What's the oldest movie you can name that had Matrix or the Matrix in it?
07-10-03, 10:19 PM
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What's the oldest movie you can name that had Matrix or the Matrix in it?
For me the 1981 Movie "Looker" with Albert Finney, Susan Dey, James Coburn.
The movie had a reference to a company called Matrix Inc. which made up computer generated people for TV commercials. A L.O.O.K.E.R. gun was used that used to kill fashion models. Coburn starred as a man that used a highly developed form of subliminal suggestion in the eyes of his computer generated models, seen by a 'captured' audience on a TV.
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The movie had a reference to a company called Matrix Inc. which made up computer generated people for TV commercials. A L.O.O.K.E.R. gun was used that used to kill fashion models. Coburn starred as a man that used a highly developed form of subliminal suggestion in the eyes of his computer generated models, seen by a 'captured' audience on a TV.
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07-10-03, 11:04 PM
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Gee, the television show "Doctor Who" has a computer network called "the matrix" that stores the collected intelligence of the Time Lords, all their biodata and knowledge. In one story, the Doctor inserts himself into the dream world (not yet known as virtual reality) via an electronic connection, and does battle with the bad guy who has created a world inside the matrix.
That story was "The Deadly Assassin" and it was broadcast in 1976.
Yes, it most certainly is one reason why I disliked the movie "The Matrix".
That story was "The Deadly Assassin" and it was broadcast in 1976.
Yes, it most certainly is one reason why I disliked the movie "The Matrix".
07-11-03, 12:57 AM
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Danol, this has to be one of the worst threads yet. What next? Will we be thinking of films where someone says 'Pirates'? Or was 'terminated'?
As for the subject. Maybe the Creation Matrix in Transformers? Matrix in Commando?
As for the subject. Maybe the Creation Matrix in Transformers? Matrix in Commando?
07-11-03, 01:31 PM
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From imdb.com:
The 1924 silent film classic "The Matrix of Terror" which starred the Marx Brothers as three madcap vaudevillians who discover their world is actually a highly sophisticated "pictograph" machine run by the Bolsheviks. Little-known for actually featuring the first use of "Wire-fu" in a scene involving President Calvin Coolidge and a monkey.
The 1924 silent film classic "The Matrix of Terror" which starred the Marx Brothers as three madcap vaudevillians who discover their world is actually a highly sophisticated "pictograph" machine run by the Bolsheviks. Little-known for actually featuring the first use of "Wire-fu" in a scene involving President Calvin Coolidge and a monkey.
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Originally posted by Sierra Disc
From imdb.com:
The 1924 silent film classic "The Matrix of Terror" which starred the Marx Brothers as three madcap vaudevillians who discover their world is actually a highly sophisticated "pictograph" machine run by the Bolsheviks. Little-known for actually featuring the first use of "Wire-fu" in a scene involving President Calvin Coolidge and a monkey.
From imdb.com:
The 1924 silent film classic "The Matrix of Terror" which starred the Marx Brothers as three madcap vaudevillians who discover their world is actually a highly sophisticated "pictograph" machine run by the Bolsheviks. Little-known for actually featuring the first use of "Wire-fu" in a scene involving President Calvin Coolidge and a monkey.
07-11-03, 11:50 PM
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Uh. Yeah.
But seriously, what ARE the earliest representations of virtual reality on screen? (Sorry to change your thread, Danol, but it was going nowhere...
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The novel "Simulacron - 3" by Daniel F Galouye was from 1964. Both "Welt am Draht" and "The Thirteenth Floor" were based on it.
1973: Welt am Draht (World on a Wire)
1976: Doctor Who "The Deadly Assassin"
1981: Looker
1982: Tron
1983: Brainstorm
1985: Overdrawn at the Memory Bank
1987: Captain Power and the Soldiers of the Future "Shattered"
Any pre-1990 others that fit?
But seriously, what ARE the earliest representations of virtual reality on screen? (Sorry to change your thread, Danol, but it was going nowhere...
)The novel "Simulacron - 3" by Daniel F Galouye was from 1964. Both "Welt am Draht" and "The Thirteenth Floor" were based on it.
1973: Welt am Draht (World on a Wire)
1976: Doctor Who "The Deadly Assassin"
1981: Looker
1982: Tron
1983: Brainstorm
1985: Overdrawn at the Memory Bank
1987: Captain Power and the Soldiers of the Future "Shattered"
Any pre-1990 others that fit?
07-12-03, 02:19 AM
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Originally posted by shill66
Uh. Yeah.
But seriously, what ARE the earliest representations of virtual reality on screen? (Sorry to change your thread, Danol, but it was going nowhere... )
The novel "Simulacron - 3" by Daniel F Galouye was from 1964. Both "Welt am Draht" and "The Thirteenth Floor" were based on it.
