Release List Reviews Shop Join News DVD Giveaways Video Games Advertise
DVD Reviews | Theatrical Reviews | Adult DVD Reviews | Video Game Reviews | Price Search Buy Stuff Here
DVD Talk
DVD Reviews DVD Talk Headlines HD Reviews


Add to My Yahoo! - RSS 2.0 - RSS 2.0 - DVD Talk Podcast RSS -


Go Back   DVD Talk Forum > Entertainment Discussions > Movie Talk

Movie Talk A Discussion area for everything movie related including films In The Theaters

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 12-11-02, 12:14 PM   #1
Buttmunker
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: New York
Posts: 5,580
Christopher Walken

When it comes to acting, Christopher Walken can rise to the occasion with ease. The man is a natural - his facial expressions, his tone (he's very distinctive in his tone), his range. He can even be humorous (see the music video for Fatboy Slim).

One thing I will never understand is his choice of film roles. He could have starred in some very huge motion pictures - and, in the very beginning of his career, he did. His biggest film was "The Deer Hunter" in 1978 - both a commercially and critically praised film. He did, in fact, win an Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor for his role as the doomed "Nick." (In this film, he had natural blonde hair, but in later years he sports jet-black hair. Why?)

I think his very next film was "Dogs of War," and while it was not a wholly bad picture, it wasn't a huge box office draw either. But after that, he went left field (imho). The only other films I can remember seeing him in was "The Dead Zone" (since I'm a Stephen King fan), "The King of New York," that one with Dennis Hopper where he plays a mob guy, and his small but meaty role in 1994's "Pulp Fiction." Not to mention the "Prophecy" films, which are really bad but he's still very good in them, despite the screenplay.

Lastly, is Walken the one who says "I got a fever, and the only prescription is more cow-bell!" I've heard this sound byte on the Ron & Fez radio show, and it really sounds like him. If it is him, what film was that line from??
__________________
I'm-a one, I'm-a one, the one they call Buttmunker.
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-11-02, 12:18 PM   #2
Groucho
DVD Talk Godfather
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Salt Lake City, Utah
Posts: 57,806
The cow-bell line is from a SLC sketch.

http://snl-ibc.jt.org/Cowbell.gif
__________________
Xbox Live: Runner Groucho
PSN: RunnerGroucho

"Who gives a shit what I think?" -- CRM114
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-11-02, 12:24 PM   #3
greatjedi
DVD Talk Special Edition
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Posts: 1,851
Quote:
Originally posted by Groucho
The cow-bell line is from a SLC sketch.

http://snl-ibc.jt.org/Cowbell.gif
Uh-oh - Groucho's lived in Salt Lake City (SLC) too long. Saturday Night Live is SNL. Don't worry man, I know how it is.
__________________
Time. Time. What is time? Swiss manufacture it. French hoard it. Italians squander it. Americans say it is money. Hindus say it does not exist. Do you know what I say? I say time is a crook.

I love that new DVD smell!

Last edited by greatjedi; 12-11-02 at 12:32 PM.
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-11-02, 12:26 PM   #4
Buttmunker
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: New York
Posts: 5,580
So its Will Ferrell's voice (I've seen the sketch, but didn't associate the two) and not Walkens. Okay, then.
__________________
I'm-a one, I'm-a one, the one they call Buttmunker.
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-11-02, 12:28 PM   #5
Groucho
DVD Talk Godfather
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Salt Lake City, Utah
Posts: 57,806
No, it is Walken's voice. He's just not in that picture I posted, but he's in the sketch.

Yes, it's SNL, not SLC.
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-11-02, 12:32 PM   #6
Buttmunker
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: New York
Posts: 5,580
Man, that sketch was so totally original and funny! Walken was the producer, I remember now. Everytime I hear "(Don't Fear) The Reaper" by Blue Oyster Cult, I think of this. I would love to have this on DVD - anyone know if it currently available on one of the released sets?
__________________
I'm-a one, I'm-a one, the one they call Buttmunker.
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-11-02, 12:39 PM   #7
Rypro 525
DVD Talk Hero
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: a frikin hellhole
Posts: 25,768
when i bought a boc cd, i was angry that there wasnt enough cow bell
but on topic, did anyone else like him in batman returns with grey hair. and of course true romance is his best performance imo (i have not seen the deer hunter yet)
__________________
Follow me: http://twitter.com/TheChewDefense
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-11-02, 12:41 PM   #8
greatjedi
DVD Talk Special Edition
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Posts: 1,851
I have to say that the Fatboy Slim video is one of my all time favorites. Spike Jonze + Christopher Walken =
__________________
Time. Time. What is time? Swiss manufacture it. French hoard it. Italians squander it. Americans say it is money. Hindus say it does not exist. Do you know what I say? I say time is a crook.

