Rumor new hd-dvd format comming ? No, there's not.

[mooncat]

Hi is is true ive been told HD-DVD might be comming back as new format does anybody know if its true ? ive asked a few shops and they say BLU-RAY might fail if this new format does come back also im reading every where that HD-DVD was better in picture and sound as they had no region codes on disc's as all HD-DVDS was region free i hope this is not true as ive spent a alot of cash on BLU-RAY'S.if can as any info or does know about a new format that might be comming out in furture etc. please leave a reply here.

Thank u

[Anubis2005X]

[The Black]

Whether the poster is serious or not:

HD-DVD is over, never coming back, finito, adios.
So don't worry.

[JoeySeven]

Okay I'll bit.
Who told you?
Was it the Video/audio pro at Walmart or some bum on the corner asking for beer.
Oh they might even be the same guy...:-)

[Adam Tyner]

There was a recent poll that listed huge support for HD DVD, but it turns out they were counting upconverting DVD players as HD DVD. Oops! Maybe they saw that same report and misunderstood...?

There's no chance of HD DVD really re-emerging. Maybe burning off players at Big Lots or something, but that's it. It no longer has any competitive advantage, and the only way it would is if studios jumped ship from Blu-ray...something that'd never happen. I don't see another physical format threatening Blu-ray anytime soon and probably not ever.

[Vipper II]

skool izent cool

[GizmoDVD]

Not happening. You can get a $50 A3 and $5 movie at Fry's...that's about it.

[Drexl]

Originally Posted by Adam Tyner

I don't see another physical format threatening Blu-ray anytime soon and probably not ever.

Well, that depends on what happens with 3D. If Panasonic's method is adopted, I'd call that a new format, even if it uses the same disc structure.

[Giles]

Originally Posted by Vipper II

skool izent cool

it be izn't

[obidawsn]

They may be confusing Toshiba's XD upscaling players with a new format. Since Toshiba refused to give in after losing the format war, they decided to tout new upconverting DVD players that were supposed to be much better than other upconverting players, but they didn't do so well. But now that Toshiba has said that they are looking into making Blu-ray players (realizing it's inevitable since they're losing so much ground in the market), that should prove to the idiots out there that HD DVD isn't coming back.

[rfduncan]

There's a better chance that Circuit City's DIVX format comes back.

[GizmoDVD]

Originally Posted by obidawsn

They may be confusing Toshiba's XD upscaling players with a new format. Since Toshiba refused to give in after losing the format war, they decided to tout new upconverting DVD players that were supposed to be much better than other upconverting players, but they didn't do so well. But now that Toshiba has said that they are looking into making Blu-ray players (realizing it's inevitable since they're losing so much ground in the market), that should prove to the idiots out there that HD DVD isn't coming back.

"refused to give in"? They wanted a brand to sell with their HDTVs and making a Blu-ray player right then and there was not an option. The Blu-ray market is still incredibly low and there is no real incentive for Toshiba to make a Blu-ray player when DVD players still outsell it 10+ to 1 (which they have a large patent in). Take a look a DVD Player sales compared to Blu-ray player sales before you make comments like that. By the time Toshiba actually releases a Blu-ray player we should already be flooded with crappy Chinese branded players making most of brand names drop prices.

[Blu Man]

Originally Posted by Drexl

Well, that depends on what happens with 3D. If Panasonic's method is adopted, I'd call that a new format, even if it uses the same disc structure.

Am I the only one who hates 3D movies? I'll see Avatar in 3D but thats about it.

[GizmoDVD]

Originally Posted by Blu Man

Am I the only one who hates 3D movies? I'll see Avatar in 3D but thats about it.

I hate 3D movies as well. I have no intentions of buying a 3D Blu-ray player or a 3D TV. If all movies "go" 3D that is when I stop watching movies.

[Blu Man]

Originally Posted by GizmoDVD

I hate 3D movies as well. I have no intentions of buying a 3D Blu-ray player or a 3D TV. If all movies "go" 3D that is when I stop watching movies.

Same here, but that won't happen for a long time. If ever. Gives me a headache.

[Steve Phillips]

There's always a flat version of 3-D movies for those of you who don't want to see them in stereoscopic form. Just like you can always listen to surround sound movies in mono if you feel multi channel sound is too realistic, distracting or hurts your ears..

Even though 3-D movies are becoming a part of the mix; as long as glasses are required there is no way they would completely take over, either in theaters or at home. You'll always be able to watch your "flatties"; even if the director's preferred version is a "depthie" or whatever they will call them.

