Banned Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,220	DeNiro aint made a good movie outside of Ronin since Casino...and we all know why that was good...Scorcese...I dont know what it is...but he just really pisses me off nowadays...just lookin at him pisses me off...I guess cause of all those great roles he had...and then now...so sad...

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chanster DVD Talk Hall of Fame Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 9,312	De Niro seems to be more interested in a paycheck than real acting lately. Perhaps to fund his film festival, but probably more likely just for the cash. Rocky and Bullwinkle? Analyze That? (Anaylze This was pretty sub-par but its sequel takes the case 15 minutes? Showtime? The Score was decent though. I thought Meet the Parents was hillarious.

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Rivero Banned Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Germantown Maryland Posts: 2,488	Has EVERYONE on this board already forgotten about Nicholson's fantastic (yes, fantastic) performance in About Schmidt from just....what....a year and a half ago!?? Jesus.

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nightmaster DVD Talk Special Edition Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Archives, Indiana Posts: 1,758	For as long as I can remember I've loved DeNiro and would have given him kudos over Jack at any given time......however this past year I've been giving Nicholson the benefit of a doubt and watching alot of his movies that had slipped through my viewing cracks. I agree. A 'bad' Nicholson movie is 3 times better than a bad DeNiro movie, and Nicholson is still putting forth wonderful performances. A best actor nomination as recently as a year ago; when's the last time DeNiro got a nomination?? Raging Bull is one of my ALL TIME favorite movies, but thats eons ago at this point. Ronin was indeed a great film, and I like Meet The Parents and Analyse That, both fun movies.......but he's just 'being DeNiro' for laughs ala his Scorcese fims in both. Somebody needs to send him a script worth his talent.

04-30-04, 07:40 PM	#24
nemein Moderator Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: 1bit away from total disaster Posts: 33,284	I have seen The Mission and I enjoyed it but he's still essentially playing the "tough guy", Jeremy Irons is the one who really makes that movie IMHO. I think I've seen Awakenings but if I have I don't recall much about it. I admit I haven't seen the other two (or certainly all of his movie). I also admit I might be over reacting a bit to his recent comedic roles (which I just think he has no talent for) but while I've always thought he was a good actor (maybe even one of the "greats") I've always found his range rather limited. JMO __________________ "The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism, but under the name of liberalism, they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program until one day America will be a socialist nation without ever knowing how it happened." -- Norman Thomas, Socialist Party of America God grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked, the good fortune to run into the ones I do, and the eyesight to tell the difference. My Countdown Counting down to: End of the countdown clock 2778 days 20 hours 5 minutes Last edited by nemein; 04-30-04 at 07:45 PM.

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Apone Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 820	I hardly watch any new movies featuring De Niro. Not that I am disappointed with his current works but because I am just not interested.