PopcornTreeCt

Movies that try to be serious and come off being horribly pretentious or movies that you pretty much know aren't gonna be great but still turn out to be ok (action, comedy). I think the serious movies that turn out to be totally crap is worse even though those movies will find its faithful critics. What do you think?

TopHatCat64

Probably a serious movie that ends up pretenious because well, pretenious movies are annoying and worthy of much scorn. So if it's a scale it starts out potentially good but its dragged down to slightly below average or worse.

Crappy looking action/comedies that turn out decent on the otherhand, start out low on the scale and bring it back to slightly above average. Usually a movie good enough for "watch once and forget about it".

NitroJMS

Another vote for the crappy-looking movie that turns out ok.

Rivero

The crappy-looking movie that turns out decent, simply because there are so f***** many of those. At least movies that strive to be about something are trying. Usually they get shot down initially, especially by most moviegoers in this country who eat up fast-food, forgettable movies in droves, but then sometimes they get a strong following of ardent fans, cult-status( ie. Blade Runner, The Thin Red Line.

PixyJunket

Somebody must've just seen Matrix Reloaded.

I loathe movies and other forms of entertainment media that are pretentious. Crappy/OK movies are easy enough to filter and/or forget.. but pretentious movies tend to have this rabid following of 15 year olds trying to analyze pre-teen nonsensical stringing together of intellectual words as meaningful philosophy. Not only does having this banter passed to me as sophisticated dialogue bother me, but seeing so many people actually believe it is sophisticated dialogue boils me good.

Of course, almost all analytical discussion or deciphering of symbolism in entertainment mediums aggravates me. All it takes is a BS in BS and you're all of a sudden an elegant intellectual.

PopcornTreeCt

Well said. Although my post wasn't in reference to Matrix Reloaded. I can't stand it when people try to quote movies they think are GREAT that just plain out suck. I'm just like "Hey I didn't fall for it, the joke's on you!"

Corvin

While film is an entertainment media, it is also an art media. Because of this, I don't find all analytical discussion or deciphering of symbolism aggravating because in many films it isn't BS, but relevant---and sometimes downright necessary.