"Passion of the Christ": the negative Reviews are coming out

Rivero · 02-23-04, 10:07 AM

David Denby at The New Yorker:

http://www.newyorker.com/critics/cin...301crci_cinema

David Ansen at Newsweek:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4338528/

DVD Talk Review
http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/read.php?ID=9664

Spanky BananaPants · 02-23-04, 10:08 AM

And here I thought it would be negative reviews of "Pirates of the Caribbean."

~~edit~~ Now I see you've fixed the thread title. Oh well.

Rivero · 02-23-04, 10:09 AM

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Originally posted by Spanky BananaPants
And here I thought it would be negative reviews of "Pirates of the Caribbean."

hehe, yeah, POTC would be confusing so I changed the title

Groucho · 02-23-04, 10:19 AM

I read the reviews. Both reviews are fair, IMHO. The main complaint was the graphic violence, and both caution against taking children to the film.

David Ansen states that he is not a Christian. I don't know the religious affiliation of David Denby.

DGibFen · 02-23-04, 10:19 AM

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Originally posted by Spanky BananaPants
And here I thought it would be negative reviews of "Pirates of the Caribbean."

Yeah, Depp is great in POTC. Wait....

On Topic: Fox News had a woman (forgot her name) that works at In Touch Weekly and all she could harp on was that guys who loved bloody horror films would like this. Seriously.

Rivero · 02-23-04, 10:28 AM

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Originally posted by DGibFen
Yeah, Depp is great in POTC. Wait....
and all she could harp on was that guys who loved bloody horror films would like this. Seriously.

I heard a woman on the radio this morning who'd seen the film. She called Gibson a sadistic sadomasochist who gets off on gore, and said that the movie deliberately tries to punish the audience. She also said at her screening there were a few walk-outs.

DGibFen · 02-23-04, 10:34 AM

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Originally posted by Rivero
I heard a woman on the radio this morning who'd seen the film. She called Gibson a sadistic sadomasochist who gets off on gore, and said that the movie deliberately tries to punish the audience. She also said at her screening there were a few walk-outs.

That's what I'm figuring the big reaction would be. Gibson even said he made the film a little more violent than the event might have been. Then again, the medical report on the effects of the crucifixion might prove otherwise.

The New Yorker reviewer is extremely biased, if you ask me. I get the feeling that he went in knowing he wouldn't like the film, then wrote accordingly.

Jackskeleton · 02-23-04, 10:44 AM

So are the negative reviewers going to hell?

Groucho · 02-23-04, 10:45 AM

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Originally posted by Jackskeleton
So are the negative reviewers going to hell?

Yes, but not because of this. All critics are doomed to hell.

Artman · 02-23-04, 10:46 AM

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Originally posted by Jackskeleton
So are the negative reviewers going to hell?

No. They're entitled to their opinion

Kal-El · 02-23-04, 10:46 AM

I believe this is one of those films where one should not rely on other people's reviews regardless if they've agreed/disagreed with said reviewer in the past, and instead see it for themselves.

Giantrobo · 02-23-04, 10:58 AM

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Originally posted by Kal Jedi
I believe this is one of those films where one should not rely on other people's reviews regardless if they've agreed/disagreed with said reviewer in the past, and instead see it for themselves.

I agree. Based on the subject matter both Christians and Non-Christians are going to go in with biases and that's ok. But like any movie, I think people should go in and see it for themselves.

To be honest...

I haven't seen it yet but if there was movie that had a good reason to show GRAPHIC VIOLENCE in a proper context I would think it would be the story of Christ.

QuiGonJosh · 02-23-04, 11:24 AM

the whole things just an excercise in gore...I think I'll just watch Evil Dead or Dead Alive again...

rushmore223 · 02-23-04, 11:49 AM

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Originally posted by Groucho
Yes, but not because of this. All critics are doomed to hell.

Yes and there they will be forced to watch all 7 Police Academy movies and House of the Dead in a eternal loop.

Rivero · 02-23-04, 11:52 AM

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Originally posted by Giantrobo

I haven't seen it yet but if there was movie that had a good reason to show GRAPHIC VIOLENCE in a proper context I would think it would be the story of Christ.

that or if it's a Peter Jackson splatterhouse flick.

Rivero · 02-23-04, 11:54 AM

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Originally posted by rushmore223
Yes and there they will be forced to watch all 7 Police Academy movies

Soon to be 8 Police Academy movies!

BRIAN 1972 · 02-23-04, 11:59 AM

why does robocop get cut for violence, but this does not....maybe they should have called it "RoboChrist"?

Groucho · 02-23-04, 12:02 PM

I would go see a movie called RoboChrist blind, with no questions asked, based on the title alone!

