Why is Matrix Rated R?
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I am glad it got an R rating. However, I think it will suffer domestically for it.
I seem to recall reading somewhere that Joel Silver wanted a PG-13 and it was the MPAA not giving it to them is why it was R, not the Wachowski's campaigining for an R.
Who knows. Could it be the Wachowskis might want to actually make a sci-fi/action movie that adults can enjoy without unsupervised adolescents running around and shooting off their mouths during the flick? (GASP!!!!) Heaven forbid we get a theater without teens making out in the row in front of you while a boy delivers a mule kick to another one in the aisleways with all of the girls running to the restroom in packs of 20 or more blocking your view all the way.
ricwhite: I am not making cracks at your son. IMO, I think that if he has seen the first one, take him to see it! My dad used to take me to see R movies when I was his (your son's) age and it really was a bonding experience. You'll be cooler in his eyes if you do it.
I seem to recall reading somewhere that Joel Silver wanted a PG-13 and it was the MPAA not giving it to them is why it was R, not the Wachowski's campaigining for an R.
Who knows. Could it be the Wachowskis might want to actually make a sci-fi/action movie that adults can enjoy without unsupervised adolescents running around and shooting off their mouths during the flick? (GASP!!!!) Heaven forbid we get a theater without teens making out in the row in front of you while a boy delivers a mule kick to another one in the aisleways with all of the girls running to the restroom in packs of 20 or more blocking your view all the way.
ricwhite: I am not making cracks at your son. IMO, I think that if he has seen the first one, take him to see it! My dad used to take me to see R movies when I was his (your son's) age and it really was a bonding experience. You'll be cooler in his eyes if you do it.
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Just FYI, the Canadian home video rating for the first Matrix is 14A. That rating is essentially an average of the ratings of the different provinces. It's not quite the same as the U.S. PG-13, because Canada enforces the age limit, but it does mean most Canadian teens can rent it without parental supervision.
Reloaded got a 14A in British Columbia, Alberta, Saskatchewan and the Maritime Provinces, and a 13+ in Quebec. I suspect it'll probably be 14A in Ontario too, but the Ontario Film Review Board hasn't posted it on their website yet. Again, this means a lot of Canadian teens will be able to see Reloaded without a parent.
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Reloaded got a 14A in British Columbia, Alberta, Saskatchewan and the Maritime Provinces, and a 13+ in Quebec. I suspect it'll probably be 14A in Ontario too, but the Ontario Film Review Board hasn't posted it on their website yet. Again, this means a lot of Canadian teens will be able to see Reloaded without a parent.
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Originally posted by ricwhite
Yes, I do have a problem with an R rated movie having toys and games aimed at youngsters.
Yes, I do have a problem with an R rated movie having toys and games aimed at youngsters.
Originally posted by RoboDad
[...] I also believe that the overwhelming majority of R movies are only R because (unnecessary) content is deliberately added to make them so.
[...] I also believe that the overwhelming majority of R movies are only R because (unnecessary) content is deliberately added to make them so.
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There are so many over 17 scifi nerds out there, the toys will sell inspite - tho keep in mind they aren't aimed at youngsters (and its clearly stated on the packaging). Also - the average videogame player age is now well over 20, and now that the M-rating is being enforced at many retailers, I don't see how either of these are being aimed at youngsters.
Oh and I also never saw why The Matrix was rated R. I think the MPAA is alright with violence as long as it isn't with guns. Get some strong gunfights going and its "bad".. seeing people minced by andomandium (sp?) claws is fine though.
Oh and I also never saw why The Matrix was rated R. I think the MPAA is alright with violence as long as it isn't with guns. Get some strong gunfights going and its "bad".. seeing people minced by andomandium (sp?) claws is fine though.
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Originally posted by RichC2
There are so many over 17 scifi nerds out there, the toys will sell inspite - tho keep in mind they aren't aimed at youngsters (and its clearly stated on the packaging). Also - the average videogame player age is now well over 20, and now that the M-rating is being enforced at many retailers, I don't see how either of these are being aimed at youngsters.
There are so many over 17 scifi nerds out there, the toys will sell inspite - tho keep in mind they aren't aimed at youngsters (and its clearly stated on the packaging). Also - the average videogame player age is now well over 20, and now that the M-rating is being enforced at many retailers, I don't see how either of these are being aimed at youngsters.
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Re: Why is Matrix Rated R?
Originally posted by ricwhite
My twelve year old son is really disappointed that he won't be able to see this movie.
My twelve year old son is really disappointed that he won't be able to see this movie.
She loved the first film (I ok'd her to watch it after having seen it a number of times).
