Star Trek Into Darkness Preorder Up (Fall 2013)
#101
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Re: Star Trek Into Darkness Preorder Up (Fall 2013)
While I agree that splitting up the bonus features to a host of retailer exclusives is a major dick move on Paramount's part, let's try to keep perspective. All of these featurettes are probably going to be crappy EPK "OMG, we all had the best time working together!" fluff anyway. The commentary that's been foisted off to iTunes is the only feature of any significance that I would actually miss.
If you could get past your hate-on for Bill Hunt, you'd see the bigger point: *In spite of* the fact that he got a review copy, he's still saying not to buy the product. How many other reviewers would tap-dance around such an issue so as to keep the free product coming? He just put a bullseye on his back as far as Paramount is concerned.
Very nice.
except of course for the commentary: http://www.amazon.de/Star-Trek-Into-...+into+darkness
It is region free. Not sure if I feel like dealing with importing, though.
I come from originaltrilogy.com. I assure you, he is not so popular there.
Me? I'm still waiting for an official announcement of Twin Peaks and X-Files he promised "soon".
The Bd comes with an iTunrs digital copy. So you can listen to the commentary....
and make your own adventures. Fuck you Paramount. Good thing I hate, loathe and despise the film so I had no intention of buying it. Still sucks for fans of it though.
Last edited by hanshotfirst1138; 08-29-13 at 02:02 PM.
#102
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Re: Star Trek Into Darkness Preorder Up (Fall 2013)
And apparently this German version includes all of the non-commentary extras AND the 3D disc has the shifting aspect ratios found in IMAX: http://www.amazon.de/Star-Trek-Into-.../dp/B00CXLSWMM
The US version keeps a consistent aspect ratio.
The US version keeps a consistent aspect ratio.
It would help if the studio's PR department would clarify some of these release details.
#103
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Re: Star Trek Into Darkness Preorder Up (Fall 2013)
Yes, he posts a lot of rumors, and the nature of rumors is that they can change, be delayed, or sometimes turn out to be wrong. How often has he ever outright said something was happening and then it didn't? He may be passing on gossip, but I don't think he's ever tried to qualify it as anything other than that.
#104
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Re: Star Trek Into Darkness Preorder Up (Fall 2013)
If this is true, then Paramount had to strike two transfers for the film, one with a constant ratio and one with a shifting ratio. This will probably wind up being like their release of Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen, where the shifting ratio version was released as a retailer exclusive (Walmart in that case). We just have to figure out which retailer got it. I can't believe that it would only show up in Germany.
It would help if the studio's PR department would clarify some of these release details.
It would help if the studio's PR department would clarify some of these release details.
#105
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Re: Star Trek Into Darkness Preorder Up (Fall 2013)
Is it possible that all copies of the 3D edition have shifting ratios, while all copies of the 2D are flat 2.40:1?
#106
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Re: Star Trek Into Darkness Preorder Up (Fall 2013)
Bill Hunt? He's been running that website since the early days of DVD. He's gotta have some kind of audience and he apparently knows a lot folks in the industry.
Yes, he posts a lot of rumors, and the nature of rumors is that they can change, be delayed, or sometimes turn out to be wrong. How often has he ever outright said something was happening and then it didn't? He may be passing on gossip, but I don't think he's ever tried to qualify it as anything other than that.
Yes, he posts a lot of rumors, and the nature of rumors is that they can change, be delayed, or sometimes turn out to be wrong. How often has he ever outright said something was happening and then it didn't? He may be passing on gossip, but I don't think he's ever tried to qualify it as anything other than that.
#108
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Re: Star Trek Into Darkness Preorder Up (Fall 2013)
However, there are ways (which I won't mention here) to circumvent that annoyance so you can slap it on a flash drive and watch it on whatever you want. The .m4v file format that Apple uses is just a poor man's .mp4 container, so it's just the metadata Apple puts in all of its releases that prevent you from being able to watch it on something else.
It's a shame if you're not tech savvy because they have some good looking movies in HD that aren't available on Blu-ray.
Oh, and I'm not surprised Paramount is releasing STID like this. They have what might be the largest fanbase of any intellectual property at their disposal and they're counting on fans to buy it multiple times. It's been like this in regards to content for awhile now, but the dumbest thing to me is the commentary as an iTunes exclusive. Luckily, they're including the digital copy on all purchases of the movie regardless of which B&M exclusive you purchase.
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I'm not surprised by any of this from Paramount. All the way back to the glory days of DVD, the only special feature they would include on their first run catalog releases was the theatrical trailer. That's it. Finito. (However, they would include menus and chapter selection as "special features" as well). And they would charge around $29.99 MSRP for these while much savvier studios were releasing films jam-packed with extras (at a lower price) and earning customer loyalty.
Last edited by PatD; 08-29-13 at 10:14 PM.
