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Old 10-09-13, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by milo bloom
Pretty sure the Blinking Ewok in ROTJ was first on the Bluray. Can't remember which specific scene that is though.
I think it was Wicket was standing on the log with Leia checking out her helmet. Not sure which release it originated in but I don't think it was the BD. I've seen the blinking (which I thought was an 'okay' change) but I've yet to watch the Jedi BD.
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For those who bought these does the new packaging make the films any less shitty?
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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
I think it was Wicket was standing on the log with Leia checking out her helmet. Not sure which release it originated in but I don't think it was the BD. I've seen the blinking (which I thought was an 'okay' change) but I've yet to watch the Jedi BD.
The blinking Ewoks was definitely introduced with the Blu-ray release. There were video clips of it on the net though, which is where you may have seen it (I know that's where I saw it).

http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/star-wa...jabbas-palace/
http://www.highdefdigest.com/blog/st...linking-ewoks/
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I still think it is hilarious that fixing Luke's constantly changing lightsaber on the Falcon isn't a concern but the Ewok has to blink.

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Originally Posted by Jay G.
The blinking Ewoks was definitely introduced with the Blu-ray release. There were video clips of it on the net though, which is where you may have seen it (I know that's where I saw it).

http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/star-wa...jabbas-palace/
http://www.highdefdigest.com/blog/st...linking-ewoks/
Could be. That's one of those changes I'm fine with. It's subtle but does add a little to the characters, makes them more lifelike.
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Originally Posted by stvn1974
For those who bought these does the new packaging make the films any less shitty?
Old 10-10-13, 01:15 AM
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I heard this new packaging was what George Lucas wanted originally, but the technology didn't exist at the time.
Old 10-11-13, 12:26 AM
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Someone on the other forum confirmed that these DVD's have the 2011 version of the films.
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Weird. They must've done a new encode of the DVDs rather than just repackaging the old 2004 releases. Surprised they'd take the time.

Originally Posted by stvn1974
For those who bought these does the new packaging make the films any less shitty?
The only thing that could do that is releasing them the way they came out, and that looks about as likely as Richard Dawkins converting to Christianity.
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Originally Posted by Jay G.
A Basic list of the most significant changes:
http://screenrant.com/star-wars-blur...s-benm-131712/

Darth Vadar says “No” several times as he picks up Emperor Palpatine and tosses him into the Death Star reactor core; the “Nos” seem to be sampled from The Empire Strikes Back and Revenge of the Sith, respectively

I have never seen the Blu-Ray versions of the OT. This sounds hysterical!
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Originally Posted by TheBang
Someone on the other forum confirmed that these DVD's have the 2011 version of the films.
Were those never available at the time of the BD release?
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Originally Posted by Gizmo
Were those never available at the time of the BD release?
Nope, there wasn't a separate DVD release in 2011, just the Blu-ray sets, and all the older DVD releases are out of print.
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I have never seen the Blu-Ray versions of the OT. This sounds hysterical!
It's pretty awful:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27RVJJfny4I


I remember when the Blu-ray was coming out, some of the changes were leaked, and some people were convinced that the changes were hoaxes.
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I am convinced that Lucas added the "Noooo, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" to Jedi because he knew how much people hated it in Sith. It was his last fuck you to the fans before selling Star Wars to Disney.
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^ Ah! That's good stuff! So over the top. Too bad Lucas didn't have a chance to add an audience of Stormtroopers cheering Vader on like a bunch of rowdy wrestling fans.
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Originally Posted by The Valeyard
^ Ah! That's good stuff! So over the top. Too bad Lucas didn't have a chance to add an audience of Stormtroopers cheering Vader on like a bunch of rowdy wrestling fans.
That's being saved for the 2015 re-release.
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I think the artwork for the new re-releases is better than the 2011 editions.

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Originally Posted by JeffTheAlpaca
I think the artwork for the new re-releases is better than the 2011 editions.

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Why couldn't Disney just release an edited version of the current OT films to make them as close to the OOT as possible? Keep effect changes but remove anything that alters the original version like the Dewback, extended spaceport intro, Jabba at the Falcon, etc. At that point, how much content is really missing? They'd have to remaster the original dance scene in Jabba's Palace, the final celebration and other odds and ends like Sebastian Shaw but that would give a release close to the original vision but have the quality of the new releases with minimal work.
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Originally Posted by llars
Why couldn't Disney just release an edited version of the current OT films to make them as close to the OOT as possible? Keep effect changes but remove anything that alters the original version like the Dewback, extended spaceport intro, Jabba at the Falcon, etc. At that point, how much content is really missing? They'd have to remaster the original dance scene in Jabba's Palace, the final celebration and other odds and ends like Sebastian Shaw but that would give a release close to the original vision but have the quality of the new releases with minimal work.
You're suggesting they half ass Star Wars?

Great plan. People will love that.

Just search for the Depecialized Edition and abandon hope like I did.
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Originally Posted by RobLutter
Just search for the Depecialized Edition and abandon hope like I did.
My approach exactly. I have Harmy's HD versions on a dedicated USB thumb drive. At this point, all of this chatter is just pure entertainment.
Old 10-23-13, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by llars
Why couldn't Disney just release an edited version of the current OT films to make them as close to the OOT as possible? Keep effect changes but remove anything that alters the original version like the Dewback, extended spaceport intro, Jabba at the Falcon, etc...
I think that would venture too far into "editorial" functioning for the studio, since they would have to make subjective determinations on what to change back and what to keep. Studios typically like to keep the versions limited to either original theatrical or director's cut, with maybe the occasional "unrated" cut that may or may not be director approved (if not preferred).

If Disney is going to make any changes to revert Star Wars, they may as well go whole-hog and restore the complete originals. It's not like it'd cost them very much (relatively speaking). Hell, they could probably do a seamless branching version of original, 97 SE, 2004 DVD, and 2011 Blu-ray versions all on one disc.

Also, many people are hoping Disney does a full restore because the last time they were transferred digitally for the 2004 DVDs, it was a 1080p scan (apparently because Lucas thought this was "good enough"). A full 4K+ remaster of both original and SE versions would be ideal.

BTW, there are fan edits that do split the difference, keeping some of the updated effects and fixes while reverting back the most objectionable changes. I think this is the realm that anything aside from restoring the originals will stay; as unofficial fan edits.
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If Disney did release the OT complete untouched and just restored people would complain because those matte lines are going to be a real eyesore.
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Originally Posted by stvn1974
If Disney did release the OT complete untouched and just restored people would complain because those matte lines are going to be a real eyesore.
If the unaltered OT is ever restored and re-released, it's likely going to be in conjunction with the SE version, so people can choose which one they want. I don't think there were many people complaining about the old effects on the Star Trek Blu-rays when watching it with that option.

Harmy's Despecialized editions add back the matte lines, and the people that like those aren't complaining.

And at least there'd be a high-quality source of the unaltered trilogy for people to make their own fan edits of.


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