The Dreamers
01-12-04, 06:50 PM
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guess your gonna have to go to the U.K to see "the Dreamers" uncut
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Fox Searchlight is expected to screen a highly censored version of Bernardo Bertolucci's controversial The Dreamers at the Sundance Film Festival this week, the London Sunday Times reported. In advance of its scheduled domestic release in March, the studio has reportedly made cuts of as much as 60 seconds to scenes involving frontal nudity and male masturbation, the newspaper said. In an interview with the Sunday Times, the cuts were condemned by one of the film's stars, Eva Green. "It is quite paradoxical, because in America there is so much violence, both on the streets and on the screen. They think nothing of it. Yet I think they are frightened by sex." (Bertolucci himself has previously expressed concern that his film would be "mutilated" by U.S. censors.) The newspaper said that the film will be shown uncut when it is released in the U.K.
Fox Searchlight is expected to screen a highly censored version of Bernardo Bertolucci's controversial The Dreamers at the Sundance Film Festival this week, the London Sunday Times reported. In advance of its scheduled domestic release in March, the studio has reportedly made cuts of as much as 60 seconds to scenes involving frontal nudity and male masturbation, the newspaper said. In an interview with the Sunday Times, the cuts were condemned by one of the film's stars, Eva Green. "It is quite paradoxical, because in America there is so much violence, both on the streets and on the screen. They think nothing of it. Yet I think they are frightened by sex." (Bertolucci himself has previously expressed concern that his film would be "mutilated" by U.S. censors.) The newspaper said that the film will be shown uncut when it is released in the U.K.
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Re: guess your gonna have to go to the U.K to see "the Dreamers" uncut
Originally posted by Rypro 525
the studio has reportedly made cuts of as much as 60 seconds to scenes involving frontal nudity and male masturbation, the newspaper said.
the studio has reportedly made cuts of as much as 60 seconds to scenes involving frontal nudity and male masturbation, the newspaper said.
01-12-04, 07:55 PM
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Re: Re: guess your gonna have to go to the U.K to see "the Dreamers" uncut
Originally posted by El-Kabong
Female masturbation on the other hand is A-OK! As it should be.
Female masturbation on the other hand is A-OK! As it should be.
01-12-04, 11:09 PM
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Rypro 525,
Do you actually have any interest in this movie or are you just provoking another "Jack Valenti raped my childhood and then censored the evidence!" thread?
Do you actually have any interest in this movie or are you just provoking another "Jack Valenti raped my childhood and then censored the evidence!" thread?
01-13-04, 07:28 AM
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Maybe if the penis shot bullets it would be more accepting to the American public.
The ratings board is a joke when it comes to mature & intelligent films concerning sex. There is an article in the new issue of Sight & sound about this very same topic,
The ratings board is a joke when it comes to mature & intelligent films concerning sex. There is an article in the new issue of Sight & sound about this very same topic,
01-13-04, 08:00 AM
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guess you're gonna have to change this thread
From today's Hollywood Reporter:
Fox Searchlight Pictures is daring to challenge the NC-17 taboo.
The specialty films division of 20th Century Fox said Monday it will release the uncut version of Bernardo Bertolucci's "The Dreamers," marking the first time in more than six years that a studio belonging to the Motion Picture Assn. of America has distributed a film rated NC-17, a tag that generally means commercial death....
Helmer Bertolucci said in a statement: "'The Dreamers' is finally making it to the U.S. in its uncut version. I'm relieved -- in so many ways -- that the distributor has had the vision to release my original film. After all, an orgasm is better than a bomb."
The specialty films division of 20th Century Fox said Monday it will release the uncut version of Bernardo Bertolucci's "The Dreamers," marking the first time in more than six years that a studio belonging to the Motion Picture Assn. of America has distributed a film rated NC-17, a tag that generally means commercial death....
Helmer Bertolucci said in a statement: "'The Dreamers' is finally making it to the U.S. in its uncut version. I'm relieved -- in so many ways -- that the distributor has had the vision to release my original film. After all, an orgasm is better than a bomb."
01-13-04, 11:01 PM
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I guess Julie Walker is very happy.
or are you just provoking another "Jack Valenti raped my childhood and then censored the evidence!" thread?
