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Old 01-08-03, 08:39 PM   #1
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Just Watched "Back to the Future" Trilogy for the First Time Ever..

I know this may belong somewhere else but I think is is okay here, too.

I gotta say, I was impressed. I really enjoyed it. I loved how it felt like one big movie adventure instead of just the original, then sequels totally separate like I expected.

I saw the first film about six months ago and liked it. Today I rented part 2 and 3. I was pretty blown away by 2. It was genius to me. I really liked the overlap of a new movie blended with the original. Great idea. Part 3...to me, definitely not the best but it was still enjoyable due to the original characters.

I just have one question about part 3...why did Marty feel the need in 1955 to go back to get the Doc from 1885 and bring him back to 1985? Since he had the "other" Doc from 1955 (who helped him travel back to the old west), why not just get into the Delorean together and travel back from 1955 to 1985?

Either way, I enjoyed the series and probably will buy it sometime in the future (no pun intended, truly).
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Old 01-08-03, 08:50 PM   #2
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Well, the 1955 Doc Brown belonged in THAT time period. However, the Doc in 1855 is supposed to be the Doc in 1985. It's one of those time paradox thingies.
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Old 01-08-03, 08:58 PM   #3
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Huh huh...he said pair a Docs...huh huh...
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Old 01-08-03, 09:18 PM   #4
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He WAS going to leave doc in 1855, but then he discovered that only days after writing that letter to Marty, doc was murdered. Marty wanted to prevent docs murder, so that's why he went back in time again.
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Old 01-08-03, 10:39 PM   #5
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Hey guys, I don't remember the first film that well. So help me out a little here...

Isn't the 1955 Doc, who helped send Marty back to 1985 in the first movie, the SAME Doc who came back at the end of part 1 and whisked him away to the future and all the craziness that became part II? Therefore, when they eventually traveled back to 1955 (in part II, and both Doc's encountered each other but didn't see each other face to face), isn't the "1955 Doc" truly the 1985 Doc, only right before he traveled BACK to 1985 from 1955?

If so, then I dont understand why the 1955 Doc belonged in 1955. Because, if I remember correctly, the 1955 Doc was originally in 1985 when him and Marty went back in time in the first film.
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Old 01-08-03, 11:07 PM   #6
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The 1985 doc was the one at the end of BTTF1 who takes them off to the future. They go through their adventures, then both of them end back up in 1955. From there, 1985 doc gets zapped back to 1885 or something, and marty and 1955 doc are left. They send Marty back, story finishes off in part 3.
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Old 01-08-03, 11:35 PM   #7
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Re: Just Watched "Back to the Future" Trilogy for the First Time Ever..

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I was pretty blown away by 2. It was genius to me. I really liked the overlap of a new movie blended with the original. Great idea. Part 3...to me, definitely not the best but it was still enjoyable due to the original characters.
I agree with your assessment entirely. BTTF II is probably the most inspired sequel I've ever seen. To me, it's nearly as good as the original, loses some points to being overly silly with the future stuff, but it's all in good fun. (It ticks me off to think Part II would have been EVEN better if they devoted full energies to editing it instead of editing as a secondary project to filming the inferior Part III).

Seems like they were so clever on the first sequel, that the third film was just a "Let's do a Back to the Future in the Wild Wild West." All the characters and situations will be the same...but it will be a western.

Very few moments of inspiration there, but still highly watchable because of Michael J. Fox (the one playing Marty McFly, anyway) and because the characters are familiar.
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Old 01-09-03, 01:50 AM   #8
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Oh, I'm so confused!

Great trilogy, indeed!
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Old 01-09-03, 03:16 AM   #9
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As i have always said Part 2 + 3 were supposed to be a single movie but had to split up for budget reasons.

So there is BTTF 1

BTTF 2

& BTTF 2 part 2

If i remember correctly the orginal title for BTTF 2 was "Paradox: Back to the Future 2" and it was 2+3 combined.
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Old 01-09-03, 07:06 AM   #10
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'85 Doc and '85 Marty are the only* time travelers.


'55 Doc never leaves.




*(not counting '85 Einstein, '85 Jennifer and 2015 Biff)

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Old 01-09-03, 03:29 PM   #11
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As i have always said Part 2 + 3 were supposed to be a single movie but had to split up for budget reasons.

So there is BTTF 1

BTTF 2

& BTTF 2 part 2

If i remember correctly the orginal title for BTTF 2 was "Paradox: Back to the Future 2" and it was 2+3 combined.
Yeah, you can see in the Making-of Material, signs on the set for 2 say "Paradox", that was the working title.