This is the great thing about the new 3-D home systems; they are said to be 2-D/3-D compatible. Want to watch flat? Fine. Want to watch in 3-D next time? Press a button, put on the glasses and do so, all with the same disc. Switch back and forth. No need to be forced to choose one option or the other.

[GenPion]

Yes, a new HD DVD format is coming, ignore these haters, Super HD DVD Yello-ray arrives Fall 2020. Just keeping ya posted!

[DVD Polizei]

Originally Posted by mooncat

Hi is is true ive been told HD-DVD might be comming back as new format does anybody know if its true ? ive asked a few shops and they say BLU-RAY might fail if this new format does come back also im reading every where that HD-DVD was better in picture and sound as they had no region codes on disc's as all HD-DVDS was region free i hope this is not true as ive spent a alot of cash on BLU-RAY'S.if can as any info or does know about a new format that might be comming out in furture etc. please leave a reply here.

Thank u

Well if blurayz iz rplaced by the new hddvds format you better learn how to get a new HDTV cuz the new format won't fit in the new aspects rations do to teh limiterz on the LCD screen and plasma protons but if these are region free then my blu-ray discs should be ok but on the other hand if they are not then I'm not sure what I will do because if I have to decide between the two hd dvd and blu-ray i'll be confused so I might just sell the hd dvds I have and upgrade to the new hd dvd discs but then i'd have to sell my toshiba hd dvd player and I don't really want to do that so yeah, I guess you might be right if the new format comes along but i'd make sure to save my receipts because saving your receipts is a good thing.

[Joe Molotov]

DVD Polizei spittin' hot fiyah, fo rizzle.

[PopcornTreeCt]

I know everyone is bashing this post. But strangely enough this isn't the first place I've heard this rumor. Unless, mooncat gets around.

[obidawsn]

Originally Posted by GizmoDVD

"refused to give in"? They wanted a brand to sell with their HDTVs and making a Blu-ray player right then and there was not an option. The Blu-ray market is still incredibly low and there is no real incentive for Toshiba to make a Blu-ray player when DVD players still outsell it 10+ to 1 (which they have a large patent in). Take a look a DVD Player sales compared to Blu-ray player sales before you make comments like that. By the time Toshiba actually releases a Blu-ray player we should already be flooded with crappy Chinese branded players making most of brand names drop prices.

Actually, you just gave a reason for Toshiba to make Blu-ray players. If they want an HD player to sell with their HDTV, then they will have to make a Blu-ray player. I know they thought that releasing some new upscaling DVD player would give them a leg to stand on. They advertised it as a player that will give you HD quality with your regular DVDs. Now, we all know that that's impossible, and I'm sure they did, too. So why do it? They figured it would confuse the average person, they would buy their product (which was seemingly cheaper) thinking they would get the same quality of Blu-ray without having to buy new discs. But this idea failed, and Blu-ray continues to do well. Now when people are buying a new HDTV and wanting a new player, they are considering Blu-ray players. People know that it's the new format, it's promoted everywhere. And a lot of people are going to want to buy the same brand player as their TV (maybe not all people, but a lot). Since Toshiba doesn't have a Blu-ray player on the market, they may lose sales on their TVs. Even though they may be making quite a bit of money from DVD player sales, and would rather Blu-ray not grow and DVD to stay strong, they are seeing it as inevitable. If people are going to buy Blu-ray players, they might as well make a player and get a small piece of the pie, because it's better than none (and a loss in sales for their HDTVs). But let's put it in the words of Toshiba's president, himself "It makes no sense to decide not to enter the Blu-Ray market simply because we lost the DVD-format war. We cannot change the fact that we lost, but we would like to keep our options open," Sure, they're keeping their options open, but they also see it doesn't make sense to not make Blu-ray players. That quote was to a group of shareholders, whom I'm assuming was asking about Toshiba's plans for Blu-ray, because I'm sure they're questioning the future of Toshiba because they haven't entered the market, yet. DVD may be outselling Blu-ray, right now, but in the business world, you have to be looking toward the future, and Blu-ray is the future, whether you like it or not. If they wait too long to enter the Blu-ray market, then when it does start outselling DVD (or, at least, have a huge chunk of the market, which will be soon), then they will be behind in the market and would have a lot of catching up to do to keep up with Sony, Panasonic, and Samsung (who all are building a strong hold in the Blu-ray player market, right now).

