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08-09-03, 09:25 AM
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Originally posted by ccoolidge
My favorite scene is where S.W.A.T. storms the Cyberdyne building to catch the terrorists and the big biker looking guy shoots them all in the kneecaps.
My favorite scene is where S.W.A.T. storms the Cyberdyne building to catch the terrorists and the big biker looking guy shoots them all in the kneecaps.
That was pretty sweet.
08-09-03, 09:40 AM
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Saw it last night... I liked it.
I was a little weirded out seeing the-Elijah-Wood-look a-like-with-tatoos-as-the-ex-SWAT-turned-bad-guy in the film.
It was good to see Ashley Scott again... albeit it was only about 3 mins.
All in all I give it
for just being a little more real than it should have been.
I was a little weirded out seeing the-Elijah-Wood-look a-like-with-tatoos-as-the-ex-SWAT-turned-bad-guy in the film.
It was good to see Ashley Scott again... albeit it was only about 3 mins.
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All in all I give it
for just being a little more real than it should have been.
08-09-03, 04:05 PM
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Well, I have to come in here and stem the tide of all this negativity, because I actually really enjoyed the movie. (either stem the tide of suffer from first degree flame burns)
I thought the movie started a lot stronger than it ended, but still a very good action ride. Maybe I'm cutting Clark Johnson too much slack, but except for a couple places, the movie was directed extremely well, he clearly learned a few lessons from John DeSegoznac.
Nice to see Reed Diamond and Josh Charles up on the big screen too, though
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I thought the movie started a lot stronger than it ended, but still a very good action ride. Maybe I'm cutting Clark Johnson too much slack, but except for a couple places, the movie was directed extremely well, he clearly learned a few lessons from John DeSegoznac.
Nice to see Reed Diamond and Josh Charles up on the big screen too, though
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08-09-03, 05:01 PM
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Its not a great movie and maybe not even a good movie. But I still enjoyed it.
Those 80's action movies were dumb fun but I'm glad they don't often make movies like Commando and Cobra anymore. If only because the guys and gal in S.W.A.T. actually look like they know how to handle a weapon. They don't look like a bunch of dumb actors who've never handled a gun and wave it around each other like toys. The technical advisor (ex-LAPD) for T2 and Se7en helped the actors look and move like real S.W.A.T. team members.
The cops in this movie actually get to be the good guys in this movie. Its not some loner who's trying to do good in a city full of crooked/incompetent cops and criminals. Most cops actually are good guys and well trained. What a concept!! I loved the scene when LL Cool J has a verbal exchange with an old woman when he's hauling a black suspect into a patrol car. And the attitude of this movie is refreshingly UN-PC. (Which seems to be why some critics want to bash this movie even more, like they did with Fight Club). If a bad guy needs to be shot they shoot him and they don't reflect on it, concern themselves about "healing", or other touchy feely things. If thats not for you Le Divorce and Freaky Friday opened next door.
Those 80's action movies were dumb fun but I'm glad they don't often make movies like Commando and Cobra anymore. If only because the guys and gal in S.W.A.T. actually look like they know how to handle a weapon. They don't look like a bunch of dumb actors who've never handled a gun and wave it around each other like toys. The technical advisor (ex-LAPD) for T2 and Se7en helped the actors look and move like real S.W.A.T. team members.
The cops in this movie actually get to be the good guys in this movie. Its not some loner who's trying to do good in a city full of crooked/incompetent cops and criminals. Most cops actually are good guys and well trained. What a concept!! I loved the scene when LL Cool J has a verbal exchange with an old woman when he's hauling a black suspect into a patrol car. And the attitude of this movie is refreshingly UN-PC. (Which seems to be why some critics want to bash this movie even more, like they did with Fight Club). If a bad guy needs to be shot they shoot him and they don't reflect on it, concern themselves about "healing", or other touchy feely things. If thats not for you Le Divorce and Freaky Friday opened next door.
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08-09-03, 05:58 PM
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Did anyone else notice that Josh Charles looks like a surly French Stewart (the squinty comedian from 3rd Rock From the Sun)? It was hard to take him seriously as a bad-ass once I made the connection. 
Anyway, the movie was alright. I'm glad I heard all of the negative reviews, so my expectations were low. They DEFINITELY did not capitalize on the premise, though. Even the main assault sucked in its brevity and lack of follow through on bullet hits.
