Dawn of the Dead Remake - See the First 10 Minutes Uncut & Uncensored...
03-16-04, 09:09 AM
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From what I recall, it bearly lingered in the danger zone and some slight gore was held back and will be seeing the light of day on a unrated dvd.
03-16-04, 11:55 AM
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Well, I saw it last night. (The first 10 minutes at least)...
This isn't "Dawn of the Dead", heck it doesn't even look like a zombie film. It looks like a decent sequel to "28 Days Later". Based on the first 10 minutes, they should've called this thing "Another 28 Days Later: America". Or perhaps, "Nightmare City 2: Electric Boogaloo".
The zombies move WAY too fast... startlingly fast. Their eyes change to a reddish/orange. They seem to GAIN strength.
ah well... no big surprises here. I'll catch it at a cheapo matinee though.
This isn't "Dawn of the Dead", heck it doesn't even look like a zombie film. It looks like a decent sequel to "28 Days Later". Based on the first 10 minutes, they should've called this thing "Another 28 Days Later: America". Or perhaps, "Nightmare City 2: Electric Boogaloo".
The zombies move WAY too fast... startlingly fast. Their eyes change to a reddish/orange. They seem to GAIN strength.
ah well... no big surprises here. I'll catch it at a cheapo matinee though.
03-16-04, 11:59 AM
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Originally posted by RichC2
So ... are they actually zombies or just highly diseased individuals?
So ... are they actually zombies or just highly diseased individuals?
03-16-04, 12:00 PM
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any word if the the MPAA had a field day with this and cut the film of it's excess gore?
any word if the the MPAA had a field day with this and cut the film of it's excess gore?
During the press junket for the upcomig remake of Dawn of the Dead, director Zack Snyder revealed that he had to make more than a few cuts to his film in order to recieve and R-rating from the Motion Picture Association of America. "We went back and forth with the MPAA about four or five times before we got our R, but eventually we did," Snyder told reporters. The neophyte filmmaker also promised that the deleted material will appear in an extended version DVD release. "We will do an unrated DVD that will probably have an additional five minutes of gore, and then another five minutes of more character," he said. "Not that anyone wants that, but that's what they're going to get".
03-16-04, 12:19 PM
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Originally posted by Drop
Okay I'll bite that you can smash your head through a door. But I'd like for someone to confirm that the muscles in your neck could actually allow this. Now I'm not saying go and do this, but maybe someone knows about how muscles work. The muscles in your legs are must be different than the ones in your neck.
Also, there is no what you could do that to the doors in my house, I've acutually tried to punch and kick through them (you know fits of anger), than again my house is fairly old, and the doors were made back in the day, when they were meant to be strong.
Okay I'll bite that you can smash your head through a door. But I'd like for someone to confirm that the muscles in your neck could actually allow this. Now I'm not saying go and do this, but maybe someone knows about how muscles work. The muscles in your legs are must be different than the ones in your neck.
Also, there is no what you could do that to the doors in my house, I've acutually tried to punch and kick through them (you know fits of anger), than again my house is fairly old, and the doors were made back in the day, when they were meant to be strong.
03-16-04, 12:21 PM
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Originally posted by sracer
This isn't "Dawn of the Dead", heck it doesn't even look like a zombie film. It looks like a decent sequel to "28 Days Later".
This isn't "Dawn of the Dead", heck it doesn't even look like a zombie film. It looks like a decent sequel to "28 Days Later".
03-16-04, 12:21 PM
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Originally posted by Mondo Kane
From DavisDvD:
During the press junket for the upcomig remake of Dawn of the Dead, director Zack Snyder revealed that he had to make more than a few cuts to his film in order to recieve and R-rating from the Motion Picture Association of America. "We went back and forth with the MPAA about four or five times before we got our R, but eventually we did," Snyder told reporters. The neophyte filmmaker also promised that the deleted material will appear in an extended version DVD release. "We will do an unrated DVD that will probably have an additional five minutes of gore, and then another five minutes of more character," he said. "Not that anyone wants that, but that's what they're going to get".
