2 Disc version of Traffic in France

Krug · 01-03-02, 07:20 PM

From http://www.darkhorizons.com/news.htm

Traffic (DVD): Amazon indicates a special 2-disc edition of Soderbergh's film has just come out in France with 14min making of, 26mins of deleted scenes, an interview with Steven Soderbergh and best of all an audio commentary by him - the last three bits were sadly lacking from the 2001 disc release in other areas of the world.

Sigh pisses me off. Does this mean we'll see a R1 version with these extras?

CitizenKaneRBud · 01-03-02, 07:36 PM

I was wondering the same thing.

It certainly deserves 2-disc treatment

Huge Bean · 01-03-02, 08:58 PM

Is there a good reason why they would not release this in R1 eventually?

Btw, Krug, the link doesn't work (the period at the end is messing it up)

Krug · 01-03-02, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Huge Bean
Is there a good reason why they would not release this in R1 eventually?

Btw, Krug, the link doesn't work (the period at the end is messing it up)

What's eventually? sigh..

sorry link fixed now.

RandomAxes · 01-03-02, 11:15 PM

I really hope we get a 2 disc treatment in R1. I've been putting off getting Traffic for quite a while now.

~shayne~

dvd2001 · 01-03-02, 11:43 PM

Well, at least we have a 2-disc R1 version of "TRAFFIK", the 6-hour British miniseries upon which "Traffic" was based.
I like Steve Soderbergh's films, and I liked Traffic. Then I watched Traffik a couple of months later, and it's a much better treatment of that subject, in my opinion. If you liked Traffic, you owe it to yourself to check it out.
Didn't mean to go off topic, but it seems like a good place to make a note about the other series.

Tyler_Durden · 01-04-02, 03:21 AM

Great!

I refused to buy the initial release because I just knew this would happen... and DTS (English) too!

Hendrik · 01-04-02, 04:49 AM

...well... ahh... yes... BUT...

...as the screen grab from the French release clearly shows
( http://www.dvdrama.net/news.php3?3873 )
you get 'locked' (i.e. non-optional, non-removable) French subtitles when selecting either the English DD 5.1 or dts soundtrack...

...sigh...

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Tyler_Durden · 01-04-02, 06:50 AM

That's what I feared, and won't buy the disc because of this. Damn_French! Why do they have to reserve all the greatness to themselves?

However, I don't think there's ever been a director's commentary for an American film that was never released in the U.S... I'm sure it's just a matter of time. But why hasn't USA Films made any announcement yet? It's not like Soderbergh recorded the track exclusively for the French...

SightandSound · 01-04-02, 07:36 AM

That's just what I was thinking Tyler...that would be odd for an American Film/Filmmaker to be released with a commentary only in France.

After all, it was fairly popular here, it's not like the commentary was a French exclusive...or maybe it was? I gotta think, no, though.

Hendrik · 01-04-02, 08:48 AM

...ahh... please (!) look at the screen-grab again: there is NO 'commentary' !...

...there are three soundtracks... not 2, not 4, but 3 :

* V.O. sous-titrée Français (5.1)
= Original version with French subtitles ([DD] 5.1)

* Version Française (5.1)
= [dubbed] French version ([DD] 5.1)

* V.O. sous-titrée Français (DTS)
= Original version with French subtitles (DTS)

* Sous-titres sourds et malentendants
= captions for the deaf and hard-of-hearing

...thus are urban legends born, causing great - and undeserved - stress for no reason at all...

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Trinitron · 01-04-02, 08:59 AM

I've had this preordered for a while, especially for the DTS. Let's hope the subtitles can be turned off on the fly --

Hendrik · 01-04-02, 09:14 AM

Trinitron: ...umm... you realize (but of course you do!) that during certain portions of this movie Spanish is spoken ... assuming the subtitles can indeed be turned OFF on-the-fly (which I doubt!) you will be left with longish stretches of dialog that you won't understand (unless you happen to know Spanish well enough)...

...just thought I'd mention it...

