morriscroy

We need more 4Kbluray porn movies!!!

Adam Tyner

It seems so alien to me that between 2003 and 2008, three different HDTVs cycled through my living room. It's been nearly a decade (!) since I preordered my 9G Kuro Elite, and I fully expect that the OLED I'm theoretically getting later this year will probably have to carry me for the better part of a decade as well. I'll wind up getting something really nice in part because I'm into that sort of thing but also because I'll be stuck with it for a long while.

morriscroy

Were the 2000s decade the golden age for hd screens?

For most of the 2000s decade, I either didn't have a tv at all or I was still watching old ntsc cathode-ray-tubes which various local friends gave to me over the years.

The times I didn't have a tv at all, was due to my previous tv screen being kicked in during a party. I was too lazy to replace it, when I had a lot of other issues to deal with than watching tv.

OldBoy

i get that, i do and used to be like that (still am, a little) but these will be obsolete before too long. i look back on my DVD collection, which are all boxed up and inaccessible. they just also feel inferior to me and hate to play one unless only option. i fear that will happen to my bluray collection soon enough. i love the convenience and ease of streaming stuff, especially from Vudu which sometimes has all the extras as the physical copy, which is why i opt for that in more cases now then ever before. physical media will, just like the mediums before it, fade away...

morriscroy

On the other hand, some mediums could have a comeback at a future time. Even if it's due solely to "hipsters".

For example, such as the resurgence in vinyl.

In hindsight, I'm glad I didn't chuck away my old record collection back in the early 1990s. At the time, I was too lazy to sell them or give it away. (They were in storage for more than 25 years).

AaronSch

I don't know your age, but I'm afraid physical media and the means of its playback will most likely out-live you. The human eye as well as ear have their limitations. So any future improvements will be negligible at best even in ideal viewing and listening environments... If anyone tells you anything different they are full of it. Other than autostereoscopic 3D, I can't think of any mind-blowing improvements on the horizon. As I mentioned previously, this hobby isn't just about watching movies for me. Otherwise I would sell off the whole kit and kaboodle.

If I ever got to the point where I had everything boxed up I would certainly begin the process of selling off a large portion of that collection. I'm constantly weeding out the titles i am unlikely to re-watch. With the introduction of each new format I hastily sold off what I had collected previously but not so with 4K UHD. Much of what I own will never make it to that format and much of what has been released I already own on Blu-ray. I simply feel no compulsion to upgrade. This topic has been discussed ad nauseam and that's just about all I want to say regarding 4K UHD. Others feel differently and all I have to say is "enjioy!" But I remain unconvinced. In fact, I'd rather start hunting down a few titles on DVD that are unlikely to be released in HD that I've desired.

I sold off my entire CD collection when i parted with my first blu-ray collection. Although I burnt every disc on to iTunes, I miss owning the physical discs. I always felt LPs were a major pain-in-the ass to playback.

Alan Smithee

I don't think there's a single 4K porn disc out there, which is a bit surprising. Porn is one genre that a lot of people seem unwilling to pay for, and are happy to settle for lo-res clips online for free.

Again though, it all comes down to who was around during the laserdisc era- when most new movies on that format averaged $40, it's a blessing to pay less than that for something on a higher-quality format. still can't bring myself to pay the asking prices for most 4K discs though- La-La Land and 50 Shades Darker are on my want list for that format but waiting for them to drop a bit more, considering I paid about $16 for the first 50 Shades movie on Blu-Ray. I'll still gladly throw $30 at a 3D movie though, just ordered Return of Xander Cage for that much from Target as NO stores seem to be stocking it at all and you can't find it cheaper anywhere else online. Also paid a bit for the new Underworld and Resident Evil movies in 3D via import since they aren't being released here; probably wouldn't pay more than $5 for any of those if they were in 2D!

Coral

I don't believe porn sells many discs nowadays with the convenience and privacy of the internet. Certainly the amount of those people that would be interested/prepared for UHD-BD would be minuscule.

I think most of the major porn studios offer their videos in HD quality, and a number of them in 4K even. I'm sure most people view porn for free, but the studios must still have enough paying customers as they're still in business.

kd5

I always have to shake my head when I read comments to the effect that DVDs are so distasteful in light of more current formats that the person has their DVDs boxed up sitting in their basement, like they used to keep the mentally retarded/deformed child locked up in an attic to keep them safely away from their fine sensibilities and so their neighbors won't find out.....OMG!!!

Bullshit.

I have just as much pride and respect in the DVDs in my collection, that I do my blu-rays. I display them all proudly in fine finished bookcases for any and all to see, I don't care what people think. This is my hobby, my bid to please myself. Anyone else (except my wife) can eat my shorts.

Jay G.

I took it to mean that he just had so many of them that he ran out of space to store them all in his living area with easy access. There does seem to be a bit of prioritization with not packing Blu-rays away, but that could be just because they're more current.

AaronSch has a point about selling off discs instead of packing them away, since once discs become too inaccessible you might as well not own them. However both methods show that ownership has limits, and if you can't reasonably own everything you want to watch, what's the point in purchasing discs of everything in the first place?

This is the appeal of streaming services for a lot of people; with subscription services you get access to a lot of content without having to physically own everything. Even with people who want to "own" something, a digital collection is easier to manage and doesn't take up physical space.

Personally, I wouldn't want physical media to go away completely, but I also use a fair amount of streaming services. I have both subscription services and "own" digital copies, although most of those were codes that came with discs or Disc-to-Digital conversions. If a digital copy purchase costs less than a rental, I may also buy that. I have pretty much run out of physical space to own discs, so I've been trying to limit physical purchases to only things I really, really, want to own.

morriscroy

This is pretty much what I've had to do for a long time.

