AOTC clone identity question?

needamazing · 11-26-02, 12:18 PM

This is a spoiler. If it has been mentioned before in the many threads then I apologize but I didn't see anything at first glance

Spoiler:

McHawkson · 11-26-02, 12:24 PM

No, not him. AOTC is his first Star Wars film.

Kal-El · 11-26-02, 12:25 PM

Yeah I believe they used the same actor for those shots. Pretty stupid if you ask me. "Let's remove the eyepatch and maybe no one will notice"

Jay Laga'ia I think was his name. "Captain Typho"

greatjedi · 11-26-02, 01:54 PM

The clones in the cafeteria were played by Bodie Taylor and not Jay Laga'aia.

Bodie Taylor (young Jango Fett clone)

Jay Laga'aia (Captain Typho)

So what do I win?

Toad · 11-26-02, 02:23 PM

Your own clone! Make sure not to feed him after midnight!!

greatjedi · 11-26-02, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Toad
Your own clone! Make sure not to feed him after midnight!!

Now, do I get to choose who I want a clone of?

Josh-da-man · 11-26-02, 09:07 PM

Actually, on the Star Wars website, it says that Typho is the nephew of Panaka from TPM.

McHawkson · 11-26-02, 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Josh-da-man
Actually, on the Star Wars website, it says that Typho is the nephew of Panaka from TPM.

So does the novel mentioned.

Darren Garrison · 11-26-02, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by McHawkson
So does the novel mentioned.

Yoda?

Sierra Disc · 11-26-02, 10:46 PM

What, do all Maori folks look alike or something?

Both the actors who play Jango Fett and Capt. Typho are well known native New Zealand actors. They both have that "Maori" look to them which could make them appear similar at first glance. Bodie Taylor I'm not familiar with but he also looks very Maori as well.

rennervision · 11-27-02, 08:42 AM

This is an interesting question, and really got me thinking. I'm fairly certain that Jango Fett was, indeed, the source of all the clones. So I'm going to lean to the thought that the shot we saw of all the clones eating were supposed to be actors resembling a younger Jango Fett. After all, weren't the clones that were still young boys the spitting image of Boba?

loyalcitizen · 11-27-02, 04:45 PM

I could swear that I heard an interview with Lucas where he stated that the Young Clones were a CGI blend of Bodie Taylor and Temuera Morrison. He wanted them to look like a younger, bulkier Jango.

BizRodian · 11-27-02, 05:16 PM

I don't think CGI is THAT good yet.

I think by the time Episode 3 rolls around, there are many different clones from different hosts.

In the original AOTC screenplay, the Kaminoids explain that he reason Jango stays around with them is because they need to take new samples every so often, to stop degregation in the clones.

This makes sense, since the clones in the OT, while all similar, easily controled dumbasses, had different (yet similarly "dead") voices.

isamu · 11-27-02, 11:37 PM

They should've made a bunch of Yoda clones to help promote his new toy line.

McHawkson · 11-27-02, 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BizRodian
In the original AOTC screenplay, the Kaminoids explain that he reason Jango stays around with them is because they need to take new samples every so often, to stop degregation in the clones.

In novel they mentioned same thing. I was surprised it wasn't included in the movie.

BizRodian · 11-28-02, 12:13 AM

Time. Little things add up, and it's a long film. Non important stuff goes. It's a pitty.

On TPM there could have been a lot less bashing and some better flow if they explained a few things, and left a few scenes in.

Jason · 11-28-02, 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BizRodian
I don't think CGI is THAT good yet.

I think by the time Episode 3 rolls around, there are many different clones from different hosts.

In the original AOTC screenplay, the Kaminoids explain that he reason Jango stays around with them is because they need to take new samples every so often, to stop degregation in the clones.

This makes sense, since the clones in the OT, while all similar, easily controled dumbasses, had different (yet similarly "dead") voices.

These first-generation clone troopers seem pretty badass, which is a far cry from the bumblers that the empire uses. They either have different hosts, or use a clone as a host, and the quality declines like a recopied videotape.