From DavisDvD:
During the press junket for the upcomig remake of Dawn of the Dead, director Zack Snyder revealed that he had to make more than a few cuts to his film in order to recieve and R-rating from the Motion Picture Association of America. "We went back and forth with the MPAA about four or five times before we got our R, but eventually we did," Snyder told reporters. The neophyte filmmaker also promised that the deleted material will appear in an extended version DVD release. "We will do an unrated DVD that will probably have an additional five minutes of gore, and then another five minutes of more character," he said. "Not that anyone wants that, but that's what they're going to get".
03-16-04, 12:29 PM
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I enjoyed the first 8 minutes. Good action, effects, and whatnot. But, this'll be more 28 Days Later than DotD. Nothing wrong with that, I suppose. I like how they showed the destruction and "zombies" going right after the living people.
The quick transformation and what seemed like increased strength/speed was a little odd. However, again, it's more 28 Days Later, so I suppose this shouldn't be surprising.
The quick transformation and what seemed like increased strength/speed was a little odd. However, again, it's more 28 Days Later, so I suppose this shouldn't be surprising.
03-16-04, 12:36 PM
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This movie looks kickass!
Here's a link to it (on my server
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http://www.coldchillin.net/downloads/dotd8kbps384.wmv
This movie looks kickass!
Here's a link to it (on my server
)http://www.coldchillin.net/downloads/dotd8kbps384.wmv
03-16-04, 12:50 PM
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If "Dawn of the Dead" (2004) wasn't inspired, even partially, by "The Return of the Living Dead", I'd be shocked. "Return.." was the first to use fast/running zombies way back in 1985.
03-16-04, 02:30 PM
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Originally posted by DVD Smurf
The Sternocleidomastoid is the muscle that is connected to the clavicle and below and rear of the ears (the name of the portion of the skull escapes me.) This muscle aids in rotation of the neck as well as flexion of the neck. Football players frequently uses this when they collide even if this is dangerous and illegal. If you know what I talk about watch Lattimer in The Program as he expresses his happiness of being a starter. However, I believe that the zombie (ex-husband) did use his legs and trunk while grabbing on to the broken portion of the door when he threw his head into the door. I also believe that many doors are paper-thin houses such as that one as it is newly built in a suburban area. In my old place, my front door was scary thin... Oh well, I hope you like the film for what it is...
The Sternocleidomastoid is the muscle that is connected to the clavicle and below and rear of the ears (the name of the portion of the skull escapes me.) This muscle aids in rotation of the neck as well as flexion of the neck. Football players frequently uses this when they collide even if this is dangerous and illegal. If you know what I talk about watch Lattimer in The Program as he expresses his happiness of being a starter. However, I believe that the zombie (ex-husband) did use his legs and trunk while grabbing on to the broken portion of the door when he threw his head into the door. I also believe that many doors are paper-thin houses such as that one as it is newly built in a suburban area. In my old place, my front door was scary thin... Oh well, I hope you like the film for what it is...
Either way, I am pretty shocked this is getting so much support. Someone even claimed on another forum the 10 minutes were better than the original, that's just silly to me. It's not even a complete story. I have no problem with the remake to begin with(and the original is my favorite film ever), the only thing in common, is zombies (which aren't even similar other than being dead), the mall, and the name. The only things that really bug me about it, is that Romero sees no money and his Dead film is pushed to the side while this is made.
On another note, I never really found any of the Dead movies scary. Well, maybe Day, but only a little. It's the ideas, the situations, characters (that includes the zombies), and gore that make these films interesting. Now with this remake, it's obviously supposed to be scary. The first 10 minutes did little for me. I felt no tension, I saw all the jumps coming, I did not like any of the characters, the zombie makeup seemed pretty mediocre, and the CGI was pretty laughable. I smiled at the GON whirlybird cameo, which looked pretty silly and fake, but was cool anyway.
Nonetheless, I will see it this Friday, and just hope that the 80+ more minutes are better. It's a zombie movie, it can't be all that bad.
03-16-04, 03:19 PM
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There is a good number of shambling zombies in the film.
As for the quick transformation, Any decent zombie flick will show that it all depends on the bites the victim gets and how long it takes them to die. The husband got it in the neck. he was dead within minutes and easily turned quickly. Where as if you get biten in the hand and how deep it actually is would depend on how long you will turn then.