Anyway, the movie was alright. I'm glad I heard all of the negative reviews, so my expectations were low. They DEFINITELY did not capitalize on the premise, though. Even the main assault sucked in its brevity and lack of follow through on bullet hits.
08-09-03, 07:40 PM
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I saw this today with my gf. I really didn't want to see it, and after seeing it I can say that was a smart decision.
I thought the movie was terrible.
The dialog was some of the worst-cheesiest lines I've heard.
LL Cool J alone ruins a movie for me. He even managed to do it in Halloween H20.. 
Constant music, I haven't seen a list of the songs on the soundtrack, but I can't believe there is one, that's not played in almost it's entirety during the movie.
My gf, who really wanted to see it, agreed it was bad, but said she enjoyed it. So it's prob one of those you can enjoy if that's your type of movie. I'm not the biggest fan of action movies, and esp. action movies where everything must work (although all the things are very likely not to if it was remotely real) to foil the bad guys.
I thought the movie was terrible.
The dialog was some of the worst-cheesiest lines I've heard.
LL Cool J alone ruins a movie for me.
He even managed to do it in Halloween H20.. Constant music, I haven't seen a list of the songs on the soundtrack, but I can't believe there is one, that's not played in almost it's entirety during the movie.
My gf, who really wanted to see it, agreed it was bad, but said she enjoyed it. So it's prob one of those you can enjoy if that's your type of movie. I'm not the biggest fan of action movies, and esp. action movies where everything must work (although all the things are very likely not to if it was remotely real) to foil the bad guys.
08-09-03, 08:00 PM
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Nothing all that compelling in this film, which is really just 2 acts, so it felt a bit abrupt in how it shifted gears from the beginning until it gets to the last half of the film. The character development is pretty thin, but with 6 SWAT team members, that would have been hard to pull off in under 2 hours. There wasn't as much tension as I'd hoped, and I never got pulled into the world of SWAT in a convincing manner.
I give it 2.5 stars, or a grade of C+.
I give it 2.5 stars, or a grade of C+.
08-09-03, 09:54 PM
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I guess I'm in the minority, because I really liked the film. I haven't seen too many movies this summer, but of the ones I've seen, this has been the best one.
The action was good and I'm glad that there weren't any lame "love story" plotlines. I'm glad Michelle Rodriguez' character and Colin Farrell's didn't hook up. It was nice having an action movie without the sexual undertones. Surprisingly, I actually thought Rodriguez looked kinda decent in the movie. Usually, I find her too masculine or pissed off (which admittedly, she has that pissed off look in this movie too) to be attractive. But there were times in the movie where she was attractive.
The whole plot was a little ridiculous, but it was entertaining and somewhat believable. I thought the acting was decent and I'm really beginning to like Colin Farrell's work.
The only gripes that I can think of are:
Those are the only gripes that come to mind. Overall, I thought it was a very entertaining movie and I was never bored for a single minute of the movie.
I was also disappointed with the PG-13 rating, but I'm sure that was done to bring in a wider audience. I'm 99% sure that we'll get an R-rated or Director's Cut version for the DVD release at one point or another, though. Then we can see
The action was good and I'm glad that there weren't any lame "love story" plotlines. I'm glad Michelle Rodriguez' character and Colin Farrell's didn't hook up. It was nice having an action movie without the sexual undertones. Surprisingly, I actually thought Rodriguez looked kinda decent in the movie. Usually, I find her too masculine or pissed off (which admittedly, she has that pissed off look in this movie too) to be attractive. But there were times in the movie where she was attractive.
The whole plot was a little ridiculous, but it was entertaining and somewhat believable. I thought the acting was decent and I'm really beginning to like Colin Farrell's work.
The only gripes that I can think of are:
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Those are the only gripes that come to mind. Overall, I thought it was a very entertaining movie and I was never bored for a single minute of the movie.
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I was also disappointed with the PG-13 rating, but I'm sure that was done to bring in a wider audience. I'm 99% sure that we'll get an R-rated or Director's Cut version for the DVD release at one point or another, though. Then we can see
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08-10-03, 03:43 AM
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Alright movie but oh my god I wanted to kill Olivier Martinez. Not because he was bad or evil or wore white after Labor day but because he was so annoying!! Every time he opened his mouth i wanted to beat him into submission, cut out his tounge, curb him and then submit his to slow painful chinese water torture.
