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Old 04-18-03, 01:56 PM
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Originally posted by MrPeanut
I don't remember if The Third Man was considered American or not. It is a requirement, but loosely interpreted. Did it make the other lists?
I consider it a British film myself, but it made the AFI's top 100 list, so I figure Harry Lime would qualify for this one as well.
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Well, ToddSm66, now that you've listed the totality of cinema history...
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Eh, it's Friday and I've finished all my work...What else do I have to do...
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AFI's 100 YEARS...100 HEROES & VILLAINS TO PIT GOOD VERSUS EVIL IN SIXTH ANNUAL CBS TELEVISION EVENT

Special To Air Tuesday, June 3, 2003
Hosted by ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER

Among those interviewed for the special are Kathy Bates, Carl Bernstein, Erin Brockovich, Hayden Christensen, Wes Craven, Geena Davis, Kirk Douglas, Robert Englund, Sally Field, Louise Fletcher, Harrison Ford, Milos Forman, Jodie Foster, William Friedkin, Celeste Holm, Dennis Hopper, Frank Langella, Angela Lansbury, Janet Leigh, Elmore Leonard, Malcolm McDowell, Peter O’Toole, Christopher Reeve, Susan Sarandon, Ridley Scott, Sylvester Stallone, Oliver Stone and Sigourney Weaver.
Based on the guests alone, one can easily determine that making the list of 100 will be:
The Terminator
Ripley
Norman Bates
Superman
Darth Vadar
Indiana Jones
Rocky
Frank Booth

Okay, so maybe these are obvious selections anyway, but still.
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Fan Favorites I did note from this list include:
Indiana Jones
Obi-Wan Kenobi
Kahn Noonien Singh (ST II: Wrath of Kahn)
James T. Kirk
King Kong
Freddy Kruger
T.E. Lawrence (Lawrence of Arabia)
Dr. Hannibal Lecter (SOTL)
Harry Lime (The Third Man)
The Alien (Alien, Aliens, etc)
George Bailey (It's a Wonderful Life)
Rocky Balboa (Rocky)
Batman
"The Blob"
"Mr. Blonde" (Reservoir Dogs)
James Bond
Rhett Butler (Gone With The Wind)
Detective Harry Callahan (Dirty Harry)
Al Capone (Untouchables)
Inspector Jacques Clouseau (Pink Panther)
Michael/Vito Corleone (Godfather)
Sarah Conner (Terminator)
Alex DeLarge (A Clockwork Orange)
Tommy DeVito (Goodfellas)
The Dirty Dozen
John Doe (Se7en)
Andy Dufresne (Shawshank Redemption)
Dr. Evil
Atticus Finch (To Kill a Mockingbird)
Axel Foley (Beverly Hills Cop)
Gordon Gekko (Wall Street)
Hal 9000 (2001: A Space Odyssey)
Han Solo, Luke Skywalker, Darth Vader, Leia Organa (Star Wars)
Jaws (Both the shark and the villian from James Bond)
The Lone Ranger
The Magnificent Seven
Detective John McClane (Die Hard)
Michael Meyers (Halloween)
Moses (The Ten Commandments)
Neo (The Matrix)
Austin Powers
Mr. Potter (It's A Wonderful Life)
The Predator
Buford Pusser (Walking Tall)
Riggs and Murtaugh (Lethal Weapon, LW2, LW3, oddly not LW4)
Brigader General Jack D. Ripper (Dr. Strangelove)
Robin Hood (Errol Flynn's protrayal nominated)
Rudy Ruettiger (Rudy)
Jack Ryan (Patriot Games)
Antonio Salieri (Amadeus)
Oskar Schindler (Schindler's List)
John Shaft (Shaft)
Clarice Starling (SOTL)
Major Heinrich Strasser (Casablanca)
Superman
T-800 Terminaor (Nominated for both Villain/Hero), T-1000 Terminator (Villain)
Tarzan
The Thing
Lars Thorwald (Rear Window)
Dick Tracy
Catherine Tramell (Basic Instinct)
Vincent Vega and Jules Winnfield (Pulp Fiction)
Maria Von Trapp (Sound of Music)
Jason Voorhees (Friday the 13th: Part III is nominated?)
William Wallace (Braveheart)
The Wild Bunch
Shane and Jack Wilson (Shane)
The Wicked Witch of The West (Wizard of Oz)
Malcolm X
Zombies (Night of the Living Dead)
Zorro (Tyrone Power's portrayal in The Mark of Zorro)
Old 06-01-03, 08:38 PM
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Here is the list of all 400 nominees in a PDF:
http://www.afi.com/tv/pdf/handv400.pdf
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That's quite a list. Hopefully Star Wars won't top the list.
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I'd say that of the three most recognizable modern horror villians (Michael Meyers, Jason, Freddy) Michael Meyers wins because he was the first and Halloween is generally more liked by the critics.

