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Old 10-19-14, 10:36 PM
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Found a price breakdown here. But it's listed in Australian currency.

Hi Everyone,



There has been a fair bit of interest in the 'Early Adopter' program. This is a one off offer. After this is closed, the Trinnov will not be available for sale again until it's released through our dealer network next year.



SRP prices in Australia will then be in line with the rest of the world. The starting price for the Altitude32-88 without 3D codecs is 14,950 Euro ex VAT. Note - all prices in the USA, Europe, etc are excluding sales tax. In France the sales tax is 20%. In the USA it varies. In Australia it is illegal to quote ex GST for retail products.



14950/0.68 = $21,985 (value in Australian Dollars) + 5% import duty = $23,084 ex GST or $25,393 inc GST. The SRP in Australia will be $25,999 inc GST.



SRP prices are as follows:



Altitude32-88 - $25,999 incGST

Altitude32-816 - $30,999 inc GST

Altitude32-1624 $37,999 inc GST

Altitude32-1632 $42,999 inc GST



Additional cost of 3D Codecs $3,999 inc GST

Calibration MIC - $999 inc GST



I will be sending through the prices to all interested people today. Apart from cost saving for being part of the program, anyone involved will be receiving the 3D MIC free of charge, 1 year free updates free including a major update yet to be announced, the ability to upgrade to the any Altitude32 model at the same cost as the 'Early adopter' program for a period of 12 months. The cost of upgrade for one model to the next will always be the cost difference between the models, plus freight costs to our warehouse. ie I will giving anyone involved in this group buy special treatment.



If anyone else is interested, please contact me soon. Delivery is expected in November.



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I got a reply by one of the Trinnov reps and, although they recommend having it professionally installed and tuned, it can be easily used and fine tuned by the end user, given time to learn its features.

The HDMI board is swappable to make the unit fully HDMI 2.0 compliant.

I asked if I was correct in assuming that once DTS-UHD is unveiled, it would just be a matter of a firmware upgrade to add said functionality to the Altitude 32. He told me that "you have the idea about how the system will evolve. Updates are done over the internet: they are scheduled, then done remotely, without any customer action other then leaving the system on the network."

So, yeah, definitely want to get this given that it's a unit from which you can get many years of use.

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Pioneer just sent me an email claiming new ATMOS firmware is available for their higher end SC-89 receivers.
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Pioneer just sent me an email claiming new ATMOS firmware is available for their higher end SC-89 receivers.
Too bad Onkyo would never do that for their flagship 5010.
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The John Wick BD has an Atmos soundtrack.
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Originally Posted by mrhan
The John Wick BD has an Atmos soundtrack.
AVS Forum review that discusses both the True HD and Atmos mixes of the disc:

Originally Posted by Ralph Potts


Check out our review of this action thriller about an ex-hitman who comes out of retirement to track down the gangsters that took everything from him.


The Review at a Glance:
(max score: 5 )

Film:

Extras:

Audio/Video total rating:
( Max score: 100 )

92



Details:

Studio and Year: LionsGate - 2014
MPAA Rating: R
Feature running time: 101 minutes
Genre: Action/Thriller

Disc Format: BD-50
Encoding: AVC
Video Aspect: 2.40:1
Resolution: 1080p/24

Audio Format(s): English Dolby Atmos, Dolby TrueHD 7.1, Spanish Dolby Digital 5.1
Subtitles: English, English SDH, Spanish
Starring: Keanu Reeves, Willem Dafoe, Michael Nyqvist, Alfie Allen, Adrienne Palicki, Dean Winters, Ian McShane, John Leguizamo, Bridget Moynahan
Directed by: Chad Stahelski
Music by: Tyler Bates
Written by: Derek Kolstad
Region Code: A

Blu-ray Disc release Date: February 3, 2015


"Don’t set him off…!"


My Take:

When sadistic young thugs senselessly attack John Wick – a brilliantly lethal ex-assassin – they have no idea that they’ve just awakened the boogeyman. With New York City as his bullet-riddled playground, Wick embarks on a merciless rampage, hunting down his adversaries with the skill and ruthlessness that made him an underworld legend.

Keanu Reeves has managed to keep his career moving and for the most part in a positive direction. I like him and own many of his films, especially those in the action/thriller genre. I never thought of him as much of a leading man/tough guy until “Speed” although “Point Break” certainly was a precursor to that. I have to admit that the trailers for John Wick didn’t leave me impressed enough to take it in at the theater so I opted to wait for the opportunity to review it on Blu-ray.

