Batman short film... anyone else heard of this?
07-21-03, 06:27 PM
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I liked it... and at the same time, I really didn't.
I know that the primary reason behind this film was to showcase the director's talents and get people to take notice. It succeeded there, brilliantly.
For me, it had too much of that "Kevin Smith, fan boy on overload feel" (oy), and that's not what gets me excited. No wonder Smith declared it the "best" - it's totally up his alley (no pun intended
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The surprises kept rolling out instead of just taking six minutes to tell really good story, and it hurt the film for me (will anyone focus on his detective skills, aside from the animated series?). Hell, keep the surprises, but save them for the very end where it's more dramatically effective.
The costume looked great. I like the black belt a lot. I could take or leave the trunks.
It's a fun entry, but hardly the best Batman on film. That title either goes to "Mask of the Phantasm", or the live-action film that they have yet to get right... whenever that happens.
Maybe they can outdo themseves with a sequel to "Dead End".
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I know that the primary reason behind this film was to showcase the director's talents and get people to take notice. It succeeded there, brilliantly.
For me, it had too much of that "Kevin Smith, fan boy on overload feel" (oy), and that's not what gets me excited. No wonder Smith declared it the "best" - it's totally up his alley (no pun intended
).The surprises kept rolling out instead of just taking six minutes to tell really good story, and it hurt the film for me (will anyone focus on his detective skills, aside from the animated series?). Hell, keep the surprises, but save them for the very end where it's more dramatically effective.
The costume looked great. I like the black belt a lot. I could take or leave the trunks.
It's a fun entry, but hardly the best Batman on film. That title either goes to "Mask of the Phantasm", or the live-action film that they have yet to get right... whenever that happens.
Maybe they can outdo themseves with a sequel to "Dead End".
Gary
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07-21-03, 06:44 PM
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I wish Fox and WB would team up, hire everyone who worked on this film and pair the director with a better writer since the concept can be fleshed out effectively, giving us not only action but an insightful look into Batman's mind and showcase his detective skills.
With a talented enough writer they can actually cater to the thinking-man's crowd along with the balls-to-the-wall action crowd and still keep WB/Fox happy with all the toyline/movies cross-promotion tie-ins they could ever want.
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07-21-03, 06:50 PM
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Well, I liked it. 
I HATE Quicktime... how do you save on this POS?
With that said ...
I think Batman looks good especially if you think of him being in his early years of training. I did find Joker annyong and the makeup didn't work for me. It was too much.
I HATE Quicktime... how do you save on this POS?
With that said ...
I think Batman looks good especially if you think of him being in his early years of training. I did find Joker annyong and the makeup didn't work for me. It was too much.
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07-21-03, 06:52 PM
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Originally posted by RocShemp
I wish Fox and WB would team up, hire everyone who worked on this film and pair the director with a better writer since the concept can be fleshed out effectively, giving us not only action but an insightful look into Batman's mind and showcase his detective skills.
With a telented enough writer they can actually cater to the thinking-man's crowd along with the balls-to-the-wall action crowd an still keep WB/Fox happy with all the toyline/movies corss-promotion tie-ins they could ever want.
I wish Fox and WB would team up, hire everyone who worked on this film and pair the director with a better writer since the concept can be fleshed out effectively, giving us not only action but an insightful look into Batman's mind and showcase his detective skills.
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it was a SHORT!
07-21-03, 07:00 PM
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Admit it, Giantrobo. You know you'd watch a feature-length movie like that as much as I would.
07-21-03, 08:18 PM
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I just got through watching this film. As someone who knows nothing about the Batmany mythos and is really only a fan of comic book movies instead of the books themselves, I thought the film looked pretty good.
I'm gonna agree w/ the few who said the suit looked a little cheesey, but that's why looks like that stay in the comic books and don't get literally translated to the screen. I half hoped to see some text bubbles saying, "BAM!", "WHACK", and "POW" to come up when he was fighting the Predator, but no such luck. I enjoyed it simply as a short film, but if that's his look in the next full-length film I'm probably gonna be disappointed.
I'm gonna agree w/ the few who said the suit looked a little cheesey, but that's why looks like that stay in the comic books and don't get literally translated to the screen. I half hoped to see some text bubbles saying, "BAM!", "WHACK", and "POW" to come up when he was fighting the Predator, but no such luck. I enjoyed it simply as a short film, but if that's his look in the next full-length film I'm probably gonna be disappointed.
07-21-03, 09:01 PM
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Originally posted by RocShemp
I wish Fox and WB would team up, hire everyone who worked on this film and pair the director with a better writer since the concept can be fleshed out effectively, giving us not only action but an insightful look into Batman's mind and showcase his detective skills.
With a talented enough writer they can actually cater to the thinking-man's crowd along with the balls-to-the-wall action crowd and still keep WB/Fox happy with all the toyline/movies cross-promotion tie-ins they could ever want.
I wish Fox and WB would team up, hire everyone who worked on this film and pair the director with a better writer since the concept can be fleshed out effectively, giving us not only action but an insightful look into Batman's mind and showcase his detective skills.
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I'd rather jus thave FOX get off their lazy arse and get moving with an alien vs predator film.
07-21-03, 09:02 PM
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Mmmm.... it rates an "okay" with me. It didn't blow me away, and some of it was just plain silly. The fight sequences weren't that good, and Bats looks too outclassed. There were shots that totally came from the pencils of Dave Mazzucelli.
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Started out cool.
Then you know who pops out of nowhere and does you know what to the Joker.
It looked like bad sketch comedy.....but it wasn't.
I guess for something that's free, I really shouldn't complain but I can't say I enjoyed the whole thing. I like Batman, Aliens and Predators but not all together. I guess it was fun but incredibly stupid at the same time.