Or maybe I'm smoking something funny...
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Hero....James Bond
Villan...Vader

nothing else will do.......
Old 06-02-03, 04:48 PM
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Question are they gonna rank it by movies
for example
1. Star wars Darth vader and luke sky walker
or
2. Luke skywalker
1. Darth Vader
or
top 50 villians 50-1
and
top 50 heros 50-1
I'm confused.
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Hmm..no mention on their website on HOW they are gonna present this. Just says top 50 of each.

I hope it is not a "villain tied to a hero" thing (Skywalker/Vader, etc) as mentioned earlier. That way they could recognize JAWS, but Chief Brody wouldn't HAVE to be on the list.

I like Bond and Vader as #1, but I don't think Bond is "American enough." (In the voter's eyes.) Maybe Indy and Vader?

Side Note : Now you can order all 100 AFI top movies on "quality VHS tapes!" Pluh-ease!

http://www.afi.com/tv/century/
Old 06-02-03, 06:17 PM
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The only reason for vhs is because not all movies are availible on dvd yet.
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Originally posted by Rypro 525
The only reason for vhs is because not all movies are availible on dvd yet.
I figured that was why, but I found two things funny...

The term Quality VHS, and the fact that everyone now knows about DVDs. I could see how some would want to own all of these films, but why buy on 8-track when you know CDs exist?

Part of a "gotta have it now" society I guess... I would hope (expect) all of these films would make it to DVD soon.
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Actually, the big rip off about that is the price: $2,600!

That's 25 bucks a tape with a 100 dollar shipping fee!
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from afi's website
"AFI's 100 Years...100 Heroes & Villains" will countdown America's 50 greatest heroes and 50 greatest villains in film, as chosen by experts of the motion picture community, in a three-hour television event on the CBS Television Network in June 2003. "

So it'll probably go 50. hero, 50 villian 49 hero, and so on.
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You cant use Agent Smith, the movie was made too late.

Here's my list of villains not named yet:

Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid / Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid (1969)
Dracula / Bram Stoker's Dracula (1992)
Sonny / Dog Day Afternoon (1975)
Frankenstein / Frankenstein (1931)
Jules and Vince / Pulp Fiction (1995)
Antonio Salieri / Amadeus (1984)

Just to name a few... btw HAL 9000 was a good choice lol. Definitely one of my favs.
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Originally posted by stoker904
You cant use Agent Smith, the movie was made too late.
Shrek and Alonzo from Training Day are both 2001 characters...considering that The Matrix came out in 1999, I'm guessing yeah, it could have qualified.
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Couple of great villains left off the master list: Jonathan Pryce as Mr. Dark in "Something Wicked This Way Comes" and Emilio Fernandez as Gen. Mapache in "The Wild Bunch".
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I wonder if Michael Corleone would be considered hero or villain?
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what time is this on tonight?
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8 pm et.
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Wow, didn't realize it was on tonight. Thanks for reminding me, Pants. Yahoo says 8 PM on CBS.
Old 06-03-03, 09:56 PM
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Wow!
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Atticus Finch as the hero and Hannible Lechter as the villian.
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Well, here's my take on the Top 3. I'll spoilerize it in case people hadn't seen it.

Spoiler:
I love Hannibal and Norman Bates, and I know I'm biased in favor of Darth Vader, but Vader is the #1 movie villian of all time. Hannibal, while a great villian in Red Dragon and Silence, is not as good as Vader. You could make a better case for Norman Bates as he's a great one. But I still say Vader is the #1 all time villian.

As for the heroes, I really have no problem with them. We have Atticus from To Kill a Mockingbird at number one. We have Indiana Jones at #2 or #3. Can't remember. No problems with that.


But overall it was a very entertaining show.
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I'm shocked that Luke Skywalker didn't make the cut but Han and Obi Wan did? And it was imbarrassment to have the horrific acting of Hadyen Christisan as Anikan during the Darth Vader thing.

James Bond was 3.


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