Tesiae · 11-28-02, 09:18 AM

Jason: Maybe they're just cheaper to produce. The Empire HAS to be more cost effective, what with their defense budget being dumped in to the oh so secret planet killing project.

BizRodian · 11-29-02, 01:04 AM

Quote:

These first-generation clone troopers seem pretty badass, which is a far cry from the bumblers that the empire uses. They either have different hosts, or use a clone as a host, and the quality declines like a recopied videotape.

Badass against droids... not so hard.

Professor Frink · 12-02-02, 11:21 AM

The thing that always bugged me about this whole thing -- why would they use a bounty hunter as the source for their soldier clones? I'm sure Lucas did that for the fans (who all love Boba Fett), but it really doesn't make any sense if you're creating an army of soldiers.

Brewc · 12-02-02, 03:51 PM

I was waiting for someone to ask that question. What Lucas is doing is using the video games and books to fill in the info around the clone wars, IE why is is Jango Fett the guy cloned, that story is being told in the Bounty Hunter game out for the PS2 and Gamecube.
Pretty good story as well as I have it and playing at present, it has Count Dooku, Zam Wessel in it. The premise behind the story is it seems Darth Sidious and Dooku decide a bounty hunter would be perfect to clone the army for and they put out a reward for a bounty on a rouge Jedi an whoever brings him in gets a 3,000,000 reward.

joltaddict · 12-02-02, 06:56 PM

I think Mace is Landos father.

11-26-02, 12:18 PM	#1
needamazing Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Saint Louis, MO, USA Posts: 200	AOTC clone identity question? This is a spoiler. If it has been mentioned before in the many threads then I apologize but I didn't see anything at first glance Spoiler: In AOTC when Obiwan is getting the tour of the clone factory there is a shot of some of the clones eating. I swear this clone has the identity of the Naboo officer (forget the name) which is often with Senator Amidala. Now, I know that Jenga Fett was the original identity of the clone but I have watched the movie several times and I am positive that it is the Naboo officer. Does anyone have any thoughts? I think there will be an ambush of some kind in Episode III using this cloned Naboo officer because Senator Amidala trusts him completely. I think Lucas threw this shot in there thinking no one would notice. Jenga Fett and the Naboo officer do look quite a bit alike. Tell me what you think. If I am mistaken don't keep from flaming me. __________________ $114 Million the first weekend. Wow!!!!!!

11-26-02, 12:24 PM	#2
McHawkson DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: America Empire Posts: 13,902	No, not him. AOTC is his first Star Wars film. __________________ Is that the best you can do, you pansies? - Marv in Sin City Croc RULE!

11-26-02, 12:25 PM	#3
Kal-El DVD Talk Limited Edition Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Fortress of Solitude Posts: 6,647	Yeah I believe they used the same actor for those shots. Pretty stupid if you ask me. "Let's remove the eyepatch and maybe no one will notice" Jay Laga'ia I think was his name. "Captain Typho" __________________ Vader was framed.

11-26-02, 01:54 PM	#4
greatjedi DVD Talk Special Edition Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 1,851	The clones in the cafeteria were played by Bodie Taylor and not Jay Laga'aia. Bodie Taylor (young Jango Fett clone) Jay Laga'aia (Captain Typho) So what do I win? __________________ Time. Time. What is time? Swiss manufacture it. French hoard it. Italians squander it. Americans say it is money. Hindus say it does not exist. Do you know what I say? I say time is a crook. I love that new DVD smell! Last edited by greatjedi; 11-26-02 at 02:08 PM.

11-26-02, 09:07 PM	#7
Josh-da-man DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: The Bible Belt Posts: 16,753	Actually, on the Star Wars website, it says that Typho is the nephew of Panaka from TPM. __________________ "Here's to Boston cops, they did what so many men never have been able to do: they found the little man in the boat." -- Bill Maher

11-26-02, 02:23 PM	#5
Toad DVD Talk Limited Edition Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Surrounded by idiots... Posts: 6,991	Your own clone! Make sure not to feed him after midnight!!

