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Old 06-25-14, 07:29 PM   #26
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More generally.

With the exception of Warner/HBO (and maybe Paramount to a lesser extent), it seems like everybody else has already hit the "we don't care anymore" phase when it comes to tv on bluray.
The sale numbers on Blu-ray television sets were always iffy and studios see streaming as a viable replacement for those diehards that need to watch a show in HD after it has broadcast.

Almost all disposable television content will be migrated towards streaming and digital purchases in the future.
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Old 06-26-14, 03:34 AM   #27
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I am hugely disappointed that Louie Season 3 is MOD only. I would be fine with the stupid BD/DVD combo thing the did for Season 1 at this point.

Now I see they are doing the same with Bob's Burgers Season 3 and the discs contain FOX ads before and after every episode?
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Old 06-26-14, 06:40 AM   #28
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Now I see they are doing the same with Bob's Burgers Season 3 and the discs contain FOX ads before and after every episode?
I was just looking at the reviews, all of the complaints about the commercials are about the digital download versions, not the DVD.
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Old 06-26-14, 10:47 PM   #29
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Yes, Bob's Burgers, Last Man Standing, The Glades and The Killing are all MOD releases now, and American Dad is going to be, too.
Ugh, I had a feeling American Dad would be next. MODs is where I draw the line.
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Old 06-26-14, 11:22 PM   #30
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With the move to MOD I'm buying less and less on home video. For those of us that have consistently purchased these FX titles on Blu-ray this is an even bigger insult to go from Blu-ray to MOD. I have every season of Archer, The League, and Wilfred on Blu-ray. Why would I purchase remaining seasons on DVD? Not only is it a decrease in the audio/visual department, it's also just going to screw up my collection and organization.

I hate this move to streaming, but if they're going to force me to pay for a sub-standard product then I just won't buy it. Sorry Raising Hope, Bob's Burgers, and American Dad but I can't justify it (especially when they cost as much and sometimes more than REAL DVDs!!!)
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Old 06-27-14, 01:31 AM   #31
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They realize that sales will practically vanish for shows that go MOD. I have all these shows on Blu-ray and will not purchase a MOD DVD-R set.
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Old 06-27-14, 02:39 AM   #32
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I was just looking at the reviews, all of the complaints about the commercials are about the digital download versions, not the DVD.
Ah gotcha. Stupid Amazon really needs to fix that.
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Old 06-27-14, 08:23 AM   #33
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I was just looking at the reviews, all of the complaints about the commercials are about the digital download versions, not the DVD.
Fox puts ads on their iTunes videos too, but short of a 16 second spot before an episode starts all of the commercials are relegated to the end.
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Old 06-27-14, 09:54 AM   #34
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They realize that sales will practically vanish for shows that go MOD. I have all these shows on Blu-ray and will not purchase a MOD DVD-R set.
There's been 8 shows so far that I used to buy that moved towards MoDs (Awkward, Cleveland Show, Raising Hope, Bob's Burgers, American Dad, The Killing, Happy Endings, Drop Dead Diva) and I haven't bought a single one of them. Not only are they terribly cheap releases, they never go down in price and do cost more than normal releases.

I really hope they don't look at the sale figures and think "See, I knew this wouldn't sell" because I can't be the only one reacting that way.
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Old 06-27-14, 01:44 PM   #35
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There's been 8 shows so far that I used to buy that moved towards MoDs (Awkward, Cleveland Show, Raising Hope, Bob's Burgers, American Dad, The Killing, Happy Endings, Drop Dead Diva) and I haven't bought a single one of them. Not only are they terribly cheap releases, they never go down in price and do cost more than normal releases.

I really hope they don't look at the sale figures and think "See, I knew this wouldn't sell" because I can't be the only one reacting that way.
The executives know most people have little interest in MOD sets and plan accordingly. It's a token gesture to keep the show available on home video.
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Old 06-27-14, 02:10 PM   #36
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Fox puts ads on their iTunes videos too, but short of a 16 second spot before an episode starts all of the commercials are relegated to the end.
They shouldn't put commercials on episodes you've paid for.
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They shouldn't put commercials on episodes you've paid for.
I completely agree.

I'm just glad they haven't started putting them in during the commercials breaks. I use video editing software to trim the fat but if they interjected them in throughout the episode I wouldn't be able to without chopping it up and then re-encoding it (which takes 100 times as long and wouldn't be worth the effort).
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Old 07-01-14, 05:14 PM   #38
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Always Sunny has really been hitting its stride the last few seasons (and last season was the show's best, IMO) so it should be no surprise that it looks like Fox is releasing it as DVD only in September.

http://tvshowsondvd.com/news/Sunny-P...Season-9/19990
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Old 07-03-14, 09:08 PM   #39
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Always Sunny has really been hitting its stride the last few seasons (and last season was the show's best, IMO) so it should be no surprise that it looks like Fox is releasing it as DVD only in September.

tvshowsondvd.com/news/Sunny-Philadelphia-Season-9/19990
Not just "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia".

