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08-16-05, 11:28 AM
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recommend some french films like...
Hello all, i'm interested in what is called "cinema de banlieue". I'm trying to see if anyone could recommend some films such as:
La Haine Petits frères Ma 6-T va crack-er Comme Un Aimant etc. If anyone could point me to any resources, or links (including literature) english or spanish friendly please. thanks. Last edited by BuddhaWake; 08-16-05 at 12:25 PM. |
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08-16-05, 11:43 AM
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 Right off the bat...the only one I could think of right now is La Squale which is also English friendly. I will have to check my DVDs tonight when I get home for more suggestions. A modern take on the drug/porn culture and I think as vile as La Haine is Deja Mort. Though I certainly won't place in the same group as Ma-6T.  Ciao, Pro-B Last edited by pro-bassoonist; 08-16-05 at 11:48 AM. |
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08-17-05, 02:33 AM
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There's Banlieue 13 (or B13) also...
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08-17-05, 09:44 AM
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Much better than the stylish but imho overrated La Haine is Jean-Claude Brisseau's De Bruit et de Fureur. Saddly, still not available on DVD...
http://www.us.imdb.com/title/tt0094959/ There's also Jacques Doillon's Le Petit Criminel, available individually or as part of the MK2 Doillon boxset.  These films (from the 80's and 90's) offered a much more realistic depiction of "la banlieue" than contemporary films like Banlieue 13 or Nid de Guêpes, which merely use it as a setting for spectacular action scenes, or films like La Haine which are more concerned with style than substance. Last edited by eXcentris; 08-17-05 at 09:54 AM. |
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08-17-05, 09:55 AM
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Everything Goddard is fantastic!
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08-17-05, 12:19 PM
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Pro-b: I remember you mentioning Le Squale before. Where is the best place to pick this up? Is the one available at dvdzone2.com it? it doesn't mention subs but everywhere else it does.
eXcentris:are any of those Doillon available with enlgish subs? |
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08-17-05, 02:08 PM
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Buddha Wake:
I looked at DVDZONE2 and I think that both of those are the Dutch discs (the fist one certainly is-Boomerang Pictures). To be sure you get the French disc with the English subs I would go through Amazon.fr. Pro-B |
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08-18-05, 02:17 AM
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Virgil will soon be released on theaters here in Paris (it's for September)
Those are not my kind of movies so sorry, i can't help more here  |
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10-26-05, 06:56 AM
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This one from the 80's, "Le thé au harem d'Archimède" by Mehdi Charef based on his book (english subs):
http://www.dvdfr.com/dvd/dvd.php?id=2432 And "Raï" by Thomas Gilou with Samy Naceri (Taxi) and Tabatha Cash (french porn star): http://www.dvdfr.com/dvd/dvd.php?id=1609
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some info. here: http://www.film-philosophy.com/vol6-2002/n28hainge The second section of the book, 'Inscribing Differences', concentrates on films which give voice to minoritarian voices or concerns: _Les Nuits fauves_ (Collard, 1992), _Gazon maudit_ (Balasko, 1995), _J'ai pas sommeil_ (Denis, 1993), _Romauld et Juliette_ (Serreau, 1987), _Metisse_ and _La Haine_ (Kassovitz, 1993 and 1995) and, more generally, the notion of *cinema de banlieue* -- which is to say films shot in housing projects at the periphery of major French towns, and which give voice to the sentiments created by the socio-economic conditions of these suburbs. For Carrie Tarr _Les Nuits fauves_ is a film which repositions male sexuality in France during the AIDS-era, whilst Brigitte Rollet reads _Gazon maudit_ as an example of humour being used by women as a transgressive force, a move that Rollet traces back in French cultural history to the 1860s with the nineteenth-century cabaret artist Theresa. Cynthia Marker, for her part, carries out a complex analysis of _J'ai pas sommeil_ which finds the thematic quest for in-between culturally negotiated spaces echoed in the very stylistic elements of the film, whereas Dina Sherzer finds the attempt to portray a similar kind of space through the portrayal of interracial relationships in _Romauld et Juliette_ and _Metisse_ somewhat flawed since, ultimately, the slave-owner dichotomy is retained. The two essays dealing with *cinema de banlieue*, although dealing with roughly the same films, approach this corpus in very different ways. Myrto Konstantarakos comments on the use of the *banlieue* as a peripheral space apart from the centre, drawing conclusions as to the political ramifications of this, conclusions which distinguish these films from the American 'hood' movies to which the *cinema de banlieue* is so often compared and sometimes references -- never more so that in Kassovitz's _La Haine_. Carrie Tarr, meanwhile, in her second essay in the volume, notes how white-authored *cinema de banlieue* focuses on the anger, alienation, and violence of the *banlieue*, whilst films by Maghrebi directors are more concerned with avoiding potential conflict, instead exploring individual crises of identity and integration from within their very traditional culture. |
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Thank you.
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The best option though will be for you to see it.... http://www.nicheflix.com/movie_detai...x?movieID=6649 Ciao, Pro-B |
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10-27-05, 05:18 AM
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I believe you meant to say 'freedom films'.
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This is the kind of word that can't be translated. "Suburb" in the US or UK has a middle-class meaning while it refers to poor districts in France (ie huge ugly blocks of state owned flats, mainly located North of every French town). They can also be called "cités" Today French politicians will prefer to call them "quartiers" which is more PC. The good news is that a French MP announced that they are going to increase state owned flats by 20%. Sounds like France is the last Communist country in Europe. Last edited by Butch Coolidge; 10-27-05 at 06:15 AM. |
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