11-26-02, 10:46 PM	#10
Sierra Disc DVD Talk Limited Edition Join Date: May 2000 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 5,562	What, do all Maori folks look alike or something? Both the actors who play Jango Fett and Capt. Typho are well known native New Zealand actors. They both have that "Maori" look to them which could make them appear similar at first glance. Bodie Taylor I'm not familiar with but he also looks very Maori as well.

11-27-02, 08:42 AM	#11
rennervision DVD Talk Special Edition Join Date: May 2000 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 1,924	This is an interesting question, and really got me thinking. I'm fairly certain that Jango Fett was, indeed, the source of all the clones. So I'm going to lean to the thought that the shot we saw of all the clones eating were supposed to be actors resembling a younger Jango Fett. After all, weren't the clones that were still young boys the spitting image of Boba? __________________ “It will soon be possible to create a new ‘original’ negative with whatever changes or alterations the copyright holder of the moment desires…. In the future it will become even easier for old negatives to become lost and be ‘replaced’ by new altered negatives. This would be a great loss to our society. Our cultural history must not be allowed to be rewritten." - George Lucas, 1988

11-27-02, 04:45 PM	#12
loyalcitizen Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: San Marcos, CA Posts: 64	I could swear that I heard an interview with Lucas where he stated that the Young Clones were a CGI blend of Bodie Taylor and Temuera Morrison. He wanted them to look like a younger, bulkier Jango.

11-27-02, 05:16 PM	#13
BizRodian DVD Talk Hall of Fame Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Ottawa Posts: 9,975	I don't think CGI is THAT good yet. I think by the time Episode 3 rolls around, there are many different clones from different hosts. In the original AOTC screenplay, the Kaminoids explain that he reason Jango stays around with them is because they need to take new samples every so often, to stop degregation in the clones. This makes sense, since the clones in the OT, while all similar, easily controled dumbasses, had different (yet similarly "dead") voices.

11-27-02, 11:37 PM	#14
isamu Banned Join Date: Apr 2000 Posts: 2,013	They should've made a bunch of Yoda clones to help promote his new toy line.

11-28-02, 12:13 AM	#16
BizRodian DVD Talk Hall of Fame Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Ottawa Posts: 9,975	Time. Little things add up, and it's a long film. Non important stuff goes. It's a pitty. On TPM there could have been a lot less bashing and some better flow if they explained a few things, and left a few scenes in.

11-28-02, 09:18 AM	#18
Tesiae DVD Talk Gold Edition Join Date: Nov 1999 Posts: 2,022	Jason: Maybe they're just cheaper to produce. The Empire HAS to be more cost effective, what with their defense budget being dumped in to the oh so secret planet killing project. __________________ "I don't mind tyranny... as long as I'm the tyrant." - I said this

12-02-02, 11:21 AM	#20
Professor Frink DVD Talk Special Edition Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Harrisburg, PA Posts: 1,100	The thing that always bugged me about this whole thing -- why would they use a bounty hunter as the source for their soldier clones? I'm sure Lucas did that for the fans (who all love Boba Fett), but it really doesn't make any sense if you're creating an army of soldiers. __________________ Professor Frink, Professor Frink, he'll make you laugh and make you think. He likes to run and then the thing with the ... person. Oh boy, that monkey is going to pay.

12-02-02, 03:51 PM	#21
Brewc Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Norton,Va. Posts: 969	I was waiting for someone to ask that question. What Lucas is doing is using the video games and books to fill in the info around the clone wars, IE why is is Jango Fett the guy cloned, that story is being told in the Bounty Hunter game out for the PS2 and Gamecube. Pretty good story as well as I have it and playing at present, it has Count Dooku, Zam Wessel in it. The premise behind the story is it seems Darth Sidious and Dooku decide a bounty hunter would be perfect to clone the army for and they put out a reward for a bounty on a rouge Jedi an whoever brings him in gets a 3,000,000 reward. Last edited by Brewc; 12-02-02 at 10:09 PM.

12-02-02, 06:56 PM	#22
joltaddict DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Banging your mother Posts: 18,386	I think Mace is Landos father. __________________ Don't beat this guy up over a non-PC (though common) expression. He obviously meant no harm to the gay and lesbian community when expressing his views about Vader. - Ketamine