Oh well.
Then you know who pops out of nowhere and does you know what to the Joker.
It looked like bad sketch comedy.....but it wasn't.
I guess for something that's free, I really shouldn't complain but I can't say I enjoyed the whole thing. I like Batman, Aliens and Predators but not all together. I guess it was fun but incredibly stupid at the same time.
Oh well.
07-22-03, 12:06 AM
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Originally posted by PacMan2006
I'm downloading this right now...but I'm curious...how does a guy get clearance to make a movie about such a big name as Batman?
I'm downloading this right now...but I'm curious...how does a guy get clearance to make a movie about such a big name as Batman?
fair use. aslong as he makes no cash out of it.. it's all good
07-22-03, 12:14 AM
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I thought the short was okay. I'm not a huge Batman fan to begin with.
I didn't read any of the posts, so I almost started laughing when I saw the alien. And then a predator. Geesh.
Anyway, I'd much rather see an AvP movie before a AvPvBatman story.
I didn't read any of the posts, so I almost started laughing when I saw the alien. And then a predator. Geesh.
Anyway, I'd much rather see an AvP movie before a AvPvBatman story.
07-22-03, 01:37 AM
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I thought it was awesome. The Joker's makeup was amazing. I'd really like to see more from whoever did this.
07-22-03, 01:52 AM
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Originally posted by RocShemp
Admit it, Giantrobo. You know you'd watch a feature-length movie like that as much as I would.
Admit it, Giantrobo. You know you'd watch a feature-length movie like that as much as I would.
07-22-03, 01:53 AM
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Originally posted by Patman
Mmmm.... it rates an "okay" with me. It didn't blow me away, and some of it was just plain silly. The fight sequences weren't that good, and Bats looks too outclassed. There were shots that totally came from the pencils of Dave Mazzucelli.
Mmmm.... it rates an "okay" with me. It didn't blow me away, and some of it was just plain silly. The fight sequences weren't that good, and Bats looks too outclassed. There were shots that totally came from the pencils of Dave Mazzucelli.
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07-22-03, 02:24 AM
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Originally posted by fumanstan
Personally, i think he looks pretty dorky in the pictures. Yes, that's how Batman would look if his costume was translated straight from the comics. But that doesn't mean its a good thing. I get no sense of a "Dark Knight" in those pictures. In fact, it looks like a 30 dollar halloween costume. I think the rubber suits definatly made Batman more imposing in the movies. Anyway, this just reinforces the joke in X-Men about wearing spandax. Without the abnormal physiques drawn in comic books, most heros look goofy
Personally, i think he looks pretty dorky in the pictures. Yes, that's how Batman would look if his costume was translated straight from the comics. But that doesn't mean its a good thing. I get no sense of a "Dark Knight" in those pictures. In fact, it looks like a 30 dollar halloween costume. I think the rubber suits definatly made Batman more imposing in the movies. Anyway, this just reinforces the joke in X-Men about wearing spandax. Without the abnormal physiques drawn in comic books, most heros look goofy
Yes, that is the man under the cowl.
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07-22-03, 04:44 AM
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Ok, after spending about 3 hours d/ling the QT (Yes, crappy dial-up), I found that I didn't have the right 'decoder' and of course no other media software supports QT, so I had to D/L the QT software upgrade for another hour. It is now almost 3AM and I finally got to watch the short. All-in-all I found it enjoyable. I realize that it was a short and was intended to showcase the director/crew talent, but man it left me wanting more!!! I liked the costume except for the flimsy long sleeve shirt. When he was suiting up I felt that was very distracting... to used to the movie versions I guess. I loved the stand-up shot where his cape is all around him... that was awesome. I thought that the fight scenes were good, but that it was way too short. Batman fighting a Predator would take MUCH longer than that IMHO, and would involve more moving around, as someone mentioned before.
Now I have to get to sleep. Work in the morning you know.
Now I have to get to sleep. Work in the morning you know.
07-22-03, 05:07 AM
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Originally posted by Revoltor
Started out cool.
Then you know who pops out of nowhere and does you know what to the Joker.
It looked like bad sketch comedy.....but it wasn't.
I guess for something that's free, I really shouldn't complain but I can't say I enjoyed the whole thing. I like Batman, Aliens and Predators but not all together. I guess it was fun but incredibly stupid at the same time.
Oh well.
Started out cool.
Then you know who pops out of nowhere and does you know what to the Joker.
It looked like bad sketch comedy.....but it wasn't.
I guess for something that's free, I really shouldn't complain but I can't say I enjoyed the whole thing. I like Batman, Aliens and Predators but not all together. I guess it was fun but incredibly stupid at the same time.
Oh well.
Exactly what I was thinking. Some good shots at the beginning but after the
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07-22-03, 08:44 AM
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I thought it was great. A great showcase of some talents and I approve of Bats costume (maybe if you didn't make it look so "cheap", he IS a millionaire after all). My GF hated the costume, but she's a huge fan of Burton's first movie. We both agreed the concept AND the actor who played Joker was far, far better than Jack in the movie.
07-22-03, 09:12 AM
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Very impressive! Everyone has some criticism, but for
the most part still it is VERY SWEET!
I wonder how much a small film like this cost to produce. I imagine this director will be signed by a studio?
the most part still it is VERY SWEET!
I wonder how much a small film like this cost to produce. I imagine this director will be signed by a studio?
07-22-03, 09:42 AM
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Originally posted by DeputyDave
We both agreed the concept AND the actor who played Joker was far, far better than Jack in the movie.
We both agreed the concept AND the actor who played Joker was far, far better than Jack in the movie.