There's been some rumblings about season 9 of Bones possibly being released also as dvd-only on September 16, 2014. (Seasons 4 to 8 of Bones were released on bluray).

tvshowsondvd.com/news/Bones-Season-9/20012


Wonder what's the next shoe to drop.
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Old 07-03-14, 09:17 PM   #40
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That sucks.

I really hope this doesn't affect The Simpsons or Archer.
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Old 07-03-14, 09:20 PM   #41
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How well do the next DVD-only seasons end up selling? I'd be pissed off if it happened with a series I was collecting- like in the laserdisc days when a favorite artist's video would get released on LD, then the next one only on VHS. I refused to bend over and buy the VHS just because that was my only choice.
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Old 07-03-14, 09:26 PM   #42
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There's been similar rumblings about the recent announcement of season 4 of the revived Hawaii Five-0. (ie. An official dvd announcement but with very little mentioned about a possible bluray version).
Here's the link for season 4 of Hawaii Five-0 possibly being dvd-only.

tvshowsondvd.com/news/Hawaii-Five-0-Season-4/19958


(Seasons 1 to 3 of the revived Hawaii Five-0 were released on bluray).
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Old 07-03-14, 10:27 PM   #43
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The League Season 5 does have a BD for pre-order. New Girl season 3 is DVD, 2 Broke Girls season 3 is DVD also (different network), and The Killing Season 3 was also DVD only.
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Old 07-04-14, 04:49 AM   #44
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How well do the next DVD-only seasons end up selling? I'd be pissed off if it happened with a series I was collecting- like in the laserdisc days when a favorite artist's video would get released on LD, then the next one only on VHS. I refused to bend over and buy the VHS just because that was my only choice.
Good question.

I would guess at minimum, some bluray buyers of previous seasons will drop out of the dvd numbers of subsequent dvd-only seasons, for reasons similar to Alan's scenario. Other bluray buyers may drop out due to subsequent seasons being lackluster/crap.

The unknown numbers at this point is how may blurays of previous seasons were actually sold. This would indicate how many potential "principled protesters" + "this subsequent season sucks" abstainers from the now-former bluray pool will be absent from the dvd-only numbers of subsequent seasons.

If the number of blurays sold of previous seasons was miniscule compared to the dvd version, then it probably doesn't matter much if most of the bluray customers never buy any subsequent dvd-only seasons. Such former bluray customers become a part of the "attrition" numbers.


The "attrition" numbers would include the people who:

- thought the subsequent season was lackluster/crap
- have money problems
- lost interest in the show
- no longer have any interest in buying the dvds
- etc ...

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Old 07-04-14, 06:15 AM   #45
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One can look further back in time, and see what other tv shows discontinued the bluray versions, and continued on with dvd-only releases for subsequent seasons. (North America releases).


Discontinued after one season released on bluray

- Damages
- 2 Broke Girls
- Grey's Anatomy
- White Collar
- Lie To Me
- Scrubs
- How I Met Your Mother
- Rescue Me
- NCIS: Los Angeles
- Burn Notice
- Nip Tuck
- The Killing
- Stargate Universe
- Flashpoint
- etc ...

Discontinued after two seasons released on bluray

- CSI
- Rookie Blue
- Louie
- Wilfred

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Old 07-04-14, 06:55 AM   #46
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To keep track of this, here's a partial "wall of shame" list so far of recent rumblings about blurays being possibly discontinued in favor of dvd-only for subsequent seasons.


dvd-only already released

- Wilfred (season 3)
- Louie (season 3)


dvd version officially announced, but not much mentioned officially about bluray version

- It's Sunny In Philadelphia (season 9)
- Bones (season 9)
- The League (season 5)
- revived Hawaii Five-0 (season 4)


(For that matter, other upcoming Fox releases).

no official announcement yet of dvd and/or bluray

- Modern Family (season 5)
- Glee (season 5)
- 24: Live Another Day
- American Horror Story (season 3)

(Of these four). If I had to guess, 24 and AHS would probably be released on bluray. Dunno about Glee and Modern Family, with Fox on its recent rampage.
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24 Live Another Day is getting a Blu Ray release. It was already announced and an Amazon pre-order is available.

This thread probably needs an updated title now like....TV shows ditched on Blu-Ray after poor sales or something along those lines.
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24 Live Another Day is getting a Blu Ray release. It was already announced and an Amazon pre-order is available.
So far only the UK bluray version has an actual release date (Oct 6, 2014).


For that matter, the UK bluray version of AHS season 3 has an actual release date of October 20, 2014.


I tend not to trust amazon pre-order listings until there's an actual official release date.
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Old 07-04-14, 07:56 AM   #49
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For that matter, looking further through the UK amazon listings, there's no official release dates for possible bluray versions of the above listed season sets, other than 24 and AHS.
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Here's The League season 5 on Blu for pre-order.


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...&tag=cheblo-20
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