Star Trek: Nov 17 - Page 4

g · 09-06-09, 10:22 PM

Thanks for posting about the limited trek set on amazon. Because of it, I ordered before amazon raised the price to 116.99. I would never seen it without the help.

MadonnasManOne · 09-07-09, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by g

Thanks for posting about the limited trek set on amazon. Because of it, I ordered before amazon raised the price to 116.99. I would never seen it without the help.

No problem! I'm glad that someone else, other than myself, will enjoy this. I still haven't ordered, yet, because I don't know if I can afford it, but, I really am thinking about it. Just too much stuff coming out! I'll probably bite on this set, but, I've got to make sure I can also afford the other stuff I want to get.

Edit to add: CRAP! I didn't know that they had already raised the price! Dang! I guess I won't be biting on this set, as much as I want it. I may just go the Best Buy route. DARNIT!

g · 09-07-09, 01:49 AM

You should still order and see if it gets lowered before release. They still have the preorder price guarantee. You can cancel before it releases if the price doesnt change. And, you never know if it actually sells out, it will be a good deal even at the higher price.

raven56706 · 09-07-09, 09:11 AM

gives me chills

MadonnasManOne · 09-07-09, 12:43 PM

Blu-Ray and DVD presentation from Comic-Con 2009! I can't wait for this to come out!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYZBwTNXNXM

buckee1 · 09-07-09, 03:49 PM

It's clear now what everyone on my Christmas List will be getting!

AOD · 09-08-09, 11:36 AM

What a great movie. Definite purchase.

mewmartigan · 09-08-09, 02:10 PM

I will be getting the blu ray on day 1. This was my favorite movie of the summer.
Liked the original artwork better but I will get over it since I only ever look at the cover when taking the disc out or putting it back in....

g · 09-08-09, 10:13 PM

Amazon actually returned the limited trek set back to 90.99 if anybody is interested.

MadonnasManOne · 09-09-09, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by g

Amazon actually returned the limited trek set back to 90.99 if anybody is interested.

Awesome! Now, when do they actually charge you for the order? At the time you place it, or when they ship it? Does anyone know?

g · 09-09-09, 12:59 AM

They should charge on shipment. That how its been at amazon in the past.

MadonnasManOne · 09-09-09, 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by g

They should charge on shipment. That how its been at amazon in the past.

Thanks for the information! I appreciate it. I guess I can always preorder, and if it should turn out I can't afford it, I can cancel before it ships.

jdslater1 · 09-09-09, 07:34 AM

I'm really looking forward to this release. JJ really gets the format and gives us some really good extras on his films in the past.
I really want to see that scene when the Enterprise comes out of Saturns rings (to me, the coolest looking scene in the film) in HD quality. Always reminded me of that bit in STII when she comes up behind the Relient.

jdslater1 · 09-13-09, 12:19 PM

Just looking on iTunes as this film is up for pre-order, here are some of the comments for this.
"This film is brilliant beyond belief!"
"seriously, this is the best film ever! everything about it is brilliant!"
"legendary, film of the century"

I kid you not!
Me? I just enjoyed it alot.

hdtv00 · 10-25-09, 03:45 PM

Yep Story wise frankly its a mess. To me almost as bad as transformers 2. But it's trek and the characters are so damn great of course people forget the story basically makes no fucking sense at times.

Also I see big macro blocking during the vulcan transporter scene. Lasts about 30 seconds.

Shannon Nutt · 10-25-09, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by hdtv00

Yep Story wise frankly its a mess. To me almost as bad as transformers 2.

See, to me Star Trek looks like Shakespeare compared to Transformers 2, but then again pretty much any release in 2009 looks like Shakespeare next to Tranformers 2, although 2012 does come out in a few weeks.

AmityBoatTours · 10-25-09, 09:02 PM

huh? what about the story doesnt make sense at times.
to me its pretty straight forward, and pretty darn easy to follow.

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Originally Posted by hdtv00

Yep Story wise frankly its a mess. To me almost as bad as transformers 2. But it's trek and the characters are so damn great of course people forget the story basically makes no fucking sense at times.

