Is Ultra HD Blu-ray really worth the upgrade? (split from the DVD/BD sales thread)
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The only thing that irks me is having to buy two separate releases if I want 3D. The studios are still showing strong support for 3D but I almost feel as if they are making us choose between either one or the other. For those of us that enjoy 3D it's only a matter of time I fear.
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Re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - um, okay, I guess the % doesn't keep going up
Like I said, posts are sorted chronologically. I can't create a new post and have it appear before the older ones. Similarly, the thread is listed as being started by whoever's responsible for the first post in the thread, and that's not something I can override either. I don't think the subject is snarky.
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This is an excellent piece by A/V guru David Susilo dispelling some of the misconceptions about UHD and 4K video.
https://davidsusilouncensored.wordpr...eptions-of-4k/
https://davidsusilouncensored.wordpr...eptions-of-4k/
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Re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - um, okay, I guess the % doesn't keep going up
Like I said in the other thread, posts are sorted chronologically. I can't create a new post and have it appear before the older ones. Similarly, the thread is listed as being started by whoever's responsible for the first post in the thread, and that's not something I can override either. I don't think the subject is snarky.
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Re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - um, okay, I guess the % doesn't keep going up
I genuinely don't know what you're getting at. I recognize that there's much about UHD BD and the current state of UHD as a whole deserving of criticism, I don't even have a UHD TV and therefore no skin in the game, and I'm hopeful but have very modest expectations for the format's success.
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re: Is Ultra HD Blu-ray really worth the upgrade? (split from the DVD/BD sales thread)
Fine, if that's true, then change the thread title to something far less confrontational.
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Re: Is Ultra HD Blu-ray really worth the upgrade? (split from the DVD/BD sales thread
You do need to cool it about painting those interested in Ultra HD Blu-ray with excessively broad brushes: the whole "Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence" routine, "woody over the bragging rights", etc. Those are not the words of someone interested in a genuine discussion.
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Re: Is Ultra HD Blu-ray really worth the upgrade? (split from the DVD/BD sales thread
Never did. It was your narrow interpretation of my full comment regarding UHD/4K. There is without-a-doubt a number of people who are early adopters because of what I called "bragging rights." That's why fools line up to get the newest iphone that is essentially the same phone they currently use. It's the same reason many people buy new cars every two years. Yes, it's sometimes about function and features but sometimes it's to show off to the neighbors. To deny that element of the allure of UHD/4K is ignoring reality—and human nature.
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Re: Is Ultra HD Blu-ray really worth the upgrade? (split from the DVD/BD sales thread
The only thing that irks me is having to buy two separate releases if I want 3D. The studios are still showing strong support for 3D but I almost feel as if they are making us choose between either one or the other. For those of us that enjoy 3D it's only a matter of time I fear.
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Re: Is Ultra HD Blu-ray really worth the upgrade? (split from the DVD/BD sales thread
Of the 129 UHD TVs on bestbuy.com, only 18 are flagged as having 3D capability. Of the 79 UHD TVs listed on Amazon and sold by amazon.com (as opposed to a third party seller, Warehouse Deals, etc.), 15 are flagged as having 3D support.
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Not sure how much of a demo disc this will actually be, but the 60 fps makes me think we'll be seeing 2017 models capable of HFR. Then maybe The Hobbit films at one point I would think.
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Re: Is Ultra HD Blu-ray really worth the upgrade? (split from the DVD/BD sales thread
What is "60FPS vs 24FPS" supposed to mean? That it has both versions in 4k, or some sort of demo of both options, even if only one (presumably, 60FPS) would be on the disc?
Also, this was filmed at 120FPS, yes?
Sounds like something I'd want to rent, just to see it, but I don't have any desire to own it.
Is RedBox renting out UHDs yet?
Also, this was filmed at 120FPS, yes?
Sounds like something I'd want to rent, just to see it, but I don't have any desire to own it.
Is RedBox renting out UHDs yet?