As for the quick transformation, Any decent zombie flick will show that it all depends on the bites the victim gets and how long it takes them to die. The husband got it in the neck. he was dead within minutes and easily turned quickly. Where as if you get biten in the hand and how deep it actually is would depend on how long you will turn then.
03-16-04, 03:41 PM
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Originally posted by Drop
Either way, I am pretty shocked this is getting so much support. Someone even claimed on another forum the 10 minutes were better than the original, that's just silly to me. It's not even a complete story. I have no problem with the remake to begin with(and the original is my favorite film ever), the only thing in common, is zombies (which aren't even similar other than being dead), the mall, and the name. The only things that really bug me about it, is that Romero sees no money and his Dead film is pushed to the side while this is made.
Either way, I am pretty shocked this is getting so much support. Someone even claimed on another forum the 10 minutes were better than the original, that's just silly to me. It's not even a complete story. I have no problem with the remake to begin with(and the original is my favorite film ever), the only thing in common, is zombies (which aren't even similar other than being dead), the mall, and the name. The only things that really bug me about it, is that Romero sees no money and his Dead film is pushed to the side while this is made.
And regarding the running zombies...they make more than enough sense. They haven't gone into rigor mortis, they're dead so they don't feel the pain of crashing through things (yes, they would break their hand or whatever...but it would'nt hurt, and they could still keep moving like normal zombies). As long as they al can't run like the husband, it's cool with me. That husband was a fresh zombie so it made sense.
03-16-04, 04:23 PM
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I loved it....
JackSkeleton, you and I have both seen the film already....
Did you find it funny that USA advertised this as the first 8 minutes completely UNCUT AND UNCENSORED....but it was cut!
Remember when Anna is stuck behind the bus, and that naked zombie chick walks right up to her car....That wasn't in the USA version.
JackSkeleton, you and I have both seen the film already....
Did you find it funny that USA advertised this as the first 8 minutes completely UNCUT AND UNCENSORED....but it was cut!
Remember when Anna is stuck behind the bus, and that naked zombie chick walks right up to her car....That wasn't in the USA version.
03-16-04, 06:16 PM
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Originally posted by Seantn
Remember when Anna is stuck behind the bus, and that naked zombie chick walks right up to her car....That wasn't in the USA version.
Remember when Anna is stuck behind the bus, and that naked zombie chick walks right up to her car....That wasn't in the USA version.
03-16-04, 06:18 PM
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You know what though? I'm glad this is supposed to be good. Because not only do I love a good zombie flick, but if this does well box office wise, I think the chance Romero will get the money he needs to make Dead Reckoning or Dead 4 or whatever will go up quite a bit. While I would've preferred to see a 45 million dollar Romero zombie flick, I'll take this instead...and hope it does well and paves the way for Romero to get his big budget zombie movie.
You know what though? I'm glad this is supposed to be good. Because not only do I love a good zombie flick, but if this does well box office wise, I think the chance Romero will get the money he needs to make Dead Reckoning or Dead 4 or whatever will go up quite a bit. While I would've preferred to see a 45 million dollar Romero zombie flick, I'll take this instead...and hope it does well and paves the way for Romero to get his big budget zombie movie.
The success of "Resident Evil" and "28 Days Later" didn't do it... what did we get in return? Swill like "Children of the Living Dead" and "House of the Dead"....and...
...this tripe known as "Dawn of the Dead (2004)"... a cynical moneygrab to cash in the name of a cult classic.
Romero will never get the money he needs to do his project his way... never. why? Because (A) he is a hollywood outsider, AND, (B) because the studios can dredge up any ole junk of a screenplay, throw a "hip" director at it, and one or 2 "name" actors, and turn a quick profit because the moviegoing audiences don't care about a good zombie film.
Why would they pay for Romero and cater to his demands, when they can get "Mr. Scooby Do" cheaper and with less hassles? People will pay to see the end result no matter what.
Just consider the fact that the studios would rather do a "remake" using a fluff director, than hire the original creator to do his sequel....