Also I see big macro blocking during the vulcan transporter scene. Lasts about 30 seconds.

mzupeman2 · 10-25-09, 09:36 PM

Same here. I thought the story was clever and incredibly well put together. I'm really not sure how one doesn't follow it. My wife hates Star Trek normally, but even she 'got' this movie and enjoyed it immensely.

slop101 · 10-26-09, 02:06 AM

It's not hard to follow, but it's certainly not "incredibly well put together" either. The characters are well-written but there's definitely some lazy writing as far as the story's concerned.

Wolf359 · 10-26-09, 02:17 AM

The only thing I could never get was what Nero and his crew did? Were they just sitting there in the ship for twenty odd years?

WMAangel · 10-26-09, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolf359

The only thing I could never get was what Nero and his crew did? Were they just sitting there in the ship for twenty odd years?

There was a whole deleted subplot where Nero was imprisoned by Klingons, which will supposedly show up in the deleted scenes on the upcoming BD/DVD release....

Jumpman · 10-26-09, 06:38 AM

The writers should've just gone with a straight reboot. Having this film in continuity with the overall series created some lazy writing on their part. It's the script that almost kills the direction of JJ Abrams and the wonderful cast he assembled.

For me, this film is very much in the same vain as Iron Man. The performances and slick directing mask the script problems. Differences between the two is that Abrams doesn't drop the ball in the third act the way Favreau did with Iron Man.

I'm still baffled by the "red matter" science. Hell, with Nero's drill, why not use that instead of imploring this "red matter."

You could easily rip into this script and into this movie almost as much as Revenge of the Fallen. (a film I know is completely horrendous at the script level, but like Abrams, Bay's direction and the fact that I like the cast save it. My guilty pleasure of 2009).

WMAangel · 10-26-09, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Jumpman

I'm still baffled by the "red matter" science. Hell, with Nero's drill, why not use that instead of imploring this "red matter."

That's the "fi" of the term "sci-fi"....you can't try and explain it scientifically...it's just one of those things that needs to be accepted by the viewer, like the transporter....it just does what it does...

Having seen JJ Abrams' previous work on ALIAS, I thought the look of the red matter was a bit of a tribute to the Mueller/Rambaldi device from that show...

Solid Snake PAC · 10-26-09, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Jumpman

The writers should've just gone with a straight reboot. Having this film in continuity with the overall series created some lazy writing on their part. It's the script that almost kills the direction of JJ Abrams and the wonderful cast he assembled.

For me, this film is very much in the same vain as Iron Man. The performances and slick directing mask the script problems. Differences between the two is that Abrams doesn't drop the ball in the third act the way Favreau did with Iron Man.

I'm still baffled by the "red matter" science. Hell, with Nero's drill, why not use that instead of imploring this "red matter."

You could easily rip into this script and into this movie almost as much as Revenge of the Fallen. (a film I know is completely horrendous at the script level, but like Abrams, Bay's direction and the fact that I like the cast save it. My guilty pleasure of 2009).

Wait..you're not saying that ST hasn't had crap writing right? I mean...well...it's sucked for a long time actually.

Suprmallet · 10-26-09, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Jumpman

For me, this film is very much in the same vain as Iron Man. The performances and slick directing mask the script problems. Differences between the two is that Abrams doesn't drop the ball in the third act the way Favreau did with Iron Man.

See, I actually thought Favreau's directing held back a better script. The action is directed very poorly in Iron Man, imo. The character moments are the highlights.

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Originally Posted by Jumpman

You could easily rip into this script and into this movie almost as much as Revenge of the Fallen. (a film I know is completely horrendous at the script level, but like Abrams, Bay's direction and the fact that I like the cast save it. My guilty pleasure of 2009).

No, you can't. Star Trek isn't a perfect script, but it's so far beyond Revenge of the Fallen that it's not even funny. And Bay's direction ruined what few good elements of ROTF there were.

09-06-09, 10:22 PM	#76
g DVD Talk Special Edition Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 1,997	Re: Star Trek: Nov 17 Thanks for posting about the limited trek set on amazon. Because of it, I ordered before amazon raised the price to 116.99. I would never seen it without the help.