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Tyler_Durden · 01-04-02, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hendrik
there is NO 'commentary' !...

You're right, that seems to be the case. If all the extras are on the second disc and there is no "extras" menu on the first one, the audio menu would be the one to list the commentary track, but alas, there doesn't seem to be one...

Apocrypha · 01-04-02, 10:08 AM

I thought I remember S.S. saying during some interview that there were reasons he wouldn't do a commentary for this film. (political if I recall)

Trinitron · 01-04-02, 10:55 PM

Hendrik: Forgot about that, but I suppose those interested will have to make do. No English subtitles, either.

Also, from dvdfr.com, it seems fairly clear that there's no commentary track.

codefree · 01-04-02, 11:54 PM

Some Pioneer regionfree players (like mine) can remove forced subs. Guess I'll be ordering this.

Hendrik · 01-05-02, 05:13 AM

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...ahh...Señor codefree... así Vd. habla Español?!... yo no!

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Trinitron · 01-22-02, 06:20 PM

All right, this arrived today. Mixed bag.

The subtitles are *not* changeable on the fly, so unless you like having French subtitles you're out of luck. Also, unless you speak Spanish or French you will indeed not be able to understand some stretches of the film. The DTS track sounded fairly good, but its probably too much trouble in light of this.

On the other hand, the supplements are almost all accessible in English (again subtitled in French), are moderately extensive, and made the disc worthwhile despite the language mess in the film itself.

Cornfed · 01-22-02, 08:36 PM

TWO DISCS? Must be a long movie...

Scorsese · 01-23-02, 11:11 AM

Trinitron,

Let me know if you want to trade it..

01-03-02, 07:20 PM	#1
Krug DVD Talk Special Edition Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Thoradin Posts: 1,468	2 Disc version of Traffic in France From http://www.darkhorizons.com/news.htm Traffic (DVD): Amazon indicates a special 2-disc edition of Soderbergh's film has just come out in France with 14min making of, 26mins of deleted scenes, an interview with Steven Soderbergh and best of all an audio commentary by him - the last three bits were sadly lacking from the 2001 disc release in other areas of the world. Sigh pisses me off. Does this mean we'll see a R1 version with these extras? Last edited by Krug; 01-03-02 at 08:59 PM.

01-04-02, 03:21 AM	#7
Tyler_Durden DVD Talk Ultimate Edition Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 4,516	Great! I refused to buy the initial release because I just knew this would happen... and DTS (English) too! __________________ Boris: There's been a mistake! I know, I made it! Love and Death (1975)

01-04-02, 04:49 AM	#8
Hendrik DVD Talk Limited Edition Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah - USA Posts: 5,196	...well... ahh... yes... BUT... ...as the screen grab from the French release clearly shows ( http://www.dvdrama.net/news.php3?3873 ) you get 'locked' (i.e. non-optional, non-removable) French subtitles when selecting either the English DD 5.1 or dts soundtrack... ...sigh... . . . . . . Last edited by Hendrik; 01-04-02 at 04:55 AM.

01-04-02, 06:50 AM	#9
Tyler_Durden DVD Talk Ultimate Edition Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 4,516	That's what I feared, and won't buy the disc because of this. Damn_French! Why do they have to reserve all the greatness to themselves? However, I don't think there's ever been a director's commentary for an American film that was never released in the U.S... I'm sure it's just a matter of time. But why hasn't USA Films made any announcement yet? It's not like Soderbergh recorded the track exclusively for the French... __________________ Boris: There's been a mistake! I know, I made it! Love and Death (1975)

01-22-02, 08:36 PM	#20
Cornfed DVD Talk Special Edition Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edwardsville, IL, USA Posts: 1,278	TWO DISCS? Must be a long movie... __________________ His momma named him Clay; I'ma call him Clay.

