"The Passion" Trailer
07-18-03, 12:04 AM
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Originally posted by Scot1458
6) I think you mean Heberew doesn't have punctuation in it, I believe Greek does. And it's not a difficult language to read. Again,you may be thinking of Hebrew.
6) I think you mean Heberew doesn't have punctuation in it, I believe Greek does. And it's not a difficult language to read. Again,you may be thinking of Hebrew.
(snip)...b/c Greek had no punctuation in it, so it is virtually impossible to interpret the tone of voice that was used by Jesus during many passages or even the tone used by the disciples.
That part, I don't follow.
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07-18-03, 10:02 AM
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Originally posted by Parcher
Can anyone clarify how "ecce h0mo" would be pronounced? Ekke or Etche? Thanks.
Can anyone clarify how "ecce h0mo" would be pronounced? Ekke or Etche? Thanks.
07-18-03, 10:14 AM
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I'm no linguist, for sure. Ecce has a similar structure to bocce, which is pronounced "botchie". Not sure if the same rules would apply, but I thought I'd throw that out there.
07-18-03, 10:18 AM
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Originally posted by Stoolie
I'm no linguist, for sure. Ecce has a similar structure to bocce, which is pronounced "botchie". Not sure if the same rules would apply, but I thought I'd throw that out there.
I'm no linguist, for sure. Ecce has a similar structure to bocce, which is pronounced "botchie". Not sure if the same rules would apply, but I thought I'd throw that out there.
07-18-03, 10:50 AM
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Ill be there to see this one. Im leaning twords not having subtitles for this one because the visual experince alone looks really awesome. The stepping on the snake head was an awesome scene. And the pale chick looks pretty creepy.
Cant wait to see this one.
Cant wait to see this one.
07-18-03, 11:44 AM
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Originally posted by Kal Jedi
But but...isn't bocce from a galaxy far, far away?
But but...isn't bocce from a galaxy far, far away?
07-18-03, 02:01 PM
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Originally posted by reubs82
Also, to say that the Bible must be taken literally today does not hold b/c Greek had no punctuation in it, so it is virtually impossible to interpret the tone of voice that was used by Jesus during many passages or even the tone used by the disciples.
Also, to say that the Bible must be taken literally today does not hold b/c Greek had no punctuation in it, so it is virtually impossible to interpret the tone of voice that was used by Jesus during many passages or even the tone used by the disciples.
07-18-03, 02:26 PM
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Originally posted by reubs82
What I mean right here is no different than someone coming on here making a sarcastic post and not leaving any sort of indication that they are being sarcastic. Imagine how much easier these ancient texts would be to interpret if they had smilies or even an (!) or (?) following them. This of course is just something that I've thought about and talked over with my professors. Whether there is any scholarly work on that theory is unknown to me.
What I mean right here is no different than someone coming on here making a sarcastic post and not leaving any sort of indication that they are being sarcastic. Imagine how much easier these ancient texts would be to interpret if they had smilies or even an (!) or (?) following them. This of course is just something that I've thought about and talked over with my professors. Whether there is any scholarly work on that theory is unknown to me.
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07-18-03, 08:24 PM
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This kind of negative buzz is pretty outrageous.
This kind of negative buzz is pretty outrageous.
07-19-03, 12:25 AM
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Yeah I know. Whens the last time the mainstream audience said "This is too violent!"
Yeah I know. Whens the last time the mainstream audience said "This is too violent!"
Now it's going to "ruin" Mel's film. Mark my words, this movie will be a target.
07-23-03, 09:33 PM
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The trailer for 'The Passion' irritated me for many reasons. First, EVERYONE is white! Is there no concept of realism in Hollywood? I agree that this was perhaps done to make the film more marketable but I was at least looking for one movie where Jesus was played by an actor who looked like he could be from that part of the world, not pale skinned Irish lads with American accents!! I truly despise Mel Gibson's 'directing talents' but maybe he'll step up here. The lead actor is very underrated but all 'white boy' and that totally goes against the nature of the true story. Is there anyone who agrees? I am one of the few people who think that the entire 'Star Wars' series has only served to reinforce racial stereotypes and preconceived notions (the whole white versus black thing was taken to an alltime high in that series), and this new "The Passion" seems to suffer the same casting problems. I think Mel Gibson will succeed either way if people love or hate this movie to extremes. But if people are going to be indifferent toward it, then hes lost. And using music by Peter Gabriel who composed the soundtrack to the masterwork 'The Last Temptation of Christ' does NOT do the film any favors. That track should have stayed on the "Rabbit Proof Fence" soundtrack.
07-23-03, 09:42 PM
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By the way, I also found out that the film has been made in the language ARAMAIC and DOES NOT feature subtitles. Maybe some of you knew this but this is news to me. Do you think this is a wise, artistic decision or just Mel Gibson being sucky?