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Yes, this one was filmed at 120fps, but i'm guessing it was converted to 60fps to accommodate upcoming TV models that are supposedly able to play 60fps content, as no TV will be doing 120fps for sometime. Definitely not in the next few years. Or maybe? But I agree, no desire to own it. If anything, I'll pick it up during a holiday sale next year for under $20.
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The closest to accurate 3D presentation would be 720p resolution at 30fps, but they'll likely do it at 1080 24fps instead like The Hobbit movies. I don't even know what theaters in my area played it, but guess I'll never be seeing it.
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Re: Is Ultra HD Blu-ray really worth the upgrade? (split from the DVD/BD sales thread
It still really bums me out that Billy Lynn didn't play at 120fps at any theatres in Houston. I'd have gladly driven across town just to see it, even though every indication pointed to the movie being pretty bad. I'm sure a few hundred other people would have done the same.
Hell, I'd have driven to Austin if I had to! (and I'd stop at TacoDeli on my way to the theatre)
I heard there were only 4 or 5 theatres in the world that played it at 120fps. What a disappointment.
Anyway... yeah. Maybe a $15 blind-buy for me. Otherwise, I'll pass.
Hell, I'd have driven to Austin if I had to! (and I'd stop at TacoDeli on my way to the theatre)
I heard there were only 4 or 5 theatres in the world that played it at 120fps. What a disappointment.
Anyway... yeah. Maybe a $15 blind-buy for me. Otherwise, I'll pass.
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Come for the tacos, skip the theaters. It pisses me off to no end we don't have one single Atmos enabled theater here. Closest is in San Marcos. To say nothing about any theater doing Dolby Vision and/or HDR.
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Re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - um, okay, I guess the % doesn't keep going up
The last numbers I saw had UHD BD quadrupling Blu-ray unit sales when the first few months of their lifespans are aligned. Admittedly, Blu-ray was in the middle of a format war, which prevents any comparison from truly being apples-to-apples, but those are hardly dismal numbers.
New titles usually come at a $5 premium, and that seems reasonable to me.
Catalog titles are a tough pill to swallow, though. Looking at Amazon, Mad Max: Fury Road is $8.99 on BD but $29.99 on UHD BD. Oblivion is $8.06 on BD and $22.50 on UHD BD. Pacific Rim is $9.99 for the 3D BD set but $31.99 on UHD BD. That'll hopefully change over time, just as it has with DVD vs. Blu-ray, but I don't see a lot of BD->UHD BD upgrades in my future.
Catalog titles are a tough pill to swallow, though. Looking at Amazon, Mad Max: Fury Road is $8.99 on BD but $29.99 on UHD BD. Oblivion is $8.06 on BD and $22.50 on UHD BD. Pacific Rim is $9.99 for the 3D BD set but $31.99 on UHD BD. That'll hopefully change over time, just as it has with DVD vs. Blu-ray, but I don't see a lot of BD->UHD BD upgrades in my future.
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Probably because you need glasses for everyone. I know that we rarely watch them because it's a hassle to get all the kids to put them on, make sure they have charge, etc.
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Re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - um, okay, I guess the % doesn't keep going up
If you bought passive there'd be no need for a charge, or batteries, etc. Just slap 'em on and go! I do think the 'dueling formats' situation in the early days of 3D didn't do it any favours, but thankfully we're enjoying something of an embarrassment of riches with 3D titles these days, so clearly the niche survived. I know both sides have their proponents, but I never understood why they even bothered with cumbersome and glitchy 'active' 3D for the home when that format was losing out to the more convenient passive glasses in theaters even then.
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Re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - um, okay, I guess the % doesn't keep going up
Probably because it was the only way to get full HD in 3D before the introduction of 4k passive sets. 3D in a 1080p passive had the resolution cut down to 540p for each eye.
Passive 3D on a 4K set has finally perfected the process....but nobody is interested any more.
Passive 3D on a 4K set has finally perfected the process....but nobody is interested any more.
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Re: Is Ultra HD Blu-ray really worth the upgrade? (split from the DVD/BD sales thread
LG's Passive 3D is pretty much perfect IMO as is. Glasses are weightless, dirt cheap, comfortable and don't need to charge like active models. As someone else mentioned, 4K displays also offer full resolution.