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Old 07-23-11, 09:36 AM
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Blockbuster 'selling' new movies accounts for very little.
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Iron, as of the end of Q2, BD only increased 10%. Not the 20-50 you wrote.
True, the percentage compared to DVD/Blu-Ray Total only increased by 10%.

But, the Total Sales of Blu-Ray increase (depending on the week and "Big Action") 20-50%. This past week (July 9th) the Blu-Ray total increase was 22.9%. If you look at June 4th's totals, it is an increase of 39.1% for the BR Titles.
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Originally Posted by Iron_Giant
True, the percentage compared to DVD/Blu-Ray Total only increased by 10%.

But, the Total Sales of Blu-Ray increase (depending on the week and "Big Action") 20-50%. This past week (July 9th) the Blu-Ray total increase was 22.9%. If you look at June 4th's totals, it is an increase of 39.1% for the BR Titles.
Week to week mean nothing. Its YoY. And so far, it's been only 10%. That's Blu-ray 2010 vs 2011. Nothing to do with DVD. Blu-ray only.

That's with double the catalog releases, 10+ million more BD players in homes etc.
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Originally Posted by Iron_Giant
But, man DVD sales numbers are really falling and they had a long ways to fall over the past 3 years.
That's the thing, DVD sales are getting hammered - yet still account for roughly 80% of disc sales every week. And with total disc sales (DVD and BD) continuing to drop YOY, it's apparent BD is doing nothing to pick up the slack left by DVDs major decline.

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Originally Posted by GizmoDVD
Blockbuster 'selling' new movies accounts for very little.
Not sales, rental copies.

If the copies sold to rental outlets like Blockbuster and Hollywood Video are included in these numbers, then they probably made a fairly significant chunk of the sales figures in the past.
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Originally Posted by Josh-da-man
Not sales, rental copies.

If the copies sold to rental outlets like Blockbuster and Hollywood Video are included in these numbers, then they probably made a fairly significant chunk of the sales figures in the past.
The major rental chains such as Blockbuster would buy 50-60 copies of any big new release.

Just the fact that video stores in general have shut down all across the country would surely put a big dent in the DVD and Blu-ray sales.

The plunge in physical media sales (DVD and Blu-ray combined) isn't just a blip in the market that will recover one day. Week to week it may go up and down marginally but in the big picture it will go nowhere but down.
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Originally Posted by orangerunner
The major rental chains such as Blockbuster would buy 50-60 copies of any big new release.

Just the fact that video stores in general have shut down all across the country would surely put a big dent in the DVD and Blu-ray sales.

The plunge in physical media sales (DVD and Blu-ray combined) isn't just a blip in the market that will recover one day. Week to week it may go up and down marginally but in the big picture it will go nowhere but down.
Great points guys, Blockbuster and other rental going out of business is a huge hit on the DVD/BR market - and used market.

DVD sales are taking an even bigger hit over the past few months with no bottom in site.

BR is selling better on new big action movies and some old catalog titles (Harry Potter, LotR set, Spiderman Trilogy when it was on $19.99 sale, Back to the Future on sale at Target for $14.99...).

New Movies:
Action - 24% to 50% BR
Animated - 24% to 50% BR
Everything else - 11% to 37% BR


Two numbers to look at:

Total $Dollar$ Revenue for BR compared to DVD - BR is running well above the 20% for the year 2011

Total number of Disks sold - BR is running only in the 10% range
-DVD is selling a TON of $3.99 to $7.99 movies
-BR has some great deals out there, but not at the prices of DVD
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Originally Posted by Iron_Giant

-DVD is selling a TON of $3.99 to $7.99 movies
-BR has some great deals out there, but not at the prices of DVD
Maybe the new $7.99 BD bin I saw at BB today will help out some...
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Maybe the new $7.99 BD bin I saw at BB today will help out some...
Warner & Lion's Gate seem to be the most aggessive, price-wise. Titles like True Romance, Eraser, Lethal Weapon 1 & 2, Collateral Damage, Superman, Troy, The Fugitive from Warner are $4.99 at Best Buy and T2/Total Recall, Rambo/First Blood, Johnny Handsome/Angel Heart, House of 1000 Corpses/Devil's Rejects have all been priced at $9.99 for the two packs.

