Lars Von Trier "The Idiots" DVD

jhriley42 · 03-12-02, 03:25 PM

I recently bought a region 0 dvd of "The Idiots" from HK with English and Chinese subtitles. To my surprise, it had been edited heavily. The original film runs 117 minutes, and this one is only 110.

When I looked up the UK version of the DVD, it was 110 too. Is there not an unedited version of this movie without black bars or totally deleted segments?

Any help is appreciated.

JHriley

ScreachingWeasel · 03-12-02, 06:10 PM

I have the Uk disc and I'm 99.9 % sure it is uncut. The time being 110 minutes is probably from the pal speed up which is 4% faster than NTSC. The only bad thing about the UK Idiots dvd is that it is supposedly very slightly cropped from 1:33 to 1:66.

axolotls return · 03-12-02, 06:41 PM

It comes out to 114 about with the speed-up. The board did not touch this movie: So the UK version is uncut!!

jhriley42 · 03-12-02, 06:41 PM

If you can see penises, then it's uncut.

In the US VHS version, you see moving black bars. It really draws away from the film and draws your attention to the nudity even more.

ScreachingWeasel · 03-12-02, 06:55 PM

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Originally posted by jhriley42
If you can see penises, then it's uncut.

In the US VHS version, you see moving black bars. It really draws away from the film and draws your attention to the nudity even more.

It's uncut then since there are crotch cobras galore.

jhriley42 · 03-12-02, 07:14 PM

Cool.

Now I can satisfy my porn obsession under the guise of watching "art"...ur, I mean, uh....nevermind.

Thanks, everyone, for the info

Giles · 03-12-02, 10:33 PM

Someone correct if I am wrong, but was this film ever released on US Region 1 DVD? Even the VHS version, which I thought might have been restored to it's full unrated glory, is still the abbreviated censored R-rated version.

Penises....uncut.....heehee

ScreachingWeasel · 03-12-02, 10:45 PM

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Originally posted by Giles
Someone correct if I am wrong, but was this film ever released on US Region 1 DVD? Even the VHS version, which I thought might have been restored to it's full unrated glory, is still the abbreviated censored R-rated version.

Penises....uncut.....heehee

There was news that there was going to be a region 1 release of this from USA along with The Celebration, but for some reason they were canceled. I'm wondering if Criterion might release these eventually because of their releases of Traffic and In The Mood For Love indicate they have some sort of relationship with USA. As of now there still is no uncircumcised US release on DVD.

boc4ever · 03-13-02, 11:07 AM

Thanks for the info on the UK version of this! I saw HKFLIX offering the Japanese version a few months back, and avoided that version because of the black bars. I just placed an order with Bensons, and I can't wait to see it!

garmonbozia · 04-11-02, 10:38 PM

There is an unedited version available on vcd that I got cheaply from some guy on ebay.....in case someone doesn't mind vcds.

Richard Malloy · 04-15-02, 11:38 AM

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Thanks for the info on the UK version of this! I saw HKFLIX offering the Japanese version a few months back, and avoided that version because of the black bars. I just placed an order with Bensons, and I can't wait to see it!

I can't quite tell from your post, but if that's the FEJUI version you've ordered, cancel it immediately!

If you see the Fejui DVD, then you're bound to gain an all-new appreciation of the black-box censorship of the U.S. theatrical release (which is identical to the version shown occasionally on Cinemax). The FEJUI DVD version doesn't simply cover up the naughty bits via black boxes - it removes those scenes altogether! If you've seen the film, then you know this means some very extensive scenes were removed. In other words, DON'T BUY THE FEJUI DISC!!!!

(And, yes, the UK version is in the wrong aspect ratio - which is especially galling since the aspect ratio is one of those "rules" of dogme-95! - but I don't know whether anything else is cut or otherwise altered.)

(I too am hoping Criterion comes through with this one.)

Truffaut Fan · 01-03-03, 06:40 PM

Is there a Scandanavian release of this that is 1.33 with English subtitles by chance??

I really want this film but don't want the cropped UK disc.

