bluetoast

It has hit $10 at least, since the price is well over $10.

PhantomStranger

While I love Goodfellas, I am leery of buying a remastered edition when I know this will be one of Warner's earlier UHD movies. It also feels like a special edition that Costco will eventually carry down the road.

OldBoy

i saw half of this. looked great to me, but i don't really have a discerning eye and can tell like compression or ghosting or whatever. so take that how you will...

Josh Z

So, after all the consternation about an alleged contrast push, I haven't heard anything further since the disc was actually released. Another case of misleading and unreliable screencaps?

JZ1276

I watched it. The 'Vette definitely looks orange-ish.

Shannon Nutt

I win!

popegregFKAgoblin23

I watched this over the weekend on a pro calibrated Panny Plasma and it looked red enough to me. The Craftsman tool box in the same scene looked to be exactly the right shade of red.

So, IMHO, this release looked good, certainly much better than the old BD.

Doctorossi

There is no "right shade", anyway. It's not necessarily supposed to appear exactly the same tone as the real-world item; it's a piece of art that uses photographic exposure and color-timing to tell a story, not an encyclopedia entry.

Shannon Nutt

There IS a right shade though...the shade that was used on the original theatrical distribution prints.

Josh Z

Which you have on hand to compare with?

orangerunner

As mentioned earlier in the thread:

I'm sure if you took all 2,000 35mm film prints of any movie and put them side-by-side you would find subtle colour variances among them. Were the release prints struck using Fuji film? Kodak film? AGFA film? Combination of all three? Each stock handles the colours differently. When you add in how a film is projected and the whole transfer process to video it makes it even more of a grey area.

Colour timing is an art, not a science. Color-timing, by its very nature, is a manipulation of the colours. There's no "perfect", there's just a person with human eyesight that has a final decision and says "Good enough..." in the editing room.

Drexl

BTW, is the scratch on the print still there?

Shannon Nutt

Of course not...but I'm assuming Warners had a print in their vault. We all know that car is supposed to be red. It can be bright red, it can be dull red, but it shouldn't be freakin' orange.

This apologizing for transfers that are obviously manipulating the original look of the film for a new aesthetic and then getting away with it by saying "director approved" or "scanned from the original negative", followed shortly by fans yelling "how do you know what it looked like 25 years ago?" is getting tiresome.

There's OBVIOUS manipulation going on in most of these new transfers, if only to make it look different from older transfers to make people think prior versions had things messed up.

Now, obviously, the new version of Goodfellas has improvement over the prior home video versions as far as detail and clarity, but the color palette isn't one of the improvements.

That's my stance, and I'm sticking to it.

popegregFKAgoblin23

Of course, you are correct on this point.

There may have been some changes made to the contrast, but this release is NOT some radical revised version.

Can we move on to the license plate controversy?

Josh Z

I'm with you when it comes to the countless tealified transfers of older movies we've gotten in recent years. However, I just don't think this is one of those cases. Scorsese is not known for being a revisionist. In fact, he has actively fought against that trend.

Prior video transfers for Goodfellas were messed up. It was obvious when the first Blu-ray was released in 2006 that it was a mediocre-to-poor effort. It never looked right, and can't be used as a reference.

JZ1276

The air line tickets are still blacked out btw

Solid Snake

hrmmmmmm?

Shannon Nutt

You're being sarcastic right? Please say yes.

JZ1276

I am...
I never understood why it was done though. Pretty sure it started with the first DVD release.

orangerunner

That goes back to the theatrical release probably because American Airlines did not approve the use of their logo.

slop101

Finally got it and watched it. Looks great to me! Not perfect, but fine for a 25 year old movie, and very film-like. It seems a bit dark, but not in a bad way, just more rich/saturated perhaps.

But what struck me initially (in a bad way), was it's stupid static menu. I mean, what kind of lazy bullshit is this? Blu-rays are capable of some really cool menus, and I'm not even expecting something flashy, but what WB did with the menu here, for an anniversary release of a classic movie no less, is pretty sad. Sure, I like being able to quickly choose menu options, but they don't need to be this lazy. I mean, I can create a better DVD menu from a freeware template - it's that bad!

Solid Snake

WB has been doing that for what? 2 years? Maybe 3? I hate it.

andicus

If it means quicker loading, I don't mind static menus, at all.

slop101

It was no quicker to load than most any other blu menu.

Solid Snake

The menu shouldn't mean fuck all to how it loads. What probably matters is all the goddamn ads you have to skip.