Release List Reviews Shop Join News DVD Giveaways Video Games Advertise
DVD Reviews | Theatrical Reviews | Price Search Buy Stuff Here
DVD Talk
DVD Reviews DVD Talk Headlines HD Reviews


Add to My Yahoo! - RSS 2.0 - RSS 2.0 - DVD Talk Podcast RSS -


Go Back   DVD Talk Forum > DVD Discussions > HD Talk

HD Talk The place to discuss HD DVD, Blu-ray and all other forms and formats of HD and HDTV.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 07-17-17, 08:24 PM   #26
Inane Thread Master
 
OldBoy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Are any of us really anywhere?
Posts: 31,514
Re: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly- New Remaster w/ both cuts this Summer 2017!

just ordered this.

so which is better cut of movie?

haven't seen in forever. maybe once or twice in life, and not sure which cut i saw, but definitely not for many many years...
__________________
"be kind rewind" Movie collection
"Even though I am no better than a beast, don't I have the right to live?"
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-17, 11:15 PM   #27
DVD Talk Hero
 
Rypro 525's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: a frikin hellhole
Posts: 28,081
Re: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly- New Remaster w/ both cuts this Summer 2017!

Quote:
Originally Posted by OldBoy View Post
just ordered this.

so which is better cut of movie?

haven't seen in forever. maybe once or twice in life, and not sure which cut i saw, but definitely not for many many years...
very partial to the US cut, if only because, as the movie was shot silent & had to be dubbed in post, the 'new' scenes have much older versions of Clint and Eli and its obvious. Though it does fill in a hole or 2.
__________________
Follow me: http://twitter.com/TheChewDefense
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-18-17, 08:11 AM   #28
DVD Talk Special Edition
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Parts Unknown
Posts: 1,487
Re: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly- New Remaster w/ both cuts this Summer 2017!

My personal favorite version has always been the theatrical cut. The pacing is better and some of the newest scenes in the Extended Cut IMO don't. It's the primary reason I've held on to the 98 MGM DVD.

Last edited by Ringmaster; 07-18-17 at 10:53 AM.
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-18-17, 10:09 AM   #29
Inane Thread Master
 
OldBoy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Are any of us really anywhere?
Posts: 31,514
Re: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly- New Remaster w/ both cuts this Summer 2017!

Really? I always thought the extended was the preferred...
__________________
"be kind rewind" Movie collection
"Even though I am no better than a beast, don't I have the right to live?"
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-18-17, 11:00 AM   #30
DVD Talk Special Edition
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Parts Unknown
Posts: 1,487
Re: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly- New Remaster w/ both cuts this Summer 2017!

For me, the scenes drag out a bit. They also stick out like a sore thumb since Eastwood and Wallach recently dubbed the extended scenes and they don't match to what was recorded in the 60s.

The actor who dubbed Lee Van Cleef sounded great to me and I felt they should have done the same with Eastwood and Wallach.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-17, 11:01 PM   #31
DVD Talk Hero
 
Rypro 525's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: a frikin hellhole
Posts: 28,081
Re: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly- New Remaster w/ both cuts this Summer 2017!

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-Go...9/#Screenshots
their reviewer gave it a 3.5 in the picture department. and noted that Kino Lorber "listened" to those that bitched about the yellow tint of the MGM disc. I'd have to see these in motion but these certainly look better than the old extended cut dvd, and while i didn't have any issue w the 'yellow' tint, this new release doesn't look unnaturall to my eyes
__________________
Follow me: http://twitter.com/TheChewDefense
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-17, 02:22 AM   #32
DVD Talk Special Edition
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Parts Unknown
Posts: 1,487
Re: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly- New Remaster w/ both cuts this Summer 2017!

There's a lot of hostility and rude behavior being exhibited by certain Blu-ray.com members about this release. They're acting this way towards a Kino Lorber representative too which I find distasteful.

I'm going to judge the disc myself when it arrives on my doorstep but hopefully reviews from other sites, including this one, will pop up soon with a different perspective.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-17, 10:13 PM   #33
DVD Talk Hero
 
Rypro 525's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: a frikin hellhole
Posts: 28,081
Re: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly- New Remaster w/ both cuts this Summer 2017!

