Worst ROTK review evah!
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Worst ROTK review evah!
Folks, I honestly feel bad about giving the Richmond Times Dispatch extra site hits because of this. You all have to see this review though as it is by far the most off-base, ill-informed, idiotic review that I've seen.
http://www.timesdispatch.com/servlet...=1031772656840
Just some background - this guy is consistantly off-base on almost all reviews. Basically if many people love a film, it must be bad. He also ripped apart FOTR and TT. How he has continued to keep a job after continually doing such a dis-service to the people of Richmond is beyond me. I cringe to think that there will be people who don't know any better that will read the review and miss out on this movie...
fyi, his email is at the bottom. You might want to tell him that 97% of the other reviewers out there from major publications LOVED it.
http://www.timesdispatch.com/servlet...=1031772656840
Just some background - this guy is consistantly off-base on almost all reviews. Basically if many people love a film, it must be bad. He also ripped apart FOTR and TT. How he has continued to keep a job after continually doing such a dis-service to the people of Richmond is beyond me. I cringe to think that there will be people who don't know any better that will read the review and miss out on this movie...
fyi, his email is at the bottom. You might want to tell him that 97% of the other reviewers out there from major publications LOVED it.
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It seems like an informed and coherent review, even if I strongly disagree with it. The reviews that bother me are the ones where the writer clearly didn't understand the plot of the movie, and there isn't much evidence of that here.
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Originally posted by Philip Reuben
It seems like an informed and coherent review, even if I strongly disagree with it.
It seems like an informed and coherent review, even if I strongly disagree with it.
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Originally posted by Groucho
I don't see how you can say that about any review that thinks the Viggo Mortensen character is named "Benadryl."
I don't see how you can say that about any review that thinks the Viggo Mortensen character is named "Benadryl."
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I'd say that was an ok review. While I understand the deire to jump on him, he's correct for the most part, though why he thinks those things are so awful is beyond me, and why he can't keep track of what's going on indicates not that the filmmakers messed up but that he...doesn't like this stuff. Though some of his complaints are trivial and just plain wrong. Gandalf keeps riding back and forth, sometimes with no reason. No reason? Where? Gollum's fingers go from five to six. Yeah right, I'm sure that happened. I don't mind picking on things thatwere in the movie, but I'd rather they didn't make things up.
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While I can accept much of the review as one person's opinion, the part the jumps out as me as indicative of a poor professional review is this:
Just be cause Bloom, Tyler, and Blanchett are "big name" actors does not mean their roles were major. A professional reviewer should have been keyed in that not all the roles were major roles when he reached a count of 8, 19 is clearly including a lot of minor parts...
At least 19 major characters vie for our attention, and some of them lose out. Orlando Bloom has little to do, Liv Tyler has next to nothing and Cate Blanchett has even less.
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here is my favorite part of his "review"...
One way "Return of the King" is different from "The Fellowship of the Ring" and "The Two Towers" that preceded it is that the earlier films failed to end.
But "Return of the King" ends. Boy, does it end.
It ends and it ends and it ends, and we begin to worry that it is never going to stop ending. It starts to end, and then 20 minutes later it is still ending. Maybe 25 minutes later.
too funny!
and hey I thought benadryl was great in the move
One way "Return of the King" is different from "The Fellowship of the Ring" and "The Two Towers" that preceded it is that the earlier films failed to end.
But "Return of the King" ends. Boy, does it end.
It ends and it ends and it ends, and we begin to worry that it is never going to stop ending. It starts to end, and then 20 minutes later it is still ending. Maybe 25 minutes later.
too funny!
and hey I thought benadryl was great in the move
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I won't lie. Clearly this reviewer isn't familiar with the concept of trilogy. Essentially 7 hours into one long, long movie, he expects character development? WTF were the other 7 hours for then? I swear, people with ADD really shouldn't review movies. The Benadryl shot was inept and over the top. If by the third movie in a trilogy you can't name a main character, or are too stupid to, get the F out of the theatre. He even goes so far as attacking the language. Again, a big fat "WHAT THE FRICK?!?" This is not our language. This is not the way we speak. This is the way hobbits, elves, and wizards speak in the Tolkien universe. I honest to god think that this may be the least imaginative reviewer I have ever encountered. His one valid point is that of the multiple endings, all of which I love, but admit were too much for most people. I'd e-mail him, but he's probably an immature idiot who doesn't listen to the opinions of others and chants the mantra "I stick by my review. I stick by my review."
