Is the American release of Shaolin Soccer edited?
04-02-04, 11:48 AM
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I've heard it was both.
According to IMDB:
111 min / Hong Kong:102 min (DVD version) / USA:87 min
Looks like 24 minutes have been cut from the US version.
Weird that the DVD version is even cut.
According to IMDB:
111 min / Hong Kong:102 min (DVD version) / USA:87 min
Looks like 24 minutes have been cut from the US version.
Weird that the DVD version is even cut.
Last edited by DodgingCars; 04-02-04 at 11:50 AM.
04-02-04, 11:56 AM
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I found this in the NYT review:
"Soccer" was released in Hong Kong in 2001, and was available on DVD until nearly a year ago. Miramax bought it, tricked it up with new, simplified subtitles and scissored nearly half an hour of jagged subplots and brawling that might have compromised a get-'em-into-the-tent PG-13. To compensate, new music and English-language signs and graphics have been added, so the film seems to take place in an even odder world than most Hong Kong action epics.
Looks like there is subtitles... but it has definately been cut.
"Soccer" was released in Hong Kong in 2001, and was available on DVD until nearly a year ago. Miramax bought it, tricked it up with new, simplified subtitles and scissored nearly half an hour of jagged subplots and brawling that might have compromised a get-'em-into-the-tent PG-13. To compensate, new music and English-language signs and graphics have been added, so the film seems to take place in an even odder world than most Hong Kong action epics.
Looks like there is subtitles... but it has definately been cut.
04-02-04, 06:20 PM
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Originally posted by DodgingCars
According to IMDB:
111 min / Hong Kong:102 min (DVD version) / USA:87 min
Looks like 24 minutes have been cut from the US version.
Weird that the DVD version is even cut.
According to IMDB:
111 min / Hong Kong:102 min (DVD version) / USA:87 min
Looks like 24 minutes have been cut from the US version.
Weird that the DVD version is even cut.
The HK DVD contains the original cut of the film. However, the extended scenes are available to view in an "Infinafilm" style feature where you press play when an icon shows up while watching the film, and the player branches off to play the extended scene. The Korean DVD does the same thing, except the logos don't show up when you have subtitles on.
As for the most recent Miramax version of the film: It's in its original language with English subtitles, but it is also edited down to 87 minutes.
04-02-04, 06:37 PM
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I just find this amazing. It's like Miramax feels compelled to cut something out of every foreign movie they release (except Amelie). There must be other companies out there willing to distribute foreign films that should try and compete with Miramax.
04-02-04, 07:02 PM
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Originally posted by Suprmallet
There must be other companies out there willing to distribute foreign films that should try and compete with Miramax.
There must be other companies out there willing to distribute foreign films that should try and compete with Miramax.
04-02-04, 07:53 PM
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Originally posted by Suprmallet
I just find this amazing. It's like Miramax feels compelled to cut something out of every foreign movie they release (except Amelie). There must be other companies out there willing to distribute foreign films that should try and compete with Miramax.
I just find this amazing. It's like Miramax feels compelled to cut something out of every foreign movie they release (except Amelie). There must be other companies out there willing to distribute foreign films that should try and compete with Miramax.
04-02-04, 08:11 PM
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Originally posted by Rypro 525
well city of god was left untouched at least (too bad they didn't open it wide to let alot of people see it.
well city of god was left untouched at least (too bad they didn't open it wide to let alot of people see it.
04-02-04, 08:38 PM
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I'm at a loss as to what they could actually cut out of the movie; an earlier post said something about "jagged subplots," but I really can't think of any offhand that were especially complicated or drawn-out, and the violence in the movie is minimal and cartoonish ...
04-02-04, 10:19 PM
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How the heck can they cut 20+ minutes of this film??? I loved every minute of this movie, I bought the DVD and must have watched it 5 times because it is so hilarious and definitely one of Stephen Chow's Best (go see God of Cookery for another one of his).
Anyway, it is too bad, they censored and cut it. What a joke, why even bother, really?
Anyway, it is too bad, they censored and cut it. What a joke, why even bother, really?
04-03-04, 03:44 AM
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Originally posted by Jay G.
There were two versions of this film released to Hong Kong theatres, an original cut of 102 minutes, and an extended cut of 111 minutes. The extended cut added in two new scenes as well as an outtake reel.
The HK DVD contains the original cut of the film. However, the extended scenes are available to view in an "Infinafilm" style feature where you press play when an icon shows up while watching the film, and the player branches off to play the extended scene. The Korean DVD does the same thing, except the logos don't show up when you have subtitles on.
As for the most recent Miramax version of the film: It's in its original language with English subtitles, but it is also edited down to 87 minutes.
There were two versions of this film released to Hong Kong theatres, an original cut of 102 minutes, and an extended cut of 111 minutes. The extended cut added in two new scenes as well as an outtake reel.
The HK DVD contains the original cut of the film. However, the extended scenes are available to view in an "Infinafilm" style feature where you press play when an icon shows up while watching the film, and the player branches off to play the extended scene. The Korean DVD does the same thing, except the logos don't show up when you have subtitles on.
As for the most recent Miramax version of the film: It's in its original language with English subtitles, but it is also edited down to 87 minutes.
I don't know if it's still true, but I think MiramAxe also did some CG editing of their own - for example, they added undies to the goalie who gets his clothes blown off... that might have just been in the trailer though. I don't think i'll see this in theaters - I've supported this film by purchasing 3 DVDs of it (one for a friend) and a VCD (before it was available on DVD). I don't want to support Miramax on this - and they've already paid out Stephen Chow or whoever, so it's not like he'll get any more money from me seeing it. I am gonna silently protest this release by not attending... send a tiny message to Miramax that they should leave these films alone and just let me import them.
04-03-04, 03:47 AM
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Originally posted by Trigger
I don't want to support Miramax on this - and they've already paid out Stephen Chow or whoever, so it's not like he'll get any more money from me seeing it. I am gonna silently protest this release by not attending... send a tiny message to Miramax that they should leave these films alone and just let me import them.
I don't want to support Miramax on this - and they've already paid out Stephen Chow or whoever, so it's not like he'll get any more money from me seeing it. I am gonna silently protest this release by not attending... send a tiny message to Miramax that they should leave these films alone and just let me import them.
04-03-04, 08:29 AM
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Originally posted by profbobo
I'm at a loss as to what they could actually cut out of the movie;
I'm at a loss as to what they could actually cut out of the movie;
http://www.monkeypeaches.com/020705B.html
It's not 100% accurate. Miramax made some changes to the film since this report, such as changing the title back to Shaolin Soccer, adding back in some violence to make the film PG-13, and possibly adding the song "Kung-Fu Fighting" to the credits
Originally posted by Trigger
Also - the Extended version was released to HK theaters as a second run of the film after the shorter version had its run... iirc.
Also - the Extended version was released to HK theaters as a second run of the film after the shorter version had its run... iirc.
I don't know if it's still true, but I think MiramAxe also did some CG editing of their own - for example,
... that might have just been in the trailer though.
Spoiler:
I am gonna silently protest this release by not attending... send a tiny message to Miramax that they should leave these films alone and just let me import them.