Also if i recall the 4K MGM disc was supervised by the cameraman so maybe "yellowish" is how its supposed to look
__________________
Follow me: http://twitter.com/TheChewDefense
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-17, 01:03 PM   #34
Cool New Member
 
Grainy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 29
Re: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly- New Remaster w/ both cuts this Summer 2017!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rypro 525 View Post
Also if i recall the 4K MGM disc was supervised by the cameraman so maybe "yellowish" is how its supposed to look
I'm no where near as bothered by the MGM 4K color as what I've read elsewhere. There are a few spots where the yellow does seem a little heavy, not sure why that is, but for the most part it looks good. The detail and film texture in the 4K re-master is excellent.
I have the Kino pre-ordered, and should get it by early next week.
Anyone here have it yet?
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-17, 06:14 PM   #35
DVD Talk Hero
 
Rypro 525's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: a frikin hellhole
Posts: 28,081
Re: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly- New Remaster w/ both cuts this Summer 2017!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Grainy View Post
I'm no where near as bothered by the MGM 4K color as what I've read elsewhere. There are a few spots where the yellow does seem a little heavy, not sure why that is, but for the most part it looks good. The detail and film texture in the 4K re-master is excellent.
I have the Kino pre-ordered, and should get it by early next week.
Anyone here have it yet?
got my email saying it should be at home by tomorrow
__________________
Follow me: http://twitter.com/TheChewDefense
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-17, 06:40 PM   #36
Inane Thread Master
 
OldBoy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Are any of us really anywhere?
Posts: 31,514
Re: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly- New Remaster w/ both cuts this Summer 2017!

anyone prefer the extended cut?
__________________
"be kind rewind" Movie collection
"Even though I am no better than a beast, don't I have the right to live?"
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-17, 07:47 PM   #37
DVD Talk Gold Edition
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Millville, New Jersey
Posts: 2,853
Re: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly- New Remaster w/ both cuts this Summer 2017!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ringmaster View Post
There's a lot of hostility and rude behavior being exhibited by certain Blu-ray.com members about this release. They're acting this way towards a Kino Lorber representative too which I find distasteful.

I'm going to judge the disc myself when it arrives on my doorstep but hopefully reviews from other sites, including this one, will pop up soon with a different perspective.
I do have this already, of course, from prior releases. The reviews haven't been good that i've seen. So i'm going to wait a bit and save a little on my wallet. But if it turns out to be better I will get it at a later time.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-17, 07:50 PM   #38
Cool New Member
 
Grainy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 29
Re: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly- New Remaster w/ both cuts this Summer 2017!

Quote:
Originally Posted by OldBoy View Post
anyone prefer the extended cut?
I thought it was nice to have, but I was too used to the original U.S. cut. My favorite version is in the MGM Trilogy LD Box. I think it's closest to the original, which I saw on a triple bill in the early 70s. That LD cut is different from the later MGM DVD for some reason.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-17, 10:02 PM   #39
DVD Talk Gold Edition
 
Greg MacGuffin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Formerly known as "Jeffy Pop"/Denver
Posts: 2,556
Re: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly- New Remaster w/ both cuts this Summer 2017!

Quote:
Originally Posted by OldBoy View Post
anyone prefer the extended cut?
Only you, Inane Thread Master.
__________________
"My name is Luke Cooper. I love cinema. My favorite movies are Citizen Kane and The Boondock Saints."
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-17, 05:07 PM   #40
DVD Talk Hero
 
Rypro 525's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: a frikin hellhole
Posts: 28,081
Re: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly- New Remaster w/ both cuts this Summer 2017!

because i don't know how to post photos from the phone, this is how the new GBU blu looks on my tv, an LG 4k 43 in tv
also noteworthy, the Kino blu has Lossless mono on both cuts in both English and the original itallian. the MGM 4k blu has a 1.0 lossy track
__________________
Follow me: http://twitter.com/TheChewDefense

Last edited by Rypro 525; 08-15-17 at 05:34 PM.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-17, 05:39 PM   #41
DVD Talk Legend
 
Why So Blu?'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 23,769
Re: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly- New Remaster w/ both cuts this Summer 2017!

My copy arrived -- may watch it tonight or tomorrow.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-17, 06:43 PM   #42
DVD Talk Gold Edition
 
rocket1312's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 2,961
Re: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly- New Remaster w/ both cuts this Summer 2017!

The movie is supposed to be yellow. It's the green/cyan that's the problem. From what I've seen of the new disc, Kino simply did a universal yellow reduction without using any real reference. Some shots look ok. Some look like crap. The teal skies in a lot of shots is the dead giveaway that something's still amiss. In Kino's defense, the master they were provided with is heavily compromised, and even if they would've put in the proper time and energy to do a real color correction, they still couldn't have gotten it right. Hopefully another label somewhere in the world gets a crack at the raw 4k master and can do a proper color grading at some point. Until then, I think I'll stick with my fan edited Mondo disc.
__________________
My BDs
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-17, 09:58 PM   #43
Inane Thread Master
 
OldBoy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Are any of us really anywhere?
Posts: 31,514
Re: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly- New Remaster w/ both cuts this Summer 2017!

wait this was originally in Italian? i think i saw the English version. is that not the preferred?
__________________
"be kind rewind" Movie collection
"Even though I am no better than a beast, don't I have the right to live?"
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-17, 07:53 AM   #44
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 251
Re: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly- New Remaster w/ both cuts this Summer 2017!