I love that new DVD smell!
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-11-02, 12:52 PM   #9
JoeyOhhhh
DVD Talk Platinum Edition
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Unique New York
Posts: 3,830
Re: Christopher Walken

Quote:
Originally posted by Buttmunker
Lastly, is Walken the one who says "I got a fever, and the only prescription is more cow-bell!" I've heard this sound byte on the Ron & Fez radio show, and it really sounds like him. If it is him, what film was that line from??
If you search on kazaa for cowbell you'll find the video.

No matter what part Walken is in, I crack up laughing.
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-11-02, 01:53 PM   #10
rkndkn
DVD Talk Platinum Edition
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Hawaii, USA
Posts: 3,377
I've followed Walken's career since my beloved "The Deer Hunter", and I think he has a lot of little gems with always interesting performances. I know what you mean that he didn't go the "high-profile" route after his Oscar win, though. But I LOVE the quirky roles he does so well, from "Suicide Kings" to "The Comfort of Strangers" to "Things to Do in Denver When You're Dead". He's also hilarious in the recent "Scotland PA", which I heartily recommend.

Christopher has always said he fears never working again. That's why he pretty much takes the best of what is offered at any given moment. They did a piece on him on "60 Minutes II" a couple of weeks ago -- he's such an interesting man.
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-11-02, 02:18 PM   #11
BadlyDrawnBoy
DVD Talk Legend
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Egoiste
Posts: 16,848
This thread deals with the need for more cowbell

http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthr...hlight=cowbell
__________________
She likes the black one
He likes the the posh one
Cute ones are usually gay
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-11-02, 02:21 PM   #12
elektra
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
 
Join Date: May 1999
Location: new england
Posts: 8,173
A brilliant talent with a lot of Charisma. I like his work.
__________________
I have multiple personalities and none of them like you.
GODDESS OF THE OTHER FORUM
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-11-02, 02:26 PM   #13
Buttmunker
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: New York
Posts: 5,580
Quote:
Originally posted by rkndkn
Christopher has always said he fears never working again. That's why he pretty much takes the best of what is offered at any given moment. They did a piece on him on "60 Minutes II" a couple of weeks ago -- he's such an interesting man.
If he wasn't such a great actor, his career could have paralleled the likes of Jan Michael-Vincent. If Walken was so concerned about never working again, why has he worked on less-than-ambitious projects? "Suicide Kings?" Blah!
__________________
I'm-a one, I'm-a one, the one they call Buttmunker.
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-11-02, 11:12 PM   #14
videodrome
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Posts: 846
A penny for Walken

His few minutes in "Pennies From Heaven" are honestly a sheer
joy to watch.

I'm debating to post my look at Catch Me If You Can but i can
tell you it's Walken at his most subtle and one of his best
performances.
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-02, 08:09 AM   #15
Buttmunker
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: New York
Posts: 5,580
Walken is in "Catch Me If You Can?" A big studio project?? Speilberg?! Well, slap my mouth! The tide may change just yet. If "Catch Me If You Can" is a huge hit, and if it turns into a classic, it will mark two whole films for Walken - including '78's "The Deer Hunter."

In 200 years, will anyone remember seeing "Suicide Kings?" And its a real shame because Walken is so terrific :*(
__________________
I'm-a one, I'm-a one, the one they call Buttmunker.
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-02, 08:13 AM   #16
kneijst1
DVD Talk Special Edition
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Arlington, VA
Posts: 1,806
don't forget his short but memorable performance in the great flick True Romance.
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-02, 09:00 AM   #17
BadlyDrawnBoy
DVD Talk Legend
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Egoiste
Posts: 16,848
I think he is correct, and if I were him I would work in whatever movie someone offered me.

All you need do is see Jlo and Baffleck getting 10-15 mil per movie to see that something is not right in hollywood, its the same reason that de niro is doing comedy now. Money. At the end of the day it's all about the money.

As an actor you get paid for working, so Chris appears to be a workaholic, and why not.

He brings something to every role, whether it's mousehunt or blast from the past, he is outstanding and adds a dimension that no-one else has.

He has 93 listings on IMDB, some are tv and such not, but this is a man who is not afraid to work.

6 movies released in 01
5 in 02
4 listed so far for 03. The man is brilliant and can do no wrong.

http://us.imdb.com/Name?Walken,+Christopher
__________________
She likes the black one
He likes the the posh one
Cute ones are usually gay
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-02, 09:17 AM   #18
Buttmunker
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: New York
Posts: 5,580
At the end of the day, you're right: its all about the benjamins. However, film is art. Your work is your canvass, and you get paid for doing bad art as well as good art - so with that in mind, why not hold out for great projects?
__________________
I'm-a one, I'm-a one, the one they call Buttmunker.
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-02, 09:19 AM   #19
Buttmunker
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: New York
Posts: 5,580
One more thing: no matter how much you enjoy a performer's work in a film - if you can't stand the film, what's the point?
__________________
I'm-a one, I'm-a one, the one they call Buttmunker.
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-02, 09:34 AM   #20
Dr. DVD
DVD Talk Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Daytona Beach, FL
Posts: 16,796
Walken was the last decent Bond villain that actually had some complexity and depth to him IMO.