1973: Welt am Draht (World on a Wire)
1976: Doctor Who "The Deadly Assassin"
1981: Looker
1982: Tron
1983: Brainstorm
1985: Overdrawn at the Memory Bank
1987: Captain Power and the Soldiers of the Future "Shattered"
Any pre-1990 others that fit?
Uh. Yeah.
But seriously, what ARE the earliest representations of virtual reality on screen? (Sorry to change your thread, Danol, but it was going nowhere...
)The novel "Simulacron - 3" by Daniel F Galouye was from 1964. Both "Welt am Draht" and "The Thirteenth Floor" were based on it.
1973: Welt am Draht (World on a Wire)
1976: Doctor Who "The Deadly Assassin"
1981: Looker
1982: Tron
1983: Brainstorm
1985: Overdrawn at the Memory Bank
1987: Captain Power and the Soldiers of the Future "Shattered"
Any pre-1990 others that fit?
07-12-03, 03:10 AM
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Originally posted by eedoon
Interesting. Anyone knows when Star Trek shows holodeck for the first time?
Interesting. Anyone knows when Star Trek shows holodeck for the first time?
07-12-03, 11:11 AM
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Originally posted by El-Kabong
Does the cartoon count? I remember one episode where the Enterprise went through a cloud that gave the ship's computer advanced AI. And a couple of the Big Name Stars were. . . you guessed - trapped in the middle a holodeck simulation gone wrong.
Does the cartoon count? I remember one episode where the Enterprise went through a cloud that gave the ship's computer advanced AI. And a couple of the Big Name Stars were. . . you guessed - trapped in the middle a holodeck simulation gone wrong.
07-12-03, 01:20 PM
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Originally posted by eedoon
I guess, but I also wanted to know the debut of the holodeck on the original series. (or is it being introduced on TNG?)
I guess, but I also wanted to know the debut of the holodeck on the original series. (or is it being introduced on TNG?)
) and I think it appears in the first episode.birrman54
07-12-03, 02:42 PM
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The holodeck was introduced officially in the TNG Pilot Encounter at Farpoint.
And speaking of Star Trek:
"I suppose it could be a particle of pre-animate matter caught in the matrix?"
ST2:TWOK
And speaking of Star Trek:
"I suppose it could be a particle of pre-animate matter caught in the matrix?"
ST2:TWOK
07-13-03, 03:29 AM
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1946's 'It's a Wonderful Life' offered an early view of the Matrix. In this unheralded sci-fi gem, Jimmy Stewart takes the role of George Bailey, who will someday be instrumental in the battle against the machines. The computers attempt to stop him before he can realize his destiny by creating a horrible existance around him, hoping he will kill himself. He is saved from suicide by an 'angel' program named Clarence, who takes him to an alternate "life" (actually a program in the construct). The key to the mission is that George must never discover the true nature of the Matrix, as his mind is not yet ready to handle the 'red pill'. It's a total mind f***, and it still amazes me how much of this film was plagiarized by the Wachowskis.
07-13-03, 04:45 AM
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Transformers: The Movie (1986). Have always loved that movie... and it had "The Matrix," that being the autobot matrix of leadership in it long before The Matrix movies came out...
Transformers: The Movie (1986). Have always loved that movie... and it had "The Matrix," that being the autobot matrix of leadership in it long before The Matrix movies came out...
07-14-03, 09:21 PM
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Originally posted by DRG
1946's 'It's a Wonderful Life' offered an early view of the Matrix. In this unheralded sci-fi gem, Jimmy Stewart takes the role of George Bailey, who will someday be instrumental in the battle against the machines. The computers attempt to stop him before he can realize his destiny by creating a horrible existance around him, hoping he will kill himself. He is saved from suicide by an 'angel' program named Clarence, who takes him to an alternate "life" (actually a program in the construct). The key to the mission is that George must never discover the true nature of the Matrix, as his mind is not yet ready to handle the 'red pill'. It's a total mind f***, and it still amazes me how much of this film was plagiarized by the Wachowskis.
1946's 'It's a Wonderful Life' offered an early view of the Matrix. In this unheralded sci-fi gem, Jimmy Stewart takes the role of George Bailey, who will someday be instrumental in the battle against the machines. The computers attempt to stop him before he can realize his destiny by creating a horrible existance around him, hoping he will kill himself. He is saved from suicide by an 'angel' program named Clarence, who takes him to an alternate "life" (actually a program in the construct). The key to the mission is that George must never discover the true nature of the Matrix, as his mind is not yet ready to handle the 'red pill'. It's a total mind f***, and it still amazes me how much of this film was plagiarized by the Wachowskis.