#112
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Re: Star Trek Into Darkness Preorder Up (Fall 2013)
I'm not surprised by any of this from Paramount. All the way back to the glory days of DVD, the only special feature they would include on their first run catalog releases was the theatrical trailer. That's it. Finito. (However, they would include menus and chapter selection as "special features" as well). And they would charge around $29.99 MSRP for these while much savvier studios were releasing films jam-packed with extras (at a lower price) and earning customer loyalty.
After their 2 disc SE's of the movies, and the way they're doing the TV series on Bluray, one might think they had learned better, but somebody must have seen an opportunity to try to make a little more money, and they're just going to kill the goose that laid the golden egg.
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Re: Star Trek Into Darkness Preorder Up (Fall 2013)
I think you can even go back to the Laserdisc days for Paramount. Josh will correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm fairly sure Paramount never did any kind of special edition on LD. Even their Trek releases were barebones; they'd occasionally do boxsets but they'd just stick the movies in a box and call it a day.
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#114
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Re: Star Trek Into Darkness Preorder Up (Fall 2013)
I know that Howard Stern wanted to do a DVD special edition of Private Parts but Paramount shot him down and released it barebones.
#115
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I've been racking my brain to think of any deluxe Laserdiscs Paramount may have released. I thought I was onto something with My Fair Lady, but apparently that movie was with Fox at the time.
Paramount released three titles under the "Director's Series" label: Star Trek IV, Fatal Attraction and Paper Moon. Star Trek IV's only supplement was a 10-minute video interview with Leonard Nimoy that was programmed at the beginning of the disc, and since the disc had no chapter stops, you had to fast-forward through it every time you wanted to watch the movie. The non-Director's Series copy was greatly preferred.
Fatal Attraction also had a director's interview and an alternate ending. Paper Moon had a commentary.
So, yeah, they weren't much into bonus features on LD.
Last edited by Josh Z; 08-30-13 at 10:59 AM.
#116
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Re: Star Trek Into Darkness Preorder Up (Fall 2013)
However, there are ways (which I won't mention here) to circumvent that annoyance so you can slap it on a flash drive and watch it on whatever you want.
The .m4v file format that Apple uses is just a poor man's .mp4 container, so it's just the metadata Apple puts in all of its releases that prevent you from being able to watch it on something else.
It's a shame if you're not tech savvy because they have some good looking movies in HD that aren't available on Blu-ray.
Oh, and I'm not surprised Paramount is releasing STID like this. They have what might be the largest fanbase of any intellectual property at their disposal and they're counting on fans to buy it multiple times. It's been like this in regards to content for awhile now, but the dumbest thing to me is the commentary as an iTunes exclusive.
Luckily, they're including the digital copy on all purchases of the movie regardless of which B&M exclusive you purchase.
Probably not enough to send a message about this though. The only thing that'd send a message about this is lots and lots of money, and fans don't have the sway.
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#118
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Re: Star Trek Into Darkness Preorder Up (Fall 2013)
Cancelled my Amazon pre-order. This release is a mess. I might just go for the Target exclusive.
I'm not Xage who will be all versions of the same movie, but will leave them sealed.
I'm not Xage who will be all versions of the same movie, but will leave them sealed.
#119
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Re: Star Trek Into Darkness Preorder Up (Fall 2013)
While I agree that splitting up the bonus features to a host of retailer exclusives is a major dick move on Paramount's part, let's try to keep perspective. All of these featurettes are probably going to be crappy EPK "OMG, we all had the best time working together!" fluff anyway. The commentary that's been foisted off to iTunes is the only feature of any significance that I would actually miss.
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No actually it was about the improved picture quality over VHS. Supplements were a bonus that evolved from the Criterion Collection during the late '80s.
In the early '90s studios like Fox and Disney started spending money on elaborate collector's editions. WB, Sony, Lionsgate and Universal joined in around 1994... Paramount, outside of their Director's series didn't try at all.
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In the early '90s studios like Fox and Disney started spending money on elaborate collector's editions. WB, Sony, Lionsgate and Universal joined in around 1994... Paramount, outside of their Director's series didn't try at all.
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#122
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Despite the fact I would want almost all the special features for this release (as I watched everything from the first one), I will take the same decision path I used for GI Joe ... and then buy only 1 version... Hope being in the long run to catch the other version on the cheap to snag the other I want... for this one.. It is down to Best Buy or Target ... and leaning towards Target to get the 3D along with the Bonus Disc/Features... which btw.. is who won for GI Joe also.. (I did hesitate on Oblivion and ended up getting no version and the BB version is out of stock or ridiculous price now)..
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#125
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now that I think about it.. it was the GI Joe version that was $14.99 release week with U&S but went to $34.99 the following week.. so yep.. Oblivion isn't that over the top.. ha...
now back to Into Darkness.. this article (copied from post #70 of this thread - thanks hanshotfirst113) ... clearly states there are about 6 versions of this release.. and that the Best Buy features are only Digital on CinemaNow in the US (never mind that their exclusives are not on the 3D version either).. yet are on a Disc in Canada ... so for me thus far Target wins... and I will have to try to get my hands on the BB Canada disc... for cheap, of course..