the order

atari2600 · 01-17-04, 04:32 PM

i just rented this - and i dont get it.

can someone please explain it (use spoilers for other people). i am lost.

atari2600 · 01-17-04, 07:40 PM

did ANYONE understand it?

Deftones · 01-17-04, 07:41 PM

nobody understood it because nobody saw it

daniel18 · 01-17-04, 07:54 PM

I saw it. I didn't understand it because I wasn't interested (much like The Matrix).

atari2600 · 01-17-04, 09:30 PM

lol deftones. that makes sense.

but im still curious to what the hell this movie was about.

DonnachaOne · 01-17-04, 11:00 PM

Spoiler:

Alex Bernier is a young American priest who, though he believes in God in his heart, is unsure of his own place. He is one of the last of the Carolingian order - priests that were given special powers by the church in olden times. They can identify and cast out demons and ghosts, etc.

Well, the head of the order dies under mysterious circumstances, and Alex (with Mara, the woman he once loved, a - apparently reformed - deranged escapee) journeys to Rome for the funeral. As the order's head had been excommunicated, he could not be buried in a holy grave; Alex decides to bury him anyway, as he knows that the priest was a good, holy man. Alex notices marks on the body over the heart; the marks are of teh Sin-eater, a man endowed with the power to take sins away from a person who the church would otherwise ignore, leaving them with a clean soul. The Sin-eater is then burdened with the other's sins, who can now die peacefullyand gain salvation.

ALex and his fellow Carolingian Father Thomas are charged by Cardinal Driscoll to seek out the Sin-eater. Thomas brings Alex to an underground anti-church who can help them. Sure enough, they're helped out, but they see some nasty things while they're there.

ALex, who has grown much closer to Mara (could she have been possessed when she committed here wrongs?) finds teh SIn-Eater. He is a lonely, but wealthy man who makes a living cleaning soulds of the wicked for profit. He extracts the sins - which manifest thesmelves as, um, ghostly kalimari - and eats them. But he has had enough, and desires that Alex take over. ALex refuses.

Alex and Mara have sex.

Alex comes back to find Mara near death. Alex does not want here to go to hell for whatever it is that she did so long ago, so he uses teh Sin-Eater power to cleanse her soul. But her soul is pretty clean... Alex has been tricked into becoming the next Sin-Eater.

(I forget the tie-in to the next step)

Cardinal Driscoll has been systematically conspiring to becomes the next pope... and he's also the head of the pagan cult! SHOCK! He's been working to become the next pope... a "warrior pope".

Driscoll is excommunicated and disgraced. He calls on ALex, the new Sin-Eater. But Alex, avenging Mara and his fellow priests, takes the sins of Father Driscoll and forces him to die with his sins.

That's about it. I haven't seen it in a while, so I can't help you with it all.

There is also THIS thread...

ArchibaldTuttle · 01-18-04, 06:00 AM

whats to get, it was a crappy movie, I would give you more insight as to why but its been a couple months since I saw it

IC_Freeze · 01-18-04, 10:16 AM

i saw it , that chick was beautiful. but that's about it

atari2600 · 01-18-04, 03:19 PM

thanks donnachaone...i have a few questions

Spoiler:

DonnachaOne · 01-18-04, 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by atari2600
thanks donnachaone...i have a few questions

Spoiler:

1. who are those people who are hanged with their faces covered and why do they answer questions?

2. was maras wrists slit by herself or someone else (the sin eater)?

3. when someone eats their sins, they do immediately die right after?

4. at the end why did thomas scream NO when alex killed the sin eater? what was that last scene all about?

As far as I can tell...

Spoiler:

MY God, such a terrible film. So much wasted potential. When I type this, it sounds kinda cool! But then I remember how bad the film was.

Remake, anyone???

atari2600 · 01-19-04, 03:36 AM

thanks again...

