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Old 02-23-04, 10:07 AM   #1
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"Passion of the Christ": the negative Reviews are coming out

David Denby at The New Yorker:

http://www.newyorker.com/critics/cin...301crci_cinema


David Ansen at Newsweek:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4338528/


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Old 02-23-04, 10:08 AM   #2
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And here I thought it would be negative reviews of "Pirates of the Caribbean."

~~edit~~ Now I see you've fixed the thread title. Oh well.
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Old 02-23-04, 10:09 AM   #3
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And here I thought it would be negative reviews of "Pirates of the Caribbean."
hehe, yeah, POTC would be confusing so I changed the title
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Old 02-23-04, 10:19 AM   #4
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I read the reviews. Both reviews are fair, IMHO. The main complaint was the graphic violence, and both caution against taking children to the film.

David Ansen states that he is not a Christian. I don't know the religious affiliation of David Denby.
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Old 02-23-04, 10:19 AM   #5
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And here I thought it would be negative reviews of "Pirates of the Caribbean."
Yeah, Depp is great in POTC. Wait....

On Topic: Fox News had a woman (forgot her name) that works at In Touch Weekly and all she could harp on was that guys who loved bloody horror films would like this. Seriously.
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Old 02-23-04, 10:28 AM   #6
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Yeah, Depp is great in POTC. Wait....
and all she could harp on was that guys who loved bloody horror films would like this. Seriously.
I heard a woman on the radio this morning who'd seen the film. She called Gibson a sadistic sadomasochist who gets off on gore, and said that the movie deliberately tries to punish the audience. She also said at her screening there were a few walk-outs.
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Old 02-23-04, 10:34 AM   #7
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I heard a woman on the radio this morning who'd seen the film. She called Gibson a sadistic sadomasochist who gets off on gore, and said that the movie deliberately tries to punish the audience. She also said at her screening there were a few walk-outs.
That's what I'm figuring the big reaction would be. Gibson even said he made the film a little more violent than the event might have been. Then again, the medical report on the effects of the crucifixion might prove otherwise.

The New Yorker reviewer is extremely biased, if you ask me. I get the feeling that he went in knowing he wouldn't like the film, then wrote accordingly.
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So are the negative reviewers going to hell?
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Old 02-23-04, 10:45 AM   #9
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So are the negative reviewers going to hell?
Yes, but not because of this. All critics are doomed to hell.
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Old 02-23-04, 10:46 AM   #10
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So are the negative reviewers going to hell?
No. They're entitled to their opinion
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Old 02-23-04, 10:46 AM   #11
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I believe this is one of those films where one should not rely on other people's reviews regardless if they've agreed/disagreed with said reviewer in the past, and instead see it for themselves.
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Old 02-23-04, 10:58 AM   #12
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I believe this is one of those films where one should not rely on other people's reviews regardless if they've agreed/disagreed with said reviewer in the past, and instead see it for themselves.

I agree. Based on the subject matter both Christians and Non-Christians are going to go in with biases and that's ok. But like any movie, I think people should go in and see it for themselves.


To be honest...

I haven't seen it yet but if there was movie that had a good reason to show GRAPHIC VIOLENCE in a proper context I would think it would be the story of Christ.
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Old 02-23-04, 11:24 AM   #13
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the whole things just an excercise in gore...I think I'll just watch Evil Dead or Dead Alive again...
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Old 02-23-04, 11:49 AM   #14
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Yes, but not because of this. All critics are doomed to hell.
Yes and there they will be forced to watch all 7 Police Academy movies and House of the Dead in a eternal loop.
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I haven't seen it yet but if there was movie that had a good reason to show GRAPHIC VIOLENCE in a proper context I would think it would be the story of Christ.

that or if it's a Peter Jackson splatterhouse flick.
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Yes and there they will be forced to watch all 7 Police Academy movies
Soon to be 8 Police Academy movies!
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Old 02-23-04, 11:59 AM   #17
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why does robocop get cut for violence, but this does not....maybe they should have called it "RoboChrist"?
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Old 02-23-04, 12:02 PM   #18
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I would go see a movie called RoboChrist blind, with no questions asked, based on the title alone!
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Old 02-23-04, 12:06 PM   #19
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No. They're entitled to their opinion

A lot of Christians would make you think otherwise. Been in a campus ministry, and they will try to tell it to you.
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I would go see a movie called RoboChrist blind, with no questions asked, based on the title alone!
"He was taken down in the line of duty, but three days later he rose from the dead... as ROBOCHRIST!"

Follow the ten directives!

Villain: "haha, he'll never get us at our island base... WHAT? He's WALKING TOWARDS US!"

RoboChrist: "Repent thy sins! You have until the day of judgement to comply! Dead or alive, you're coming with thy shepherd!"

I'd buy that for thirty pieces...

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Old 02-23-04, 12:32 PM   #21
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why does robocop get cut for violence, but this does not....maybe they should have called it "RoboChrist"?
They woulda made several million more on the title alone

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Old 02-23-04, 12:34 PM   #22
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Basically, to sum up the two article, The Passion of the Christ is anti-semetic.
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Old 02-23-04, 12:38 PM   #23
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I think this better sums up both reviews:

"This ain't your parent's Jesus movie"
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Old 02-23-04, 12:39 PM   #24
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Basically, to sum up the two article, The Passion of the Christ is anti-semetic.
Basically, to sum up dawn_dead's post, "I didn't read either article."
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Old 02-23-04, 01:00 PM   #25
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After reading Denby's review - he's definitely well-informed, but I wonder how much of his review is actually a review of the movie and not Gibson. Do we really need Jesus contrasted with Mad Max? Is it relevant?

Denby says little about the actors or the film itself, which I see as unfair. He does make a good point about the violence, though - and I'm with him on the idea of not bringing children. We've sold churches entire showings - and I don't like the idea of fifty eight-year-olds watching their God getting the shit beaten out of him.
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