07-23-03, 10:06 PM
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Originally posted by BBEANLPHIE
I already know what the next DVDTALK scholar will nitpick about!!!
Why are there mostly White actors when they should all be middle eastern looking and dark skinned? Its the same thing as casting Tom Hanks as Saddam Hussein Wearing a T shirt saying dvdtalk!
Heh.. Some people can never be pleased unless its utterly perfect and Flawless
I already know what the next DVDTALK scholar will nitpick about!!!
Why are there mostly White actors when they should all be middle eastern looking and dark skinned? Its the same thing as casting Tom Hanks as Saddam Hussein Wearing a T shirt saying dvdtalk!
Heh.. Some people can never be pleased unless its utterly perfect and Flawless
07-23-03, 10:07 PM
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No subtitles?
umm...i'm confused
ANYways...I wasn't really interested in seeing this flick...the trailer was ehh okay, I suppose. But, after seeing some reports on the "controversy" surrounding it and the so called "experts" denouncing it without even SEEING IT, i've decided it'll be good enough for a matinee viewing.
It's the least I could do for all the other entertaining movies that Mel's been a part of...
umm...i'm confused
ANYways...I wasn't really interested in seeing this flick...the trailer was ehh okay, I suppose. But, after seeing some reports on the "controversy" surrounding it and the so called "experts" denouncing it without even SEEING IT, i've decided it'll be good enough for a matinee viewing.
It's the least I could do for all the other entertaining movies that Mel's been a part of...
07-24-03, 11:13 AM
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Originally posted by Cottington
The trailer for 'The Passion' irritated me for many reasons. First, EVERYONE is white! Is there no concept of realism in Hollywood? I agree that this was perhaps done to make the film more marketable but I was at least looking for one movie where Jesus was played by an actor who looked like he could be from that part of the world, not pale skinned Irish lads with American accents!! I truly despise Mel Gibson's 'directing talents' but maybe he'll step up here. The lead actor is very underrated but all 'white boy' and that totally goes against the nature of the true story. Is there anyone who agrees? I am one of the few people who think that the entire 'Star Wars' series has only served to reinforce racial stereotypes and preconceived notions (the whole white versus black thing was taken to an alltime high in that series), and this new "The Passion" seems to suffer the same casting problems. I think Mel Gibson will succeed either way if people love or hate this movie to extremes. But if people are going to be indifferent toward it, then hes lost. And using music by Peter Gabriel who composed the soundtrack to the masterwork 'The Last Temptation of Christ' does NOT do the film any favors. That track should have stayed on the "Rabbit Proof Fence" soundtrack.
The trailer for 'The Passion' irritated me for many reasons. First, EVERYONE is white! Is there no concept of realism in Hollywood? I agree that this was perhaps done to make the film more marketable but I was at least looking for one movie where Jesus was played by an actor who looked like he could be from that part of the world, not pale skinned Irish lads with American accents!! I truly despise Mel Gibson's 'directing talents' but maybe he'll step up here. The lead actor is very underrated but all 'white boy' and that totally goes against the nature of the true story. Is there anyone who agrees? I am one of the few people who think that the entire 'Star Wars' series has only served to reinforce racial stereotypes and preconceived notions (the whole white versus black thing was taken to an alltime high in that series), and this new "The Passion" seems to suffer the same casting problems. I think Mel Gibson will succeed either way if people love or hate this movie to extremes. But if people are going to be indifferent toward it, then hes lost. And using music by Peter Gabriel who composed the soundtrack to the masterwork 'The Last Temptation of Christ' does NOT do the film any favors. That track should have stayed on the "Rabbit Proof Fence" soundtrack.
07-24-03, 12:16 PM
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Originally posted by Cottington
I am one of the few people who think that the entire 'Star Wars' series has only served to reinforce racial stereotypes and preconceived notions (the whole white versus black thing was taken to an alltime high in that series)
I am one of the few people who think that the entire 'Star Wars' series has only served to reinforce racial stereotypes and preconceived notions (the whole white versus black thing was taken to an alltime high in that series)
Funniest stuff I've read in a long time. Thanks.
07-24-03, 07:32 PM
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"I find this sad," said ADL National Director Abraham Foxman, who hasn't been permitted to see the movie. "Here's a man who appeals to the mass audience, but he feels he has to surround himself with a cordon sanitaire of people who back him theologically and maybe ideologically and will stand up and be supportive when the time comes. My request still stands: I would like to see the movie, and if it turns out I was wrong, I'll be the first to say so."
What's really sad about Foxman is his last sentence. What loser attacks a movie without having seen it first (like Jesse Jackson with Barbershop). How can you respect a guy like Foxman?
What's really sad about Foxman is his last sentence. What loser attacks a movie without having seen it first (like Jesse Jackson with Barbershop). How can you respect a guy like Foxman?