I was more in that area, since I had never heard of the movie before. I wonder, if due to the NC-17, that only art theaters get the movie.
or are you just provoking another "Jack Valenti raped my childhood and then censored the evidence!" thread?
I was more in that area, since I had never heard of the movie before. I wonder, if due to the NC-17, that only art theaters get the movie.
01-13-04, 11:08 PM
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Originally posted by Rypro 525
I guess Julie Walker is very happy.
or are you just provoking another "Jack Valenti raped my childhood and then censored the evidence!" thread?
I was more in that area, since I had never heard of the movie before. I wonder, if due to the NC-17, that only art theaters get the movie.
I guess Julie Walker is very happy.
or are you just provoking another "Jack Valenti raped my childhood and then censored the evidence!" thread?
I was more in that area, since I had never heard of the movie before. I wonder, if due to the NC-17, that only art theaters get the movie.
By the way, when is Fox Searchlight going to release this film? I think it behove them to release this to the largest amount of theatres that will book NC-17 rated films and gain as much money as possible from the controversy and not be city centric and release this only in NY and LA.
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01-14-04, 12:26 AM
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Originally posted by Giles
By the way, when is Fox Searchlight going to release this film?
By the way, when is Fox Searchlight going to release this film?
01-14-04, 01:08 AM
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I like my films sausage free, thank you kindly..
Ooooooh 60 seconds.. ooooh the horror of it! I'm sure much like more blood, More sausage does not make a better film..
Ooooooh 60 seconds.. ooooh the horror of it! I'm sure much like more blood, More sausage does not make a better film..
01-14-04, 08:24 AM
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I wish some of the people on this forum would grow up a little. If this was being censored for ANY other reason, the site would practically be in flames from all the people "up in arms", but since it's *GASP* male nudity, it's no big deal.
Censorship is censorship, people.
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Censorship is censorship, people.
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01-14-04, 10:40 AM
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I wish some of the people on this forum would grow up a little.
01-14-04, 12:58 PM
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Originally posted by Xander
I wish some of the people on this forum would grow up a little. If this was being censored for ANY other reason, the site would practically be in flames from all the people "up in arms", but since it's *GASP* male nudity, it's no big deal.
Censorship is censorship, people.
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I wish some of the people on this forum would grow up a little. If this was being censored for ANY other reason, the site would practically be in flames from all the people "up in arms", but since it's *GASP* male nudity, it's no big deal.
Censorship is censorship, people.
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01-14-04, 01:01 PM
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I agree, I mean, look at the number of posts in the Kill Bill threads about the one scene in b&w while asians get it in color while Tarantino wanted it in b&w.
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The Dreamers
Anyone had a chance to see the Dreamers last weekend?
I would like to hear your thoughts on the film...
I read the news that with its limited release, it had an impressive openning of $30,016 per screen. The highest so far this year...
http://us.imdb.com/StudioBrief/2004/20040209.html#1
I would like to hear your thoughts on the film...
I read the news that with its limited release, it had an impressive openning of $30,016 per screen. The highest so far this year...
http://us.imdb.com/StudioBrief/2004/20040209.html#1
02-10-04, 07:54 AM
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mind you 'limited release' means 5 screens in the entire US. The second extended limited release happens this Friday - which at that point more cities will have chosen whether or not to book and present this NC-17 rated film.
02-10-04, 11:50 AM
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That IMDB note seems to be suggesting that newspapers are not denying ad space to this film yet. Thats a positive trend.
I'll be seeing it this weekend hopefully.
I'll be seeing it this weekend hopefully.
02-11-04, 04:25 PM
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Wow - Bertolucci at the top of his form! This movie is one of the best I have seen in a long time, filled with a love for life, a love for movies, and moments of pure magic. I can't wait to see this again because I'm sure I missed many references. The cast is terrific, and the soundtrack seems to have captured the essence of 1968 pop music.
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I also love the soundtrack on the Dreamers trailer
You can watch the trailer here.
http://www2.foxsearchlight.com/thedreamers/
You can watch the trailer here.
http://www2.foxsearchlight.com/thedreamers/