The price is right for a lot of titles but so far the inclination on the part of the consumer to buy more physical media just isn't there like it was with DVD.
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Originally Posted by orangerunner
Warner & Lion's Gate seem to be the most aggessive, price-wise. Titles like True Romance, Eraser, Lethal Weapon 1 & 2, Collateral Damage, Superman, Troy, The Fugitive from Warner are $4.99 at Best Buy and T2/Total Recall, Rambo/First Blood, Johnny Handsome/Angel Heart, House of 1000 Corpses/Devil's Rejects have all been priced at $9.99 for the two packs.

The price is right for a lot of titles but so far the inclination on the part of the consumer to buy more physical media just isn't there like it was with DVD.
Nice prices at BB, I am going to go over and pick up Fugitive, Superman and Eraser.

Thanks.
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There's no getting around the steep decline for DVDsfrom Deadline.com)

Report: Plummeting Disc Sales Depress Home Video Business in 1H 2011.

At this time last year disc sales were off 7.1% vs. 2009. DVDs are the culprit: Although DEG only reports figures for "packaged goods," it notes that Blu-ray sales are up more than 10%.

http://www.deadline.com/2011/08/repo...1/#more-154279
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There's no way DVD revenue can keep pace with Blu-ray. Most of the DVD sales are the bargain titles. Release day disc sales are down overall and the DVD price drops are faster and more pronounced than Blu
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There's no getting around the steep decline for DVDsfrom Deadline.com)

Report: Plummeting Disc Sales Depress Home Video Business in 1H 2011.

At this time last year disc sales were off 7.1% vs. 2009. DVDs are the culprit: Although DEG only reports figures for "packaged goods," it notes that Blu-ray sales are up more than 10%.

http://www.deadline.com/2011/08/repo...1/#more-154279
Aka... 10-10.50%. Not so good news...
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Originally Posted by jackson walker
There's no getting around the steep decline for DVDsfrom Deadline.com)

Report: Plummeting Disc Sales Depress Home Video Business in 1H 2011.

At this time last year disc sales were off 7.1% vs. 2009. DVDs are the culprit: Although DEG only reports figures for "packaged goods," it notes that Blu-ray sales are up more than 10%.

http://www.deadline.com/2011/08/repo...1/#more-154279
I am not crying one bit for "Hollywood".

Starz is getting $200-300 Million from Netflix and other studios are (some now and ton more in the future) pulling in a chunk of change from the VOD business.

All these are hitting now and when factored into the equation, Hollywood is doing pretty well.

True DVD dollars are way down and continue to go down.

But, with BR up and VOD up, the movie/entertainment industry is doing pretty well through this recession.


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I am still watching to see if this will be the 1st year in a long time (10 years?) where a DVD will not pass the $100 million mark in a calendar year? Tangled has the best shot, it only needs $6 million over the next 5 months.

I am sure all the big action movies that come out in the Nov/Dec time slot will sell a ton of BR, but I do not think they will surpass DVD $100 million like the movies have done in the past Holiday Seasons.

Just another negative milestone DVD will pass on it's way to resting place and being replaced full time by BR.
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Originally Posted by Iron_Giant


Just another negative milestone DVD will pass on it's way to resting place and being replaced full time by BR.
You are dreaming...Blu is not going to replace DVD's full time. At least not anytime in the near future. And yes I have read this full thread and I am getting tired of your ridiculous predictions/statements on when blu is going to take over for good. I have both. True I don't buy many DVD's anymore but I don't buy many blu's either. There is room for both. Both will remain for some time deal with it. There still is millions in DVD revenue each month and no one wants to see that go away when it won't be replaced by blu revenue.

Better yet go to your boss tomorrow and tell him you want to phase out a product line that brings 90 million in revenue in each month. Then tell him you are going to replace it with something about only a third of the population have and it will take years and possibly never make up the revenue that the other product line had. See what his response will be.

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1st website I have seen with Blu-Ray Sales stats numbers:
http://www.the-numbers.com/weekly-bluray-sales-chart

DVD Sales stats on the same website:
http://www.the-numbers.com/dvd/chart...y/thisweek.php
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