My main disc interest is older tv shows, where a lot of it has never been released on bluray. (Never mind 4Kbluray).

orangerunner

Streaming vs. physical will always be based on one's preference.

For myself, I never bought any TV shows on DVD and therefore if I had to stream TV shows for the rest of my life, I would be perfectly happy with it.

I guess it stems from the idea that TV shows were always "free" and came through the airwaves, so streaming is virtually identical to how I have always viewed them.

Movies on the other hand played in theatres in which you had to pay a considerable amount of money to see them and therefore I regarded them as having more value.

For me, physical discs are like an art form. The disc art, the packaging, the extras and an appreciation for the artistic efforts put into the product are what make them worth owning.

If you're old enough to remember; it's like a buddy buying an album and offering to record it on a tape for you. Yes, you had the music on a generic-looking blank tape that was identical to the record but it had no "soul", it wasn't the real thing.

AaronSch

Typically, the only television shows I purchase are those with an episodic narrative and I own just a few. The shows in my collection are "Lost," "Black Sails," "Gotham," "Twin Peaks," the original and re-imagined "Battlestar Galactica" "Band of Brothers,", "The Pacific," "The Walking Dead," "The Clone Wars," etc. These are more like long-form movies. I also own "Batman," "Lost In Space," "Buck Rogers" and the original "Star Trek." These are steeped in nostalgia for me and worth the investment.

That is exactly what I was trying to convey but you nailed it. You know, there are those who post over at another forum who make fun of people motivated by packaging. They express how it's "all about the movie!" But put a blank disc in a plain white sleeve next to a disc with package art and which one do you think these geniuses would purchase? We are all motivated by the packaging at some level. For the most part, I prefer the original one sheet poster art with disc art as well. I collect steelbooks because, more often than not, they present the movie with a whole lot more, as you put it, soul. I had owned the cheap "Chinatown" steelbook that Warner Bros released while they handled Paramount titles for a couple of years without watching it. But when Zavvi released their gorgeous version with slipcover I sat down and watched it as soon as it arrived. Why? Hell if I know. But I think it stirred me in a way that created desire to watch the film. Yep, it had a bit more soul.

slop101

Yeah, packaging is huge. I mean, I have all the recent Simpsons seasons on a thumb-drive in 1080p, which is convenient as hell - it's far more convenient than having them on disc, even if you could fit it all on one disc (you can't). I can keep that thumb-drive in my pocket and stick it into any TV/smart-phone/PC/console/whatever, at any time, without wifi and have 10 seasons at my fingertips ready to go. But I would still much rather have them on discs, with cool packaging/artwork that has adorned 17 seasons, with nice informative booklets and copious extras. But no, Fox would rather me stream that stuff, so they can exert more control over me.

morriscroy

(On a tangent).

I know what you mean here.

Back in the day, I use to like collecting the vinyl 12" singles and picture discs released by Iron Maiden. The 12" single versions had the full sized Eddie artwork.

It was easier to find the 7" versions of many Iron Maiden vinyl singles, but it was packaged in generic Capitol/EMI plastic sleeves without any of the Eddie artwork. In spite of having the exact same music, the 7" versions didn't seem exciting at all to me.

In principle I could have just purchased all the paper posters which had most of the Iron Maiden artwork from the vinyl albums and 12" singles. But I found it was more exciting to find and collect the less common 12" singles versions and picture discs.

morriscroy

I strongly suspect a lot of current scifi/fantasy/horror and superhero titles fit into a similar framework.

For example if Marvel titles were just a blank cover + generic bluray disc, most likely nobody would care about buying it. (ie. Tumbling into dump bins within 6 months).

Jay G.

I dunno, I kinda wish there was an edition of Repo Man that just said "Movie" on it.

morriscroy

I know what you mean here.

This is the primary reason why I always purchased my own records (and later cds). I never taped off a friend's vinyl copy.

morriscroy

For that matter, when prerecorded VHS movies were finally inexpensive back in the day, I insisted on buying a factory sealed new copy for movies that I wanted to watch again.

(In principle it would have been easier to just get a rental copy and do a vhs->vhs machine dub).

Jay G.

Ohhh, look at Mr Fancypants with two VCRs!

morriscroy

Or the weird guys in the dorms, who had four vhs machines running all day.

Even more creepy were the guys who would order electronics which attempted to "scrub" the macrovision copy protection on some prerecorded vhs tapes in those days.

jjcool

Well that percentage is a bit disingenuous at best.

morriscroy

How many of these 4Kbluray players are actually being used to watch actual real 4Kbluray discs?

As opposed to these players being mostly used for stuff like Netflix streaming, youtube, etc ...

Adam Tyner

Why, because it doesn't include video game consoles? As for media, from that same source:

. . .

Considering that streaming apps are already built into most smart TVs, as well as other STBs, plug-and-play devices, video game consoles, etc., I'd imagine the number of people who buy a UHD BD player with no intention of playing UHD BDs approaches zero. It's possible that someone might start streaming through their smart TV, buy a UHD BD player, and not really play that many UHD BDs, but I would assume that those people would primarily stream the way they had before (TV, Roku, whatever) rather than switch to the UHD BD player as a primary source of streaming.

PerryD

I would think he's just complaining about the math

"1.4 million units in 2017, up 148% from 946,000 units "

1.4 million is up 48% from 946,000. (1.4M - 946k)/946k = 0.48.

1.4 million is 148% of 946,000