Dr. DVD · 02-23-04, 12:06 PM

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Originally posted by Artman
No. They're entitled to their opinion

A lot of Christians would make you think otherwise. Been in a campus ministry, and they will try to tell it to you.

DonnachaOne · 02-23-04, 12:08 PM

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Originally posted by Groucho
I would go see a movie called RoboChrist blind, with no questions asked, based on the title alone!

"He was taken down in the line of duty, but three days later he rose from the dead... as ROBOCHRIST!"

Follow the ten directives!

Villain: "haha, he'll never get us at our island base... WHAT? He's WALKING TOWARDS US!"

RoboChrist: "Repent thy sins! You have until the day of judgement to comply! Dead or alive, you're coming with thy shepherd!"

I'd buy that for thirty pieces...

Rivero · 02-23-04, 12:32 PM

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Originally posted by BRIAN 1972
why does robocop get cut for violence, but this does not....maybe they should have called it "RoboChrist"?

They woulda made several million more on the title alone

dawn_dead · 02-23-04, 12:34 PM

Basically, to sum up the two article, The Passion of the Christ is anti-semetic.

Rivero · 02-23-04, 12:38 PM

I think this better sums up both reviews:

"This ain't your parent's Jesus movie"

Groucho · 02-23-04, 12:39 PM

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Originally posted by dawn_dead
Basically, to sum up the two article, The Passion of the Christ is anti-semetic.

Basically, to sum up dawn_dead's post, "I didn't read either article."

DonnachaOne · 02-23-04, 01:00 PM

After reading Denby's review - he's definitely well-informed, but I wonder how much of his review is actually a review of the movie and not Gibson. Do we really need Jesus contrasted with Mad Max? Is it relevant?

Denby says little about the actors or the film itself, which I see as unfair. He does make a good point about the violence, though - and I'm with him on the idea of not bringing children. We've sold churches entire showings - and I don't like the idea of fifty eight-year-olds watching their God getting the shit beaten out of him.

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Rivero Banned Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Germantown Maryland Posts: 2,488	"Passion of the Christ": the negative Reviews are coming out David Denby at The New Yorker: http://www.newyorker.com/critics/cin...301crci_cinema David Ansen at Newsweek: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4338528/ DVD Talk Review http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/read.php?ID=9664

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Groucho DVD Talk Godfather Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 62,072	I read the reviews. Both reviews are fair, IMHO. The main complaint was the graphic violence, and both caution against taking children to the film. David Ansen states that he is not a Christian. I don't know the religious affiliation of David Denby. __________________ Xbox Live: Runner Groucho PSN: RunnerGroucho "The Borg is a species" -- Tracer Bullet (Citation)

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Jackskeleton DVD Talk Godfather Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: City of the lakers.. riots.. and drug dealing cops.. los(t) Angel(e)s. ca. Posts: 52,228	So are the negative reviewers going to hell? __________________ *OTHER FORUM TEAM 7 leader*I will not say them here nor there. I will not say them anywhere. I will not say those Words you twit. I will not, will not sayI quit! Leaving a dark wet stain where your brain used to be? weird..tv? The bank is worth the risk

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Kal-El DVD Talk Limited Edition Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Fortress of Solitude Posts: 6,642	I believe this is one of those films where one should not rely on other people's reviews regardless if they've agreed/disagreed with said reviewer in the past, and instead see it for themselves. __________________ Vader was framed.

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Spanky BananaPants DVD Talk Special Edition Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 1,152	And here I thought it would be negative reviews of "Pirates of the Caribbean." ~~edit~~ Now I see you've fixed the thread title. Oh well.

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QuiGonJosh Banned Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,220	the whole things just an excercise in gore...I think I'll just watch Evil Dead or Dead Alive again...

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BRIAN 1972 Banned Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 669	why does robocop get cut for violence, but this does not....maybe they should have called it "RoboChrist"?

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Groucho DVD Talk Godfather Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 62,072	I would go see a movie called RoboChrist blind, with no questions asked, based on the title alone!

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dawn_dead Banned Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 2	Basically, to sum up the two article, The Passion of the Christ is anti-semetic.

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Rivero Banned Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Germantown Maryland Posts: 2,488	I think this better sums up both reviews: "This ain't your parent's Jesus movie"

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DonnachaOne DVD Talk Hall of Fame Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: A place where they know how to pronounce "Donnacha" correctly Posts: 9,806	After reading Denby's review - he's definitely well-informed, but I wonder how much of his review is actually a review of the movie and not Gibson. Do we really need Jesus contrasted with Mad Max? Is it relevant? Denby says little about the actors or the film itself, which I see as unfair. He does make a good point about the violence, though - and I'm with him on the idea of not bringing children. We've sold churches entire showings - and I don't like the idea of fifty eight-year-olds watching their God getting the shit beaten out of him.