I did hear positive things about it from a few that saw it however sitting down to watch I kept my expectations in check. My wife who is not a fan of the genre opted to watch with me so off we went. Let’s start with the obvious, any fan of the action genre should have no trouble predicting how a film like John Wick will play out, and I didn’t. The screenplay doesn’t dig very deep, providing a surface level storyline that ticks all the right boxes in support of the thematic plot points. It opens with the end and plays back the events leading up to that point before finishing with the closing.

Predictable? Yes it is. Fun to watch? You bet. John Wick may be formulaic in tone but there is a freshness to it that draws from its text which exudes a slick, stylish essence which at times has the feel of a graphic novel. With NY City serving as its backdrop the depiction of its underworld and over the top characterizations blended with the “boogeyman” urban legend appeal of John Wick works quite well.

The action, especially the fight choreography and attention to detail used in the gunfight exchanges, is top notch and engaging. The use of visual effects is kept to a minimum in favor of excellent stunt work which adds to the appeal. I like the direction which keeps focus on point without overemphasizing the elements of action/drama. There are probably one or two characters that could have been omitted and seemed frivolous. If I had one nit to pick with the script it’s the final exchange which almost seemed as though screenwriter Derek Kolstad tossed together because he couldn’t come up with anything better. It certainly wasn’t supported by the events that led up to it but it didn’t taint the film.

John Wick turned out to be better than expected and left the door open for more to come from a character who may have just breathed new life into the career of Keanu Reeves. Oh, my wife sat through it and commented that it “wasn’t bad” until the very end (not the sequence I referred to but just after) which she found “convenient”. Coming from her I would consider “wasn’t bad” high praise…



Parental Guide:

The rating is for strong bloody violence throughout, language, and brief drug use.


AUDIO/VIDEO - By The Numbers:
REFERENCE = 92-100/EXCELLENT = 83-91/GOOD = 74-82/AVERAGE = 65-73/BELOW AVERAGE = under 65

**My audio/video ratings are based upon a comparative made against other high definition media/blu-ray disc.**



Audio: 94
(Each rating is worth 4 points with a max of 5 per category)


  • Dynamics:
  • Low frequency effects:
  • Surround Sound presentation:
  • Clarity/Detail:
  • Dialogue Reproduction:
  • Low frequency extension * (non-rated element):


Video: 90
(Each rating is worth 4 points with a max of 5 per category)


  • Resolution/Clarity:
  • Black Level/Shadow Detail:
  • Color Reproduction:
  • Fleshtones:
  • Compression:


Dolby Atmos Rating: 86
(Each rating is worth 4 points with a max of 5 per category)


  • Level of immersion:
  • Soundstage integration:
  • Audio object placement:
  • Effectiveness:
  • Entertainment factor:

(For details on the new rating system for Dolby Atmos please refer to my article Dolby Atmos has come to AVS Forum Blu-ray Reviews)


John Wick comes to Blu-ray Disc from Lionsgate Home Entertainment featuring 1080p AVC encoded video that has an average bitrate of 35 Mbps and lossless Dolby Atmos/TrueHD 7.1 sound that has an average bitrate of 6.6 Mbps.

This film’s elements aren’t lent to overly vibrant colors and high gloss video quality. Images tend to lean toward darker chromatic elements and teal splashed grading that provide the look that the filmmakers strive for to drive the story’s elements. This is done to good effect. Shadow delineation is quite good and revealing of subtle details within dark backgrounds and low lighting sequences which gave those scenes better visual depth. Stable contrast and black levels allow scenes containing mixed content to appear dynamic with punchy dark highlights. Detail is rendered quite well with crisp textures and definitive resolution that brings forth subtle nuance within images onscreen. Colors are limited to darker tones with occasional splashes of vivid hues which stand out nicely against the film’s dark visual aesthetic.


The 7.1 Dolby TrueHD soundtrack doesn’t disappoint and sounds terrific. This is an active audio presentation that utilizes the entire system to create a theater like experience. Sound staging is quite good as both the front and rear channels are seamlessly integrated. Sound effects traverse the room during the large fight sequences. Dynamics are energy filled and impact felt with discerning articulation and clarity. This is an aggressive mix that makes regular use of the subwoofer to accentuate its potent dynamics. The result is that all points of contact seem to resonate with tactile low bass impact. The quality of the bass is first rate as it is fills the room with clean, hard hitting low frequency energy. Dialogue has refining presence with clear vocal character and excellent room penetration. This is an entertaining audio presentation that compliments the film while making for an excellent home theater experience.