08-10-03, 01:54 PM
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I thought that I should see it because it is the last action movie of the summer; I'm eagerly awaiting all the horror releases.
Surprisingly fun. The only thing I didn't like was the premise, no way would they air a criminal saying something like that, but oh well.
Grade: B
Surprisingly fun. The only thing I didn't like was the premise, no way would they air a criminal saying something like that, but oh well.
Grade: B
08-10-03, 02:44 PM
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Originally posted by jonpeters
I thought that I should see it because it is the last action movie of the summer; I'm eagerly awaiting all the horror releases.
Surprisingly fun. The only thing I didn't like was the premise, no way would they air a criminal saying something like that, but oh well.
Grade: B
I thought that I should see it because it is the last action movie of the summer; I'm eagerly awaiting all the horror releases.
Surprisingly fun. The only thing I didn't like was the premise, no way would they air a criminal saying something like that, but oh well.
Grade: B
08-10-03, 03:02 PM
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Originally posted by jonpeters
The only thing I didn't like was the premise, no way would they air a criminal saying something like that, but oh well.
The only thing I didn't like was the premise, no way would they air a criminal saying something like that, but oh well.
[By the way, initially they were broadcasting Live...]
08-10-03, 07:27 PM
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Saw it last night Grade C+. Not bad but much lost potential. They made such an issue of Michelle Rodriguezes' character being a badass but they never put her into a position to show it. She should have kicked someones ass at some point!!
Had the feel of a TV movie or a pilot for a TV show.
Had the feel of a TV movie or a pilot for a TV show.
08-10-03, 10:31 PM
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man was i dissappointed! argh, i was expecting a non stop action fest. instead i got 1.5 hrs of lame conversations and 'how to be a swat member' documentary crap.
i thought this movie would be mostly about how the team defends against all those bad guys trying to rescue the other bad guy. that ended up being like 10 minutes.
the last 20 minutes was pretty cool but overall i was dissappointed. had very high expectations.
i give it a 5/10.
the best part of the night for me was defintely the underworld trailer. OMG that looks sweet!!
i thought this movie would be mostly about how the team defends against all those bad guys trying to rescue the other bad guy. that ended up being like 10 minutes.
the last 20 minutes was pretty cool but overall i was dissappointed. had very high expectations.
i give it a 5/10.
the best part of the night for me was defintely the underworld trailer. OMG that looks sweet!!
08-10-03, 10:39 PM
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Originally posted by Rogue588
This movie wasn't dreadful. Dreadful was Bad Boys II. [If you want to compare "mindless" popcorn flicks.]
This movie wasn't dreadful. Dreadful was Bad Boys II. [If you want to compare "mindless" popcorn flicks.]
08-11-03, 12:15 AM
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Originally posted by atari2600
no way. bb2 was waaaay better than swat!
no way. bb2 was waaaay better than swat!
I found SWAT to be more enjoyable. Why? Because it didn't have such a bloated running time. Pretty simple reason, actually.
08-11-03, 12:56 AM
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Originally posted by immortal_zeus
I guess I'm in the minority, because I really liked the film. I haven't seen too many movies this summer, but of the ones I've seen, this has been the best one.
I guess I'm in the minority, because I really liked the film. I haven't seen too many movies this summer, but of the ones I've seen, this has been the best one.
08-11-03, 10:11 AM
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My main complaint was that after the training test on the plane, there was absolutely nothing tactical. You'd think that a movie about "Special Weapons And Tactics" would have some "Special Tactics" in it rather than just running/chasing and shooting.
08-23-03, 08:39 PM
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Originally posted by Goldberg74
Saw it last night... I liked it.
I was a little weirded out seeing the-Elijah-Wood-look a-like-with-tatoos-as-the-ex-SWAT-turned-bad-guy in the film.
It was good to see Ashley Scott again... albeit it was only about 3 mins.
All in all I give it for just being a little more real than it should have been.
Saw it last night... I liked it.
I was a little weirded out seeing the-Elijah-Wood-look a-like-with-tatoos-as-the-ex-SWAT-turned-bad-guy in the film.
It was good to see Ashley Scott again... albeit it was only about 3 mins.
Spoiler:
All in all I give it
for just being a little more real than it should have been.