Wow, just had a chance to re-read this thing. "...tiresomely brave heroes..." I now want to rip his head off. The theme of the damn movie is fortitude against all odds. There was character development to support this in Aragorn's love for Arwen, his realization of his place as Gondor's king, and as a sworn protector of Middle-Earth. I give up. F this guy and his tiny newspaper.
Wow, just had a chance to re-read this thing. "...tiresomely brave heroes..." I now want to rip his head off. The theme of the damn movie is fortitude against all odds. There was character development to support this in Aragorn's love for Arwen, his realization of his place as Gondor's king, and as a sworn protector of Middle-Earth. I give up. F this guy and his tiny newspaper.
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When I read the title of this thread, my first thought was "Daniel Neman?" The Times-Dispatch is my newspaper, and Neman is a long standing joke. He's a pompous ass trying to act like Ebert, but without the credentials to back it up. The Dispatch does a weekly movie roundup where they show the ratings from major newspapers as well as Neman's rating. Where other critics will give a movie 3 or 4 stars, he'll give the movie one, and vice versa.
Everyone in Richmond uses his reviews to decided whether or not to see the movie. If he hates it, it'll be great!
Everyone in Richmond uses his reviews to decided whether or not to see the movie. If he hates it, it'll be great!
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I have to agree about the Liv Tyler comment. How she even got a part in that film, is beyond me. She's not an actor that has any real credits to her name. I think PJ could have easily chosen a much better actor (even sexier?) for the part. Hell, even Julia Roberts would have been a better choice. And I don't like Julia that much either.
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Originally posted by DVD Polizei
I have to agree about the Liv Tyler comment. How she even got a part in that film, is beyond me. She's not an actor that has any real credits to her name.
I have to agree about the Liv Tyler comment. How she even got a part in that film, is beyond me. She's not an actor that has any real credits to her name.
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Ben Affleck? J. Lo? You must be joking. I would never inflict that kind of pain on an audience.
Ben Affleck? J. Lo? You must be joking. I would never inflict that kind of pain on an audience.
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lol that review is a joke! wat a way to "make a name for urself" just makes them look really stupid (especially the fact he got viggo's name wrong
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The guy is obviously a pompous ass who doesn't even have the intelligence to act like a pompous ass. What terrible writing! It is so infantile.
And as for Julia Roberts as Arwen...ew. I think Liv Tyler was a great choice. And she had a lot more screen time in Fellowship...I think her 3rd billing has more to do with the importance of her character than how much we actually see her.
And as for Julia Roberts as Arwen...ew. I think Liv Tyler was a great choice. And she had a lot more screen time in Fellowship...I think her 3rd billing has more to do with the importance of her character than how much we actually see her.
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How Liv Tyler got 3rd billing in the credits is beyond me.
How Liv Tyler got 3rd billing in the credits is beyond me.
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Originally posted by Suprmallet
I actually thought it was a well articulated and funny review. I don't agree with it, but that doesn't mean the guy is incompetent, or an ass.
I actually thought it was a well articulated and funny review. I don't agree with it, but that doesn't mean the guy is incompetent, or an ass.
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19 major characters... was he watching a super duper extended edition that I did not see? This guy obviously has ADD if he cannot keep it together long enough to follow the story arc and pay attention to whats going on. Perhaps prescribing him Ritalin might do some good, followed up by English 101 and an intro to Literature. It's guys like this that they make movies like Haunted Mansion for, I presume.
Well, I guess if you can't achieve notoriety on your own abilities and talents, what is left but to bash something that was almost universally loved to gain a sort of Shock Value. This smacks of a desperate attempt at attention.
Well, I guess if you can't achieve notoriety on your own abilities and talents, what is left but to bash something that was almost universally loved to gain a sort of Shock Value. This smacks of a desperate attempt at attention.
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No no, he really is incompetent and an ass. Try reading his reviews for several years.
No no, he really is incompetent and an ass. Try reading his reviews for several years.