In listening to the Dolby Atmos surround mix I found it to be of the less aggressive variety especially during the film’s first two acts. Its use of audio objects placed above is limited to atmospherics such as falling rain and musical enhancement. This is done to very good effect and creates a tangible level of immersion that coincides with the onscreen events nicely. During the third act the use of discrete placed objects is ramped up during the action as a chase sequence places you inside the colliding vehicles. There is a helicopter flyover, flying glass and whizzing bullets that pan the soundstage both above and at ear level that sound great. While this mix doesn’t make constant use of discretely placed audio objects from above, I enjoyed the effectiveness of the added dimension during the early parts of the film and thought that overall it made for a solid Dolby Atmos presentation.



Bonus Features:
  • (HD) Don’t F*#% with John Wick – 15 minute featurette
  • (HD) Calling in the cavalry – 12 minute featurette
  • (HD) Destiny of a collective – 6 minute featurette
  • (HD) Assassin’s Code – 5 minute featurette
  • (HD) Red Circle – 6 minute featurette
  • (HD) NYC Noir – 6 minute featurette
  • * Exclusive *Filmmaker Audio Commentary
  • Bonus DVD
  • Digital HD Copy




Final Thoughts:

John Wick doesn’t reinvent the genre wheel but capitalizes on the entertainment factor with an entertaining blend of stylized action and well executed production elements that give it a fresh appeal. It comes to Blu-ray from Lionsgate Home Entertainment featuring excellent high definition video quality and rewarding lossless surround sound that includes a Dolby Atmos mix and 7.1 TrueHD core that compliments the film’s elements quite nicely. Add its decent supplemental package and John Wick deserves serious consideration for a place in your Blu-ray collection. Pass the popcorn!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AUmvWm5ZDQ



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So does anyone here have an Atmos receiver? How do you like it?

I'm thinking of biting the bullet on the Onkyo TX-NR636 to replace my dying TX-SR606. I know this one is on the LOW end... only 7.2... etc. etc. but I only have 5.1 speakers right now anyway, and there's no way I'll be going to 11.2 anytime soon.

The 636 is on sale at Best Buy Canada, and I've got some gift cards to use up, so it won't cost me a ton. My 606 is just giving me too much hassle right now, and I'm not sure I can justify paying more than $600 CAD after tax.
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Originally Posted by Dan
So does anyone here have an Atmos receiver? How do you like it?

I'm thinking of biting the bullet on the Onkyo TX-NR636 to replace my dying TX-SR606. I know this one is on the LOW end... only 7.2... etc. etc. but I only have 5.1 speakers right now anyway, and there's no way I'll be going to 11.2 anytime soon.
I find that the best Atmos experience comes from having four height channels. Whether that's 5.1.4 or the full 7.1.4 is up to what you can afford and what your room can support, but I would plan on getting a receiver that can decode four heights. Adding just two front height channels doesn't make much of a difference on their own, but when you can get sounds that traverse the top of the room from front to back, it's pretty cool.

Given that there's so little native Atmos content available yet (and that most of the Atmos discs released are crappy movies), you'll get much more use out of the Dolby Surround Upmixer feature. I am continually amazed at how accurately it detects sounds that belong up high (like planes and helicopters) and moves them to the appropriate channels. I was watching Wreck-It Ralph the other night, and DSU even correctly identified that fireworks belong in the heights.
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Re: The first Dolby Atmos encoded bluray is ...

What is Dolby Surround Upmixer? Is that a Dolby feature in newer receivers?
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Originally Posted by mattysemo247
What is Dolby Surround Upmixer? Is that a Dolby feature in newer receivers?
Yes, the Dolby Surround Upmixer replaces ProLogic IIx (or ProLogic IIz) in newer receivers that are Atmos capable. It will take any stereo, 5.1 or 7.1 source and upmix it to however many speakers you have.
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Originally Posted by Josh Z
I find that the best Atmos experience comes from having four height channels. Whether that's 5.1.4 or the full 7.1.4 is up to what you can afford and what your room can support, but I would plan on getting a receiver that can decode four heights. Adding just two front height channels doesn't make much of a difference on their own, but when you can get sounds that traverse the top of the room from front to back, it's pretty cool.

Given that there's so little native Atmos content available yet (and that most of the Atmos discs released are crappy movies), you'll get much more use out of the Dolby Surround Upmixer feature. I am continually amazed at how accurately it detects sounds that belong up high (like planes and helicopters) and moves them to the appropriate channels. I was watching Wreck-It Ralph the other night, and DSU even correctly identified that fireworks belong in the heights.
What receiver or pre-pro do you have?
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What receiver or pre-pro do you have?
The Denon X5200W with an additional 2-channel external amp.
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The Denon X5200W with an additional 2-channel external amp.
Nice. I have a spare Behringer amp lying around (just need to have the power supply repaired/replaced) that I could use.
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Dammit, Josh.
I think I'll hold off and put the extra money to something better.