..I just rec. my copy and it is a big disappointment..the colors are really muted and all the extras have a shakiness to the pq..this is a big let down..i will happily sell this version and keep my mgm release which is a 100% better
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-17, 08:50 AM   #45
DVD Talk Legend
 
Josh Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Boston
Posts: 10,866
Re: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly- New Remaster w/ both cuts this Summer 2017!

Quote:
Originally Posted by OldBoy View Post
wait this was originally in Italian? i think i saw the English version. is that not the preferred?
Do you really think Clint Eastwood delivered all his lines in Italian?
__________________
Josh Z
Writer/Editor, High-Def Digest (Blog updated daily!)
Curator, Laserdisc Forever
My opinions are my own, and do not necessarily reflect those of my employers.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-17, 09:01 AM   #46
Inane Thread Master
 
OldBoy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Are any of us really anywhere?
Posts: 31,514
Re: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly- New Remaster w/ both cuts this Summer 2017!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh Z View Post
Do you really think Clint Eastwood delivered all his lines in Italian?
i don't know, but it is Leone, which is why i asked bc i was confused that an Italian track was mentioned. plus, i thought Eastwood got his start in Italian spaghetti westerns or something...
__________________
"be kind rewind" Movie collection
"Even though I am no better than a beast, don't I have the right to live?"

Last edited by OldBoy; 08-16-17 at 09:46 AM.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-17, 12:14 PM   #47
DVD Talk Legend
 
Josh Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Boston
Posts: 10,866
Re: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly- New Remaster w/ both cuts this Summer 2017!

Quote:
Originally Posted by OldBoy View Post
i don't know, but it is Leone, which is why i asked bc i was confused that an Italian track was mentioned. plus, i thought Eastwood got his start in Italian spaghetti westerns or something...
Eastwood got his start in American B-movies and TV. (He was a major character on Rawhide.) The Spaghetti Westerns propelled him to big time stardom.

European productions like this were typically shot without any live dialogue recording. The actors spoke a mix of languages on set, all of which would be dubbed to a common language for each release market. Because Eastwood, Van Cleef and Wallach (the three title characters) all delivered their lines in English, that's generally considered the "original" soundtrack.

However, when the extended cut of the movie was put together in 2003, it was discovered that the main cast had never actually recorded dialogue for some of the new scenes. As a result, the much-older Eastwood and Wallach dubbed their lines at that time and sound noticeably different than they did when they were younger. Voice doubles were used for Lee Van Cleef and some of the other actors that had passed away.
__________________
Josh Z
Writer/Editor, High-Def Digest (Blog updated daily!)
Curator, Laserdisc Forever
My opinions are my own, and do not necessarily reflect those of my employers.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-17, 09:35 PM   #48
Inane Thread Master
 
OldBoy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Are any of us really anywhere?
Posts: 31,514
Re: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly- New Remaster w/ both cuts this Summer 2017!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh Z View Post
Eastwood got his start in American B-movies and TV. (He was a major character on Rawhide.) The Spaghetti Westerns propelled him to big time stardom.

European productions like this were typically shot without any live dialogue recording. The actors spoke a mix of languages on set, all of which would be dubbed to a common language for each release market. Because Eastwood, Van Cleef and Wallach (the three title characters) all delivered their lines in English, that's generally considered the "original" soundtrack.

However, when the extended cut of the movie was put together in 2003, it was discovered that the main cast had never actually recorded dialogue for some of the new scenes. As a result, the much-older Eastwood and Wallach dubbed their lines at that time and sound noticeably different than they did when they were younger. Voice doubles were used for Lee Van Cleef and some of the other actors that had passed away.
thanks for the detailed clarification! i really need to see this extended cut. but, having them dub the lines seems weird and i hope doesn't take me out of this magnificent opus...
__________________
"be kind rewind" Movie collection
"Even though I am no better than a beast, don't I have the right to live?"
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-17, 09:43 PM   #49
DVD Talk Special Edition
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Parts Unknown
Posts: 1,487
Re: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly- New Remaster w/ both cuts this Summer 2017!

If you've never seen either version of the movie, then I suggest you don't look up which are the extended scenes and which aren't because maybe it won't make a difference to you, Oldboy. I've seen the 98 MGM cut so many times that the extra scenes in the Extended Version stick out.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-17, 09:51 PM   #50
Inane Thread Master
 
OldBoy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Are any of us really anywhere?
Posts: 31,514
Re: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly- New Remaster w/ both cuts this Summer 2017!

i think i only saw this once and i think it was theatrical. really don't remember, maybe saw both, but who knows. just know i really loved it. think i will start with extended and see how that plays out...
__________________
"be kind rewind" Movie collection
"Even though I am no better than a beast, don't I have the right to live?"
  Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:54 PM.


Copyright 2011 DVDTalk.com All Rights Reserved. Privacy Policy and Terms of Use.

Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0