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Old 01-17-04, 04:32 PM   #1
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the order

i just rented this - and i dont get it.

can someone please explain it (use spoilers for other people). i am lost.
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Old 01-17-04, 07:40 PM   #2
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did ANYONE understand it?
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Old 01-17-04, 07:41 PM   #3
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nobody understood it because nobody saw it
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Old 01-17-04, 07:54 PM   #4
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I saw it. I didn't understand it because I wasn't interested (much like The Matrix).
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Old 01-17-04, 09:30 PM   #5
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lol deftones. that makes sense.

but im still curious to what the hell this movie was about.
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Old 01-17-04, 11:00 PM   #6
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Spoiler:
Alex Bernier is a young American priest who, though he believes in God in his heart, is unsure of his own place. He is one of the last of the Carolingian order - priests that were given special powers by the church in olden times. They can identify and cast out demons and ghosts, etc.

Well, the head of the order dies under mysterious circumstances, and Alex (with Mara, the woman he once loved, a - apparently reformed - deranged escapee) journeys to Rome for the funeral. As the order's head had been excommunicated, he could not be buried in a holy grave; Alex decides to bury him anyway, as he knows that the priest was a good, holy man. Alex notices marks on the body over the heart; the marks are of teh Sin-eater, a man endowed with the power to take sins away from a person who the church would otherwise ignore, leaving them with a clean soul. The Sin-eater is then burdened with the other's sins, who can now die peacefullyand gain salvation.

ALex and his fellow Carolingian Father Thomas are charged by Cardinal Driscoll to seek out the Sin-eater. Thomas brings Alex to an underground anti-church who can help them. Sure enough, they're helped out, but they see some nasty things while they're there.

ALex, who has grown much closer to Mara (could she have been possessed when she committed here wrongs?) finds teh SIn-Eater. He is a lonely, but wealthy man who makes a living cleaning soulds of the wicked for profit. He extracts the sins - which manifest thesmelves as, um, ghostly kalimari - and eats them. But he has had enough, and desires that Alex take over. ALex refuses.

Alex and Mara have sex.

Alex comes back to find Mara near death. Alex does not want here to go to hell for whatever it is that she did so long ago, so he uses teh Sin-Eater power to cleanse her soul. But her soul is pretty clean... Alex has been tricked into becoming the next Sin-Eater.

(I forget the tie-in to the next step)

Cardinal Driscoll has been systematically conspiring to becomes the next pope... and he's also the head of the pagan cult! SHOCK! He's been working to become the next pope... a "warrior pope".

Driscoll is excommunicated and disgraced. He calls on ALex, the new Sin-Eater. But Alex, avenging Mara and his fellow priests, takes the sins of Father Driscoll and forces him to die with his sins.


That's about it. I haven't seen it in a while, so I can't help you with it all.

There is also THIS thread...

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Old 01-18-04, 06:00 AM   #7
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whats to get, it was a crappy movie, I would give you more insight as to why but its been a couple months since I saw it
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Old 01-18-04, 10:16 AM   #8
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i saw it , that chick was beautiful. but that's about it
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Old 01-18-04, 03:19 PM   #9
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thanks donnachaone...i have a few questions

Spoiler:

1. who are those people who are hanged with their faces covered and why do they answer questions?

2. was maras wrists slit by herself or someone else (the sin eater)?

3. when someone eats their sins, they do immediately die right after?

4. at the end why did thomas scream NO when alex killed the sin eater? what was that last scene all about?
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Old 01-18-04, 11:56 PM   #10
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Originally posted by atari2600
thanks donnachaone...i have a few questions

Spoiler:

1. who are those people who are hanged with their faces covered and why do they answer questions?

2. was maras wrists slit by herself or someone else (the sin eater)?

3. when someone eats their sins, they do immediately die right after?

4. at the end why did thomas scream NO when alex killed the sin eater? what was that last scene all about?
As far as I can tell...
Spoiler:
1. I think Helgeland wanted to stress the fact that the pagan cult was EEE-VIL, so they had hanging guys with bags over their heads. While dying, there's a temporary link between the dead and the living - or sometheing - so the spirits can, for a few seconds, communicate with Alex and answer his questions.

2 and 3. I think the wrist-cutting is part of the ritual - a person must be dying for the sin-dinner to work. Since the people getting sin-ate (?) are disgraced evildoers mostly, they have nothing left to live for. I think the Sin-Eater slit Mara's wrists, so that Alex would assume the job.

4. Wasn't the sin-eater stabbed witha special knife? Thomas had read something Alex hadn't; the dagger doesn't just KILL the sin-eater... the stabber BECOMES the sin-eater.


MY God, such a terrible film. So much wasted potential. When I type this, it sounds kinda cool! But then I remember how bad the film was.

Remake, anyone???
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Old 01-19-04, 03:36 AM   #11
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thanks again...
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