Question, though. Do you have ceiling-mounted speakers, or do you use the "upward pointing" speakers that some manufacturers have released? I don't think I can justify ceiling-mounted myself, but... we'll see.
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Dammit, Josh.
I think I'll hold off and put the extra money to something better.

Question, though. Do you have ceiling-mounted speakers, or do you use the "upward pointing" speakers that some manufacturers have released? I don't think I can justify ceiling-mounted myself, but... we'll see.
If I could afford it, I'd get the Altitude 32 by Trinnov Audio. It seems to have the most bells and whistles as well as being hardware and software upgradable. So it seems like it'd have the most longevity of any of the newer processors out there. However, the price is what makes my wallet sigh with disgust.
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Originally Posted by Dan
Question, though. Do you have ceiling-mounted speakers, or do you use the "upward pointing" speakers that some manufacturers have released? I don't think I can justify ceiling-mounted myself, but... we'll see.
http://www.highdefdigest.com/blog/do...eaker-upgrade/
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Perfect timing for that question, eh?
Thanks again.
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two new blurays from Warner Home Video with Atmos mixes:

Jupiter Ascending
American Sniper
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Sony has jumped onto the bluray Atmos bandwagon with

Coppola's Bram Stoker's Dracula streeting in October



All-New Blu-ray Bonus Features Include:

* 4K Restoration & Dolby Atmos soundtrack (Dolby TrueHD 7.1 compatible)*
* Reflections in Blood: Francis Ford Coppola and Bram Stoker’s Dracula
* Practical Magicians: A Collaboration Between Father and Son
* Rare 1993 Commentary with Francis Ford Coppola, Roman Coppola and Greg Cannom
* To experience Dolby Atmos at home, Dolby Atmos enabled AV receivers and additional speakers are required; however, Dolby Atmos soundtracks are fully backward compatible with traditional audio configurations and legacy home entertainment equipment

Also Featured:

* Deleted Scenes
* Audio Commentary & Film Introduction by Director Francis Ford Coppola
* 4 Legacy Featurettes

The acrylic “Clear Case” limited-edition collector’s packaging will only be available while supplies last.
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Nice. Now all we need is a release with all of the Criterion laserdisc extras, the Dracula laserdisc extras, and the extras from this set. I guess it's wishful thinking this new release will include the teaser and trailers. I loved the teaser for it.

So will this also be released in the new 4k UHD? I would think so.
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a Sony mixer let the cat out of the bag a month or two ago that he was involved with a few object based mixes (obviously Atmos) for upcoming bluray releases - I wonder what's coming out on blu and UHD.

"Vudu has already announced 'The Lego Movie', 'Edge of Tomorrow', 'Man of Steel', and 'Into The Storm' will all have Dolby Atmos tracks (via DD+)" (speculated Fall release)
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How does that work for those of us who already have those on Vudu? Will the new mixes be available on different digital copies we'll have to buy? Or will the new mix be added to the existing ones?
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Re: The first Dolby Atmos encoded bluray is ...

Originally Posted by Giles
Sony has jumped onto the bluray Atmos bandwagon with

Coppola's Bram Stoker's Dracula streeting in October



All-New Blu-ray Bonus Features Include:

* 4K Restoration & Dolby Atmos soundtrack (Dolby TrueHD 7.1 compatible)*
* Reflections in Blood: Francis Ford Coppola and Bram Stoker’s Dracula
* Practical Magicians: A Collaboration Between Father and Son
* Rare 1993 Commentary with Francis Ford Coppola, Roman Coppola and Greg Cannom
* To experience Dolby Atmos at home, Dolby Atmos enabled AV receivers and additional speakers are required; however, Dolby Atmos soundtracks are fully backward compatible with traditional audio configurations and legacy home entertainment equipment

Also Featured:

* Deleted Scenes
* Audio Commentary & Film Introduction by Director Francis Ford Coppola
* 4 Legacy Featurettes

The acrylic “Clear Case” limited-edition collector’s packaging will only be available while supplies last.
I wonder if they'll finally fix the color timing issues or make them worse.
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Originally Posted by RocShemp
I wonder if they'll finally fix the color timing issues or make them worse.
pick your choice

Criterion LD, 97 DVD, Superbit DVD and Blu ray


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Re: The first Dolby Atmos encoded bluray is ...

The Superbit DVD's presentation has always been my reference version for Bram Stoker's Dracula. That is the closest I have seen it look to what I saw in theaters. I am fairly sure we will be able to bury the old Sony BD at the bottom of a lake when the new 4K BD comes out.


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