movies that require multiple viewings to either understand or good thinking movies

Rypro 525 · 12-31-02, 08:20 PM

memento by far

RobCA · 12-31-02, 08:29 PM

Donnie Darko
Mulholland Drive
12 Monkeys

gutwrencher · 12-31-02, 08:34 PM

Personally, I think some good "thinking mans" films would include Lynch movies of course, like Mulholland Drive. also films/dvds like Jacobs Ladder, Dont Look Now, Deep Red and yes, Momento for sure. just off the top of my head. maybe Dune the movie would qualify.

das Monkey · 12-31-02, 08:47 PM

I don't think there's a better "repeat viewing" film than 2001. While it doesn't require multiple viewings to understand, there is so much detail and so many nuances wrapped into the whole thing that after 100+ viewings, I still am able to find new and wonderful aspects to it.

das

darkside · 12-31-02, 08:56 PM

I watched Frailty, Momento, and 12 Monkeys more than once.

Of course Six Sense and Unbreakable had to be watched at least twice when you figured out what you had missed the whole movie.

The movie I watched a record 10 times was Brazil. I still don't think I fully understand that film.

DVDHO · 12-31-02, 09:00 PM

A Clockwork Orange
Donny Darko
12 Monkeys
Jacobs Ladder
Fight Club(better the second time)
The Shining

dglaser6 · 12-31-02, 09:17 PM

Miller's Crossing

Mutley Hyde · 12-31-02, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by das Monkey
I don't think there's a better "repeat viewing" film than 2001.

I would throw in 8 1/2, RAN, Throne of Blood, Polanski's Macbeth, Blade Runner, Brazil, Clockwork Orange, Gataca, Farenheit 451, Rollerball (original, duh), Logan's Run, Planet of the Apes (yep, the original again)....

Uh, that's all I got right now.

Some may scoff at the last several sci-fi ones, which on the surface can seem cheesy to some, but they all deal with sociological morality issues, and they all just click with me real well. Good stuff if you don't get hung up on them being "dated".

cultshock · 12-31-02, 09:37 PM

Wong Kar-Wai's Ashes of Time

I've seen it several times, still don't have a complete handle on it, but still love it. Just waiting for a decent DVD of it!

darkflounder · 12-31-02, 09:40 PM

Memento
Fight Club (seen it many times, still seeing new things)
Donnie Darko (took at least three times till I finally got my brain around it)
Pulp Fiction
Reservoir Dogs
Brazil (I betcha even Terry Gilliam scratches his head in a few parts)
Seven Samurai
Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon

calhoun07 · 12-31-02, 09:50 PM

Code Unkown

Furio · 12-31-02, 10:20 PM

Mulholland Drive for sure. And even after you watch it numerous times you still don't have it figured out.

Teknomaagi · 01-01-03, 01:33 AM

Lost Highway
Mullholland Dr.

The 'problem' with David Lynch movies is that one can not be sure what he ment with everything, so you must make an explanation that suits for you.

David Lynch is Genious!

movielib · 01-01-03, 01:35 AM

Nashville
Miller's Crossing
Magnolia
Once Upon a Time in America
The Rapture

DavidH · 01-01-03, 01:42 AM

Having never read or knowing a thing about the story or characters before seeing it, I have found Fellowship of the Ring took a few viewings for me to get to know the characters and everything to sink in...extended version really helped. However, I would certainly not call this a complex movie by any means.

2001 is definitely the movie that comes to mind where more is always picked up with each viewing. I never watched a movie like this in that regard.

lordzeppelin · 01-01-03, 02:30 AM

Eyes Wide Shut. Bring on the flames!

Moppy007 · 01-01-03, 03:02 AM

Vanilla Sky
Being John Malkovic
Adaptation
Se7en

and Go is quite fun to piece together...

Static Cling · 01-01-03, 03:41 AM

Moving to Movie Talk.

mcarver · 01-01-03, 08:55 AM

Quite agree all both accounts (though the Hong Kong import of the DVD is far better than the butchere American release).

Quote:

Originally posted by cultshock
Wong Kar-Wai's Ashes of Time

I've seen it several times, still don't have a complete handle on it, but still love it. Just waiting for a decent DVD of it!

mcarver · 01-01-03, 09:10 AM

I think some films are just great because one can't wrap one's mind around them . That's why they are so re-watchable. David Lynch, Peter Greenaway, and Terry Gilliam seem to be directors that have a talent for creating such films.

And not to forget one of the masters, Andrei Tarkovsky.

Titles:
Saragossa Manuscript, The (1965)
Element of Crime (1984)
Institute Benjamenta, or This Dream People Call Human Life (1995)

Simpson Purist · 01-01-03, 09:20 AM

Memento
Reservoir Dogs
A.I.
Minority Report
Rashomon
Back to the Future Part II

wendersfan · 01-01-03, 10:05 AM

Andrei Rublev
Nostalghia
Stalker
Solaris
The Sacrifice
L'Avventura
La Notte
Deserto Rosso
The Blow-Up
The Passenger
Good Men, Good Women
Goodbye, South, Goodbye
Flowers of Shanghai
Close-Up
Taste Of Cherry
The Wind Will Carry Us
10

and so forth...

Oh, a couple of asides - 12 Monkeys was on USA this morning when I got up. I could watch it over and over... Also, I have to disagree vehemently about Memento. Having seen it once, I have found it to be completely unwatchable a second time. I would have to say it's the epitome of a film that reveals all on the first viewing. Of course, that's just my opinion; I could be wrong.

Deckard-10 · 01-01-03, 11:04 AM

Brazil - Criterion Edtion
2001: A Space Odyssey

Calistoga · 01-01-03, 11:18 AM

wordtoyamotha · 01-01-03, 11:36 AM

Yellow Submarine - Everyt time I see it I pick up new subtle jokes, references, etc.

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DavidH DVD Talk Gold Edition Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,463	Having never read or knowing a thing about the story or characters before seeing it, I have found Fellowship of the Ring took a few viewings for me to get to know the characters and everything to sink in...extended version really helped. However, I would certainly not call this a complex movie by any means. 2001 is definitely the movie that comes to mind where more is always picked up with each viewing. I never watched a movie like this in that regard. Last edited by DavidH; 01-01-03 at 01:45 AM.

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mcarver DVD Talk Special Edition Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: PDX Posts: 1,985	I think some films are just great *because* one can't wrap one's mind around them . That's why they are so re-watchable. David Lynch, Peter Greenaway, and Terry Gilliam seem to be directors that have a talent for creating such films. And not to forget one of the masters, Andrei Tarkovsky. Titles: Saragossa Manuscript, The (1965) Element of Crime (1984) Institute Benjamenta, or This Dream People Call Human Life (1995) __________________ Michael's Movie Mayhem -- Region 1 DVD Database

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