Plus his role in True Romance was just damn cool! Hell, he is the definition of Damn Cool!

Also, it is about money, and Walken has chosen the route of job security over prestigous big time roles. Nothing wrong with that, glad he is still working and will always be doing so.
__________________
“The time will come, the election will come, when your work and your ballots will change the world, and it’s worth fighting for,” -John Kerry's concession speech

Last edited by Dr. DVD; 12-12-02 at 09:52 AM.
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-02, 09:38 AM   #21
Groucho
DVD Talk Godfather
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Salt Lake City, Utah
Posts: 57,806
Quote:
Originally posted by Dr. DVD
Walken was the last decent Bond villain that actually had some complexity and depth to him IMO.
I hope you're kidding.

Grace Jones: What a great view.
Walken: To a kill!

  Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-02, 10:13 AM   #22
Big Quasimodo
DVD Talk Ultimate Edition
 
Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: Cary, NC
Posts: 4,182
I think, because he is so unconventional onscreen, that he may be better suited for cameo/supporting/character roles than the traditional "leading man" vehicles. I am a big fan, but a little Chris Walken goes a long way! Other current actors that have this impression on me are Dennis Hopper, Benecio Del Toro, and Willem Dafoe. Personally, they are a little too "quirky" to carry a film commercially. As co-stars in an ensemble cast, they each can do spectacular work.

Walken was originally trained as a song and dance man (like James Cagney). His Fatboy Slim work was a return to his roots.

One film that has not been mentioned, yet, where Walken gets great exposure is At Close Range. Playing opposite Sean Penn, it is a pairing of actors who excel at the craft.

He is also a hoot in Blast From the Past with the dreaded Brendan Frasier and Alicia Silverstone. Best part of the film.

I have to disagree that he really has range. Sure, he can play different characters, but the ones that he really excels at are seemingly smooth and likeable guys who can show an evil undertone at the drop of a hat. In his best roles, he consistently plays a slightly (or more) unstable and dangerous character.

Just one fan's opinions...
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-02, 10:49 AM   #23
Buttmunker
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: New York
Posts: 5,580
Quote:
Originally posted by Dr. DVD
Also, it is about money, and Walken has chosen the route of job security over prestigous big time roles. Nothing wrong with that, glad he is still working and will always be doing so.
I don't really think that, after your first 20 million dollars, you have to worry about job security. How much is enough? He doesn't have to work anymore for the money - it isn't that. He could be choosy if he wanted to be, and still know that he has a mansion to go home to and food on the table, etc.

I'm glad to see him still working, too, but I'd like to see him in more films that I'd normally give repeat viewings of. If he wants to stick with independent films, fine. I love independent films sometimes more than big studio films (Fargo comes to mind), but there aren't many Walken films I'd buy just because he was in it.
__________________
I'm-a one, I'm-a one, the one they call Buttmunker.
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-02, 12:42 PM   #24
rkndkn
DVD Talk Platinum Edition
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Hawaii, USA
Posts: 3,377
Quote:
Originally posted by Buttmunker
If he wasn't such a great actor, his career could have paralleled the likes of Jan Michael-Vincent. If Walken was so concerned about never working again, why has he worked on less-than-ambitious projects? "Suicide Kings?" Blah!
I think it's the mentality of what if he passes over a role and nobody else offers him anything? Of course, we know how in demand he is, but he seems to be so humble that way.

As for "Suicide Kings", I saw it theatrically and several times on DVD. I love it!
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-02, 12:53 PM   #25
Buttmunker
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: New York
Posts: 5,580
I'll be honest - I'm disappointed in Christopher Walken. I feel he has not lived up to his potential (yes, this is his mother). You wouldn't have seen Jack Nicholson in "Suicide Kings." You wouldn't have seen Tom Cruise in "Blast From The Past." Walken deserves to stand shoulder to shoulder with Nicholson, DeNiro, Hoffman, et al, yet he is not in the same caliber because Walken's films do not guarantee box office success. Why? Because Walken chooses to play in these low-budgeted, poorly written films that aren't worthy of his person.

The bottom line is this (and this is all my opinion, and doesn't really amount to much): Christopher Walken could have had a stellar career, multiple Oscars, a 20-million-plus paycheck, etc. Instead, he chose a modest career and starred in films that are B-list at best.

He's a beautiful bird with bright, technicolor feathers, but instead of displaying himself for all to see, he hides behind mediocrity. He has stunted his potential as one of the 20th Century's Greatest Movie Stars, just to be known as a great actor.
__________________
I'm-a one, I'm-a one, the one they call Buttmunker.
  Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:12 AM.

Rules - DVD Talk - Archive - Privacy Statement - Top

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0
Copyright 2011 DVDTalk.com All Rights Reserved. Privacy Policy and Terms of Use.