chanster

Its not a meme. Its a straw man argument advanced by people who want to stifle legitimate criticism by throwing out false derogatory comments about the people making them.

Travis McClain

It would have been a stronger set-up, yes. I was thisclose to adding it when I quoted you, but that seemed wrong to do. In any event, the narrative I've always heard--and I freely admit I haven't really researched it particularly thoroughly--is that he raised their daughters himself when she left him.

The funny thing is, we all know that we would place our families ahead of anything else in life but for some reason when it comes to celebrities who make entertainment we enjoy, we expect them to disregard our values and just keep churning out product to kill our boredom. When was the last time you heard someone get mad that the video rental store clerk had taken time off work to be with his family? It doesn't happen, because we all empathize with the clerk. The guy who makes movies, though, should just keep making movies. It's pretty bizarre when you think about it. Sure, some film-makers keep churning out content throughout such turbulence, but does that mean that everyone can, or should?

Travis McClain

I readily concede that there are legitimate gripes for fans to have, and that many express them reasonably. But surely you must similarly recognize that the most vocal of the dissenting fans are prone to the kind of hyperbole demonstrated in the YouTube clip I shared? That segment of the fans is very much real.

chanster

So what if there are people out there on the Internet? There are people on both sides that are extreme (although I would dare say that the "Lucas revisionsists" far outnumber the "OOT extremeists), there are people out there comparing persecution of Lucas to persecution ofJews in Nazi Germany. All of it is stupid.

What is stupider though are the people that come on this board and attempt to bash generally thoughtful criticisms and reasons why the original OT on Blu Ray (heck even a decent release on DVD would be OK with me and probably a lot of people) should be released with comments like "lucas raped my childhood" Its a false flag.

chanster

And actually that Youtube video is funny, and if you can't see the humor evident in it, well I can't really help you.

mzupeman2

'Can'tpleaseeveryone-itis' much?

yoshimi

I hate the special editions and will never buy them. That said it doesn't keep me up at night and I am able to function in society and do basic life things. I would prefer the originals be released and by taking 15 seconds to post in a thread about Star Wars does not make me crazy. Now if I was posting dressed in a Chewbacca costume then yes lock me up.

Matt

"Lucas and his media interviews seems to give the strong impression that Amanda was raised by him alone--Marcia remarked to me that the 60 Minutes interviews and whatnot portray him as "Mr. Mom," without any mention of Marcia. While this may be true with his other two children, such is not the case with Amanda. "I might have left George," Marcia wrote to me, "but I never left Amanda!" She had a 50% time share of her daughter, and raised her with George, even though they were divorced. Marcia wrote to me that she has been actively "involved in every aspect of her life. She has become an amazing, wonderful, really good human being." Marcia legally kept the last name Lucas so that her daughter would have parents with the same last name."

The Secret History of Star Wars: In Tribute to Marcia Lucas

The Valeyard

I'm a fucker over 40 who loves watching Clone Wars but hates everything Lucas has done to the Original Trilogy. I have no intention of buying the Blu-Ray release (no matter what his daughter thinks) but will happily pick up the Clone War Blu-Rays when they drop to a reasonable price. Clone Wars is the best thing to happen to Star Wars since Star Wars: Rogue Squadron (I played that game to death!).

My kids however think that Clone Wars is just one of "dad's things that we have to deal with." They've all been through a Star Wars phase but it's passed them by a long time ago.

Artman

Thanks for the link, I read it this morning, fascinating and a little depressing. I don't have any doubt that's probably how it played out. As a creative type, I can relate to Lucas' side of things.... work is my hobby and I don't have anything else really outside of that. It never stops really. Whenever I'm asked "what do you do for fun" I don't really a have an answer, other than things related to work. Hate that question...

Travis McClain

Thanks for that. It doesn't surprise me that things have been distorted, and frankly it's none of my business who did what for their kids anyway. It's interesting that Marcia only made the point of being involved with the one girl, though. Was that the one they adopted?

EDIT: I'm clear now on the fact that Amanda (who was, in fact, adopted), was the only child they shared. Ergo, there was no reasonable obligation for her to be any more involved than she was.

I dunno...the Lego Star Wars video games were a lot of fun. But, yeah, they've done a great job with The Clone Wars.

So much of what's been released for this generation of kids has actually been retreads of stuff we grew up with: Star Wars, Transformers, G.I. Joe, now even ThunderCats are back. I wonder: will they later have second-generation nostalgia for these incarnations? Outside of these incarnations of our generation's entertainment, all they've really got are the Harry Potter series and the anime stuff. Though, if it's any consolation to this generation, I actually think a lot of their versions of our stuff are better than the ones we had.

lordzeppelin

I love ignoring a thread for a full month, and clicking in to find the exact same bitch-fest still going on.

RD1973

Great article, but ends very strangely: Marcia Lucas' whereabouts are unknown?!

Breather

Agreed. That is quite odd to see the heroes of the OT just shoved up in the corner of the picture.

A small-scale Luke Skywalker, the center of the OT, is pushed into the upper right corner like some kind of afterthought or minor character.

Jay G.

I don't think the article is insinuating that she's missing, but that she's no longer in the public arena, so information on her is hard to come by. Everyone knows where George Lucas lives; only Marcia Lucas's friends and family know where she lives.

LosingMyMind

IV-VI have leaked online, so it should be just a matter of hours before we have a full breakdown of any changes that might have been made.

MBoyd

Great looking forward to hearing about that Easter egg

Nick Martin

I just want to know if the most obviously stupid changes were kept intact like the Vader/shuttle return scene. I've not seen or heard anything about these leaking anywhere at all, but it wouldn't surprise considering how often these things happen.

Rob V

Holy shit, you named your kids Plo Kloon and IG-88?

And as a huge SW fan, I agree with you... they're just movies and I did see the original in a theater.

Double_Oh_7

How do we know you weren't dressed in a Chewbacca costume??

nodeerforamonth

Yeah, you didn't miss anything. Star Wars "fans" are like Madden video game football "fans". They'll bitch about anything.

Jason

And yet, every year when a new one is released...

JayDerek

exactly...people rarely put their money where their mouth is.

I'm actually getting more pumped for this release!!

Preterite

Just as with the DVD's, we'll see the untampered OT available on blu-ray about six months before it gets replaced by the next gen format.

As I hate the prequels there's no reason for me to buy this set. And I'm perfectly fine with that. I have the original versions on DVD, and while not anamorphic or remastered they'll do until Lucas or his heirs get their act together.

How do we know he isn't wearing a Slave Leia outfit over that Chewbacca costume?

Mazje

I'm not suggesting this has happened, just throwing it out there: What if they have "fixed" some of their previous changes? What changes would really "sell" you on this set?

I realize we're not getting my ideal set (the originals, untouched), so I'm trying to figure out what a good "compromise" would be. Star Wars is generally fine, if they would fix the Han/Greedo scene. I could do without the Jabba scene, but that's easily skippable. Mos Eisley being "busy" I can live with.

Empire has always struck me as being the least tampered with. While not happy with the changes, I can live with them.

Jedi...wow, where to start. I know there are people who don't like Jedi, but I've always loved it. Having said that, there's soooo much stuff that's been changed I don't know where a compromise would begin. Big one would be reverting to the original Anakin. But is that one change enough to make me overlook that stupid Jedi rocks scene? I always liked the Ewok song better at the end as well, but in exchange for what? The Sarlacc's new mouth? Less Gungans in the end?

I realize there's nothing we can do about, just curious as to everyone's thoughts.