01-03-02, 07:36 PM	#2
CitizenKaneRBud Suspended Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 784	I was wondering the same thing. It certainly deserves 2-disc treatment

01-03-02, 08:58 PM	#3
Huge Bean DVD Talk Special Edition Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 1,367	Is there a good reason why they would not release this in R1 eventually? Btw, Krug, the link doesn't work (the period at the end is messing it up)

01-03-02, 11:15 PM	#5
RandomAxes Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 139	I really hope we get a 2 disc treatment in R1. I've been putting off getting Traffic for quite a while now. ~shayne~

01-03-02, 11:43 PM	#6
dvd2001 DVD Talk Special Edition Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: California Posts: 1,137	Well, at least we have a 2-disc R1 version of "TRAFFIK", the 6-hour British miniseries upon which "Traffic" was based. I like Steve Soderbergh's films, and I liked Traffic. Then I watched Traffik a couple of months later, and it's a much better treatment of that subject, in my opinion. If you liked Traffic, you owe it to yourself to check it out. Didn't mean to go off topic, but it seems like a good place to make a note about the other series.

01-04-02, 07:36 AM	#10
SightandSound Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 468	That's just what I was thinking Tyler...that would be odd for an American Film/Filmmaker to be released with a commentary only in France. After all, it was fairly popular here, it's not like the commentary was a French exclusive...or maybe it was? I gotta think, no, though.

01-04-02, 08:48 AM	#11
Hendrik DVD Talk Limited Edition Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah - USA Posts: 5,196	...ahh... please (!) look at the screen-grab again: there is NO 'commentary' !... ...there are three soundtracks... not 2, not 4, but 3 : * V.O. sous-titrée Français (5.1) = Original version with French subtitles ([DD] 5.1) * Version Française (5.1) = [dubbed] French version ([DD] 5.1) * V.O. sous-titrée Français (DTS) = Original version with French subtitles (DTS) * Sous-titres sourds et malentendants = captions for the deaf and hard-of-hearing ...thus are urban legends born, causing great - and undeserved - stress for no reason at all... . . . . . .

01-04-02, 08:59 AM	#12
Trinitron Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 329	I've had this preordered for a while, especially for the DTS. Let's hope the subtitles can be turned off on the fly --

01-04-02, 09:14 AM	#13
Hendrik DVD Talk Limited Edition Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah - USA Posts: 5,196	Trinitron: ...umm... you realize (but of course you do!) that during certain portions of this movie Spanish is spoken ... assuming the subtitles can indeed be turned OFF on-the-fly (which I doubt!) you will be left with longish stretches of dialog that you won't understand (unless you happen to know Spanish well enough)... ...just thought I'd mention it... . . . . . .

01-04-02, 10:08 AM	#15
Apocrypha DVD Talk Special Edition Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: The White Lodge Posts: 1,743	I thought I remember S.S. saying during some interview that there were reasons he wouldn't do a commentary for this film. (political if I recall)

01-04-02, 10:55 PM	#16
Trinitron Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 329	Hendrik: Forgot about that, but I suppose those interested will have to make do. No English subtitles, either. Also, from dvdfr.com, it seems fairly clear that there's no commentary track.

01-04-02, 11:54 PM	#17
codefree Guest Join Date: May 1999 Location: USA - Bush: Selected, not elected Posts: 12,212	Some Pioneer regionfree players (like mine) can remove forced subs. Guess I'll be ordering this.

01-05-02, 05:13 AM	#18
Hendrik DVD Talk Limited Edition Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah - USA Posts: 5,196	. ...ahh...Señor codefree... así Vd. habla Español?!... yo no! . . . . . .

01-22-02, 06:20 PM	#19
Trinitron Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 329	All right, this arrived today. Mixed bag. The subtitles are not changeable on the fly, so unless you like having French subtitles you're out of luck. Also, unless you speak Spanish or French you will indeed not be able to understand some stretches of the film. The DTS track sounded fairly good, but its probably too much trouble in light of this. On the other hand, the supplements are almost all accessible in English (again subtitled in French), are moderately extensive, and made the disc worthwhile despite the language mess in the film itself.

01-23-02, 11:11 AM	#21
Scorsese Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Montréal Posts: 105	Trinitron, Let me know if you want to trade it..