So, for those that have actually seen it:
-is there nudity?
-how intense is the sex scene between Keanu and Carrie?
As far as I'm concerned, the violence from the first film almost seemed cartoon-like (though exceptionally well done, obviously).
Is the level of violence in the second film similar, or more graphic?
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I thought the movie, if anything, was LESS graphically violent than the first one. I believe there were only two gunshot wounds shown in this one, compared with the dozens of guards killed in the Lobby scene alone.
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Re: Re: Why is Matrix Rated R?
Originally posted by 12thmonkey
Likewise with my 12-yr-old daughter.
She loved the first film (I ok'd her to watch it after having seen it a number of times).
So, for those that have actually seen it:
-is there nudity?
-how intense is the sex scene between Keanu and Carrie?
As far as I'm concerned, the violence from the first film almost seemed cartoon-like (though exceptionally well done, obviously).
Is the level of violence in the second film similar, or more graphic?
Likewise with my 12-yr-old daughter.
She loved the first film (I ok'd her to watch it after having seen it a number of times).
So, for those that have actually seen it:
-is there nudity?
-how intense is the sex scene between Keanu and Carrie?
As far as I'm concerned, the violence from the first film almost seemed cartoon-like (though exceptionally well done, obviously).
Is the level of violence in the second film similar, or more graphic?
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Daredevil: PG-13 Action, Violence and Some Sexuality
Titanic: PG-13 Disaster related peril and violence, nudity, sensuality and brief language
Matrix Reloaded: R Sci-fi Violence and Some Sexuality
Go figure.
PG-13: Parents Strongly Cautioned. Some material may be inappropriate for children under 13. This signifies that the film rated may be inappropriate for pre-teens. Parents should be especially careful about letting their younger children attend. Rough or persistent violence is absent; sexually-oriented nudity is generally absent; some scenes of drug use may be seen; one use of the harsher sexually derived words may be heard.
R: Restricted-Under 17 requires accompanying parent or adult guardian (age varies in some locations). This signifies that the rating board has concluded that the film rated contains some adult material. Parents are urged to learn more about the film before taking their children to see it. An R may be assigned due to, among other things, a film's use of language, theme, violence, sex or its portrayal of drug use.
Titanic: PG-13 Disaster related peril and violence, nudity, sensuality and brief language
Matrix Reloaded: R Sci-fi Violence and Some Sexuality
Go figure.
PG-13: Parents Strongly Cautioned. Some material may be inappropriate for children under 13. This signifies that the film rated may be inappropriate for pre-teens. Parents should be especially careful about letting their younger children attend. Rough or persistent violence is absent; sexually-oriented nudity is generally absent; some scenes of drug use may be seen; one use of the harsher sexually derived words may be heard.
R: Restricted-Under 17 requires accompanying parent or adult guardian (age varies in some locations). This signifies that the rating board has concluded that the film rated contains some adult material. Parents are urged to learn more about the film before taking their children to see it. An R may be assigned due to, among other things, a film's use of language, theme, violence, sex or its portrayal of drug use.
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Originally posted by ricwhite
In my opinion, it would have been a much more financially successful series of movies and would have drawn a far more diverse audience if it were rated PG-13. In 2002, the top 14 money making movies were all PG-13 or under.
In my opinion, it would have been a much more financially successful series of movies and would have drawn a far more diverse audience if it were rated PG-13. In 2002, the top 14 money making movies were all PG-13 or under.
I'm also not sure why you prefaced this comment with the words "In my opinion." It's a pretty well established fact that PG-13 movies on average make more money than those rated R.
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Originally posted by ricwhite
But since the trilogy IS rated R, I'm still very curious as to why they are marketing the games, posters, and toys, to the pre-teen / teenage market. Nobody addressed that aspect yet. If the Wachowski Bros. were SO adamant that the movie be an "adult" rating of R, why did they relent and have the Matrix after market spin-offs be rated lower. Shouldn't the Matrix GAME be an "M" rating??? Why didn't they fight for that???? Double standard and inconsistent.
Yes, I do have a problem with an R rated movie having toys and games aimed at youngsters.
But since the trilogy IS rated R, I'm still very curious as to why they are marketing the games, posters, and toys, to the pre-teen / teenage market. Nobody addressed that aspect yet. If the Wachowski Bros. were SO adamant that the movie be an "adult" rating of R, why did they relent and have the Matrix after market spin-offs be rated lower. Shouldn't the Matrix GAME be an "M" rating??? Why didn't they fight for that???? Double standard and inconsistent.
Yes, I do have a problem with an R rated movie having toys and games aimed at youngsters.