01-17-04, 04:32 PM	#1
atari2600 DVD Talk Hall of Fame Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 7,674	the order i just rented this - and i dont get it. can someone please explain it (use spoilers for other people). i am lost.

01-17-04, 07:41 PM	#3
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01-17-04, 11:00 PM	#6
DonnachaOne DVD Talk Hall of Fame Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: A place where they know how to pronounce "Donnacha" correctly Posts: 9,806	Spoiler: Alex Bernier is a young American priest who, though he believes in God in his heart, is unsure of his own place. He is one of the last of the Carolingian order - priests that were given special powers by the church in olden times. They can identify and cast out demons and ghosts, etc. Well, the head of the order dies under mysterious circumstances, and Alex (with Mara, the woman he once loved, a - apparently reformed - deranged escapee) journeys to Rome for the funeral. As the order's head had been excommunicated, he could not be buried in a holy grave; Alex decides to bury him anyway, as he knows that the priest was a good, holy man. Alex notices marks on the body over the heart; the marks are of teh Sin-eater, a man endowed with the power to take sins away from a person who the church would otherwise ignore, leaving them with a clean soul. The Sin-eater is then burdened with the other's sins, who can now die peacefullyand gain salvation. ALex and his fellow Carolingian Father Thomas are charged by Cardinal Driscoll to seek out the Sin-eater. Thomas brings Alex to an underground anti-church who can help them. Sure enough, they're helped out, but they see some nasty things while they're there. ALex, who has grown much closer to Mara (could she have been possessed when she committed here wrongs?) finds teh SIn-Eater. He is a lonely, but wealthy man who makes a living cleaning soulds of the wicked for profit. He extracts the sins - which manifest thesmelves as, um, ghostly kalimari - and eats them. But he has had enough, and desires that Alex take over. ALex refuses. Alex and Mara have sex. Alex comes back to find Mara near death. Alex does not want here to go to hell for whatever it is that she did so long ago, so he uses teh Sin-Eater power to cleanse her soul. But her soul is pretty clean... Alex has been tricked into becoming the next Sin-Eater. (I forget the tie-in to the next step) Cardinal Driscoll has been systematically conspiring to becomes the next pope... and he's also the head of the pagan cult! SHOCK! He's been working to become the next pope... a "warrior pope". Driscoll is excommunicated and disgraced. He calls on ALex, the new Sin-Eater. But Alex, avenging Mara and his fellow priests, takes the sins of Father Driscoll and forces him to die with his sins. That's about it. I haven't seen it in a while, so I can't help you with it all. There is also THIS thread... Last edited by DonnachaOne; 01-17-04 at 11:04 PM.

01-17-04, 07:40 PM	#2
atari2600 DVD Talk Hall of Fame Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 7,674	did ANYONE understand it?

01-17-04, 07:54 PM	#4
daniel18 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: FL Posts: 489	I saw it. I didn't understand it because I wasn't interested (much like The Matrix).

01-17-04, 09:30 PM	#5
atari2600 DVD Talk Hall of Fame Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 7,674	lol deftones. that makes sense. but im still curious to what the hell this movie was about.

01-18-04, 06:00 AM	#7
ArchibaldTuttle Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 658	whats to get, it was a crappy movie, I would give you more insight as to why but its been a couple months since I saw it

01-18-04, 10:16 AM	#8
IC_Freeze Needs to contact an admin about multiple accounts Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 1,392	i saw it , that chick was beautiful. but that's about it

01-18-04, 03:19 PM	#9
atari2600 DVD Talk Hall of Fame Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 7,674	thanks donnachaone...i have a few questions Spoiler: 1. who are those people who are hanged with their faces covered and why do they answer questions? 2. was maras wrists slit by herself or someone else (the sin eater)? 3. when someone eats their sins, they do immediately die right after? 4. at the end why did thomas scream NO when alex killed the sin eater? what was that last scene all about?

01-19-04, 03:36 AM	#11
atari2600 DVD Talk Hall of Fame Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 7,674	thanks again...