03-16-04, 09:07 PM
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I've seen the film and I don't remember a naked zombie... but I could've missed it
03-16-04, 09:27 PM
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i just saw it tonight and there was no naked zombie.
i'm of the opinion that sucess of this remake "might", not will, give Dead Reckoning a push. i would love for dawn of the dead (04) to become a franchise. i suppose it would get old after awhile, but i would drool over two more films set during the "Dawn" time frame of the dead rising. and another possibility would be the eventual Day of the Dead remake. and that is any interesting thought since they could remake the script and not what was filmed.
i'm of the opinion that sucess of this remake "might", not will, give Dead Reckoning a push. i would love for dawn of the dead (04) to become a franchise. i suppose it would get old after awhile, but i would drool over two more films set during the "Dawn" time frame of the dead rising. and another possibility would be the eventual Day of the Dead remake. and that is any interesting thought since they could remake the script and not what was filmed.
03-16-04, 10:37 PM
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Darn. Now I'm starting to wonder what else might have been cut....
I'm seeing it on Thursday, so i'll find out then.
I also notice in the first 10 minutes another difference....
Oh, and VENOM, question for you!
Did they keep the credit sequence
in the movie?
I'm seeing it on Thursday, so i'll find out then.
I also notice in the first 10 minutes another difference....
Spoiler:
Oh, and VENOM, question for you!
Did they keep the credit sequence
Spoiler:
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03-16-04, 11:06 PM
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Originally posted by sracer
That is the conventional "wisdom"... that a good box office return for this film will increase the chances of Romero getting funding for his films. All that is, is wishful thinking.....
The success of "Resident Evil" and "28 Days Later" didn't do it... what did we get in return? Swill like "Children of the Living Dead" and "House of the Dead"....and...
...this tripe known as "Dawn of the Dead (2004)"... a cynical moneygrab to cash in the name of a cult classic.
Romero will never get the money he needs to do his project his way... never. why? Because (A) he is a hollywood outsider, AND, (B) because the studios can dredge up any ole junk of a screenplay, throw a "hip" director at it, and one or 2 "name" actors, and turn a quick profit because the moviegoing audiences don't care about a good zombie film.
Why would they pay for Romero and cater to his demands, when they can get "Mr. Scooby Do" cheaper and with less hassles? People will pay to see the end result no matter what.
Just consider the fact that the studios would rather do a "remake" using a fluff director, than hire the original creator to do his sequel....
That is the conventional "wisdom"... that a good box office return for this film will increase the chances of Romero getting funding for his films. All that is, is wishful thinking.....
The success of "Resident Evil" and "28 Days Later" didn't do it... what did we get in return? Swill like "Children of the Living Dead" and "House of the Dead"....and...
...this tripe known as "Dawn of the Dead (2004)"... a cynical moneygrab to cash in the name of a cult classic.
Romero will never get the money he needs to do his project his way... never. why? Because (A) he is a hollywood outsider, AND, (B) because the studios can dredge up any ole junk of a screenplay, throw a "hip" director at it, and one or 2 "name" actors, and turn a quick profit because the moviegoing audiences don't care about a good zombie film.
Why would they pay for Romero and cater to his demands, when they can get "Mr. Scooby Do" cheaper and with less hassles? People will pay to see the end result no matter what.
Just consider the fact that the studios would rather do a "remake" using a fluff director, than hire the original creator to do his sequel....
But I think this is different than Resident Evil and 28 Dyas Later. First, it directly ties into the Romero legacy. It's success could very well push DVD sales on the Romero classics, another thing that would push the investors to consider his new film. Lastly, when I say success I don't mean Resident Evil or 28 Days Later level. Resident Evil was a moderate success (shy of 50 mil) and 28 Days Later was a success in relation to its budget (8mil budget, 50 mil gross). For this film to have true impact though, I would think it needs to bank more like the TCM remake, in the neighborhood of 80-100 million, which I think it has the potential to do. At that point, I think Romero's possibilities open up a lot more. Remember, he's looking for like 10-15 million bucks, not 50 million to make his movie. With all this zombie momentum, I think SOMEONE will find the will to do it. I do think there is quite a commercial goldmine is his film with all this zombie stuff going on, and am hoping somebody with $$$ sees it.
03-17-04, 12:50 AM
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Originally posted by Seantn
Hmmm....I saw the film at a test screening about a month ago, so they might have actually cut it out since then.
Hmmm....I saw the film at a test screening about a month ago, so they might have actually cut it out since then.