09-07-09, 01:49 AM	#78
g DVD Talk Special Edition Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 1,997	Re: Star Trek: Nov 17 You should still order and see if it gets lowered before release. They still have the preorder price guarantee. You can cancel before it releases if the price doesnt change. And, you never know if it actually sells out, it will be a good deal even at the higher price. Last edited by g; 09-07-09 at 01:53 AM.

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mewmartigan Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 116	Re: Star Trek: Nov 17 I will be getting the blu ray on day 1. This was my favorite movie of the summer. Liked the original artwork better but I will get over it since I only ever look at the cover when taking the disc out or putting it back in....

09-08-09, 10:13 PM	#84
g DVD Talk Special Edition Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 1,997	Re: Star Trek: Nov 17 Amazon actually returned the limited trek set back to 90.99 if anybody is interested.

09-09-09, 12:59 AM	#86
g DVD Talk Special Edition Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 1,997	Re: Star Trek: Nov 17 They should charge on shipment. That how its been at amazon in the past.

09-09-09, 07:34 AM	#88
jdslater1 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: london Posts: 867	Re: Star Trek: Nov 17 I'm really looking forward to this release. JJ really gets the format and gives us some really good extras on his films in the past. I really want to see that scene when the Enterprise comes out of Saturns rings (to me, the coolest looking scene in the film) in HD quality. Always reminded me of that bit in STII when she comes up behind the Relient. __________________ "Sit down, dim the lights. Or turn them off if you don't have a dimmer!"

09-13-09, 12:19 PM	#89
jdslater1 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: london Posts: 867	Re: Star Trek: Nov 17 Just looking on iTunes as this film is up for pre-order, here are some of the comments for this. "This film is brilliant beyond belief!" "seriously, this is the best film ever! everything about it is brilliant!" "legendary, film of the century" I kid you not! Me? I just enjoyed it alot. __________________ "Sit down, dim the lights. Or turn them off if you don't have a dimmer!"

10-25-09, 03:45 PM	#90
hdtv00 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 971	Re: Star Trek: Nov 17 Yep Story wise frankly its a mess. To me almost as bad as transformers 2. But it's trek and the characters are so damn great of course people forget the story basically makes no fucking sense at times. Also I see big macro blocking during the vulcan transporter scene. Lasts about 30 seconds. __________________ Paradigm Studio 100/570/20's/2200 Sub Onkyo 876/Asus HDAV 1.3/Intel 80g SSD i7 920/6 gig 1600/BFG single PSB 295 42" LCD/Mits HD1000

10-25-09, 09:36 PM	#93
mzupeman2 DVD Talk Reviewer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: NY Posts: 2,807	Re: Star Trek: Nov 17 Same here. I thought the story was clever and incredibly well put together. I'm really not sure how one doesn't follow it. My wife hates Star Trek normally, but even she 'got' this movie and enjoyed it immensely. __________________ Oppo BDP-83 - Pioneer 1019AH-K - Samsung 46A550

10-26-09, 02:06 AM	#94
slop101 DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: in your mind Posts: 11,935	Re: Star Trek: Nov 17 It's not hard to follow, but it's certainly not "incredibly well put together" either. The characters are well-written but there's definitely some lazy writing as far as the story's concerned.

10-26-09, 02:17 AM	#95
Wolf359 Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Dallas TX Posts: 852	Re: Star Trek: Nov 17 The only thing I could never get was what Nero and his crew did? Were they just sitting there in the ship for twenty odd years?

10-26-09, 06:38 AM	#97
Jumpman Cool New Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 45	Re: Star Trek: Nov 17 The writers should've just gone with a straight reboot. Having this film in continuity with the overall series created some lazy writing on their part. It's the script that almost kills the direction of JJ Abrams and the wonderful cast he assembled. For me, this film is very much in the same vain as Iron Man. The performances and slick directing mask the script problems. Differences between the two is that Abrams doesn't drop the ball in the third act the way Favreau did with Iron Man. I'm still baffled by the "red matter" science. Hell, with Nero's drill, why not use that instead of imploring this "red matter." You could easily rip into this script and into this movie almost as much as Revenge of the Fallen. (a film I know is completely horrendous at the script level, but like Abrams, Bay's direction and the fact that I like the cast save it. My guilty pleasure of 2009). Last edited by Jumpman; 10-26-09 at 06:43 AM.