And I think it's more like there's BTTF 1, BTTF 2, and BTTF 2 Crapified.
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Old 01-09-03, 03:31 PM   #12
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'85 Doc and '85 Marty are the only* time travelers.


'55 Doc never leaves.




*(not counting '85 Einstein, '85 Jennifer and 2015 Biff)
And don't forget Cole:

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Old 01-09-03, 03:35 PM   #13
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My main complaint about the series is that they should have ended Part 2 with Marty stranded in 1955, before he gets the telegram. That would have been one hell of a cliffhanger.
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Old 01-09-03, 03:50 PM   #14
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My main complaint about the series is that they should have ended Part 2 with Marty stranded in 1955, before he gets the telegram. That would have been one hell of a cliffhanger.
I was just thinking that
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Glad you liked the movie. Ive held off on getting the DVDs even though I really really want them due to the framing problem.
I hear in the Special features they finally tell why they replaced the first girl with Elizabeth Shu. Can anyone tell me why?
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Old 01-10-03, 01:51 AM   #16
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Glad you liked the movie. Ive held off on getting the DVDs even though I really really want them due to the framing problem.
I hear in the Special features they finally tell why they replaced the first girl with Elizabeth Shu. Can anyone tell me why?
I believe a member of her family died and she decided to quit acting for a while as she was in no mental shape to do so.
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Old 01-10-03, 03:02 AM   #17
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One more thing, anyone know when they plan to fix the framing problem and ship out new batches of DVD's?
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Old 01-10-03, 04:04 AM   #18
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And I think it's more like there's BTTF 1, BTTF 2, and BTTF 2 Crapified.
I always found Part 3 to be interesting because the time period they ended up in was one where if the time machine breaks down (or as in the movie, loses its gas) you're pretty much screwed.

Going back 30 years, you still have gasoline, cruder electronics or other cars to canibalize parts from. The only thing that was not avaible in Part 1 for the car was the 1.21 jigowatts.

Part 2 took care of the fission reactor with the Mr. Fusion...so powering the time circuits wasnt a problem....Part three addressed the issue of what happens when the car itself cannot perform its functions.

Its an issue i am glad was brought up in the 3rd movie. What happens when you time travel to a time where you cannot fix your broken machine? It also addressed the fatal flaw of the Delorean...that it was dependent on gasoline to run.

I like Part 3 because Marty trying to get home is a more difficult task to accomplish in the 3rd movie than it is in the 1st.
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Old 01-10-03, 10:17 AM   #19
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One more thing, anyone know when they plan to fix the framing problem and ship out new batches of DVD's?
Hotline says late-Feb is the expected replacement disc shipping time. No idea when new box sets will be in stores.
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Old 01-10-03, 05:50 PM   #20
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Catch phrases & concepts introduced into pop culture in 1985,
as a result of BTTF's popularity at the time:

"Hello.... Anybody home?? Think, McFly!!"

"Butt-head"

"Heavy...!"

Calvin Klein underwear

and of course,

Huey Lewis and The News.

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Old 01-11-03, 12:06 PM   #21
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Now at the end of Part 3, where did the Doc get the parts from to build his time travel train? He was stuck in 1885 after Marty left.
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Old 01-11-03, 12:14 PM   #22
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I know allot of people were disappointed with 3. It wasn't as good as the first two but definately brought some more humor back into the mix.
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Old 01-12-03, 12:15 AM   #23
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Now at the end of Part 3, where did the Doc get the parts from to build his time travel train? He was stuck in 1885 after Marty left.
My question is why did Doc build the new time machine after he spent the last two movies bitching and moaning about how dangerous time travel was and how he wanted the delorean destroyed.
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I always questioned the title of the first..

Back to the future?

Huh? I must have missed something cause Marty didn't go to the future, he went to the past, and then when they sent him back to his time it was his "PRESENT" so I never saw how "Back to the future" could be the correct phrase.



Then the second, they never went to the future to begin with, so how could they go BACK to it? The third just justifies the theory some more. they went Back to the past.

Most misleading title EVER! i canceled my pre-order...
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Now at the end of Part 3, where did the Doc get the parts from to build his time travel train? He was stuck in 1885 after Marty left.

I guess he built some crude time travel circuits with 1890's technology. Maybe he built the time traveling to be pure mechanical?

Yeah i said 1890's technology. Because it would have taken him that long to figure out how to make the damn thing and it also takes into consideration Jules & Verne.
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