Jeff

Lucas · 01-05-03, 02:52 AM

Is there a Scandanavian release of this that is 1.33 with English subtitles by chance??

No.

The UK disc is uncut. I don't see any problem with the aspect ratio -it's not as if the film should be anamorphic and framed at 2.35:1. It's meant to look rough and it is. The UK disc is Region Free BTW (that's PAL not NTSC).

UK disc

DVD Talk's review of an Asian release

03-12-02, 03:25 PM	#1
jhriley42 New Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 4	Lars Von Trier "The Idiots" DVD I recently bought a region 0 dvd of "The Idiots" from HK with English and Chinese subtitles. To my surprise, it had been edited heavily. The original film runs 117 minutes, and this one is only 110. When I looked up the UK version of the DVD, it was 110 too. Is there not an unedited version of this movie without black bars or totally deleted segments? Any help is appreciated. JHriley

03-12-02, 06:10 PM	#2
ScreachingWeasel Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Wasted outskirts of Escondido Posts: 601	I have the Uk disc and I'm 99.9 % sure it is uncut. The time being 110 minutes is probably from the pal speed up which is 4% faster than NTSC. The only bad thing about the UK Idiots dvd is that it is supposedly very slightly cropped from 1:33 to 1:66. __________________ How did the cat get so fat?(Profiler Style)

03-12-02, 06:41 PM	#4
jhriley42 New Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 4	How to tell if it's uncut. If you can see penises, then it's uncut. In the US VHS version, you see moving black bars. It really draws away from the film and draws your attention to the nudity even more.

03-12-02, 07:14 PM	#6
jhriley42 New Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 4	C.O.B.R.A. Cool. Now I can satisfy my porn obsession under the guise of watching "art"...ur, I mean, uh....nevermind. Thanks, everyone, for the info

03-12-02, 10:33 PM	#7
Giles DVD Talk Hero Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Washington DC Posts: 29,911	Someone correct if I am wrong, but was this film ever released on US Region 1 DVD? Even the VHS version, which I thought might have been restored to it's full unrated glory, is still the abbreviated censored R-rated version. Penises....uncut.....heehee Last edited by Giles; 03-12-02 at 10:35 PM.

03-12-02, 06:41 PM	#3
axolotls return DVD Talk Special Edition Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: West Coast Posts: 1,745	It comes out to 114 about with the speed-up. The board did not touch this movie: So the UK version is uncut!!

03-13-02, 11:07 AM	#9
boc4ever DVD Talk Gold Edition Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: One horse town Posts: 2,696	Thanks for the info on the UK version of this! I saw HKFLIX offering the Japanese version a few months back, and avoided that version because of the black bars. I just placed an order with Bensons, and I can't wait to see it! __________________ Leslie: The only thing I will be waving is your decapitated head on a stick in front of your weeping mother! Stewie: Wow, nothing says success like free on a Tuesday at 3 PM ... I'll get there http://boc4ever.dvdaf.com/owned

04-11-02, 10:38 PM	#10
garmonbozia DVD Talk Limited Edition Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 5,919	There is an unedited version available on vcd that I got cheaply from some guy on ebay.....in case someone doesn't mind vcds. __________________ "Little moments like that prove to me that there is some kind of all-powerful, all-knowing force that controls everything in the universe. And it's so fucking bored, it'll actually take time out to orchestrate a petty letdown like that." -- Georgia Lass

01-03-03, 06:40 PM	#12
Truffaut Fan Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 345	Is there a Scandanavian release of this that is 1.33 with English subtitles by chance?? I really want this film but don't want the cropped UK disc. Jeff

01-05-03, 02:52 AM	#13
Lucas Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 224	Is there a Scandanavian release of this that is 1.33 with English subtitles by chance?? No. The UK disc is uncut. I don't see any problem with the aspect ratio -it's not as if the film should be anamorphic and framed at 2.35:1. It's meant to look rough and it is. The UK disc is Region Free BTW (that's PAL not NTSC). UK disc DVD Talk's review of an Asian release