[Qui Gon Jim]

Originally Posted by obidawsn

Actually, you just gave a reason for Toshiba to make Blu-ray players. If they want an HD player to sell with their HDTV, then they will have to make a Blu-ray player. I know they thought that releasing some new upscaling DVD player would give them a leg to stand on. They advertised it as a player that will give you HD quality with your regular DVDs. Now, we all know that that's impossible, and I'm sure they did, too. So why do it? They figured it would confuse the average person, they would buy their product (which was seemingly cheaper) thinking they would get the same quality of Blu-ray without having to buy new discs. But this idea failed, and Blu-ray continues to do well. Now when people are buying a new HDTV and wanting a new player, they are considering Blu-ray players. People know that it's the new format, it's promoted everywhere. And a lot of people are going to want to buy the same brand player as their TV (maybe not all people, but a lot). Since Toshiba doesn't have a Blu-ray player on the market, they may lose sales on their TVs. Even though they may be making quite a bit of money from DVD player sales, and would rather Blu-ray not grow and DVD to stay strong, they are seeing it as inevitable. If people are going to buy Blu-ray players, they might as well make a player and get a small piece of the pie, because it's better than none (and a loss in sales for their HDTVs). But let's put it in the words of Toshiba's president, himself "It makes no sense to decide not to enter the Blu-Ray market simply because we lost the DVD-format war. We cannot change the fact that we lost, but we would like to keep our options open," Sure, they're keeping their options open, but they also see it doesn't make sense to not make Blu-ray players. That quote was to a group of shareholders, whom I'm assuming was asking about Toshiba's plans for Blu-ray, because I'm sure they're questioning the future of Toshiba because they haven't entered the market, yet. DVD may be outselling Blu-ray, right now, but in the business world, you have to be looking toward the future, and Blu-ray is the future, whether you like it or not. If they wait too long to enter the Blu-ray market, then when it does start outselling DVD (or, at least, have a huge chunk of the market, which will be soon), then they will be behind in the market and would have a lot of catching up to do to keep up with Sony, Panasonic, and Samsung (who all are building a strong hold in the Blu-ray player market, right now).

You are definitely looking at this with Blu-Colored glasses. The bolded statement above is especially spinnish, the same spin we have been hearing for years. "Just wait, BD will take over the world...soon."

Toshiba, due to their loss with the HD DVD format missed the lucrative stage of player sales, and it is a definite question whether anything they deliver will make any real money now that ultra-cheap Chinese models are starting to hit. They don't really have any way to recoup R+D losses like some of the other CEs do/did. They are staying with what is lucrative for them now, and what will be lucrative for years to come (DVD is not under immediate danger from BD, anyone that says so is either drinking hard or selling something). However, these companies do tend to try and play their cards close to the vest, and they may have something up their sleeve, but are being quiet on it.

[Josh Z]

The Chinese CBHD format is based on HD DVD. Perhaps someone read a news article about that and greatly confused the information?

[GizmoDVD]

Originally Posted by Qui Gon Jim

You are definitely looking at this with Blu-Colored glasses. The bolded statement above is especially spinnish, the same spin we have been hearing for years. "Just wait, BD will take over the world...soon."

Toshiba, due to their loss with the HD DVD format missed the lucrative stage of player sales, and it is a definite question whether anything they deliver will make any real money now that ultra-cheap Chinese models are starting to hit. They don't really have any way to recoup R+D losses like some of the other CEs do/did. They are staying with what is lucrative for them now, and what will be lucrative for years to come (DVD is not under immediate danger from BD, anyone that says so is either drinking hard or selling something). However, these companies do tend to try and play their cards close to the vest, and they may have something up their sleeve, but are being quiet on it.

We'll get a Toshiba BD player eventually...hopefully they toss in some hidden HD DVD support

[obidawsn]

Originally Posted by Qui Gon Jim

You are definitely looking at this with Blu-Colored glasses. The bolded statement above is especially spinnish, the same spin we have been hearing for years. "Just wait, BD will take over the world...soon."

Toshiba, due to their loss with the HD DVD format missed the lucrative stage of player sales, and it is a definite question whether anything they deliver will make any real money now that ultra-cheap Chinese models are starting to hit. They don't really have any way to recoup R+D losses like some of the other CEs do/did. They are staying with what is lucrative for them now, and what will be lucrative for years to come (DVD is not under immediate danger from BD, anyone that says so is either drinking hard or selling something). However, these companies do tend to try and play their cards close to the vest, and they may have something up their sleeve, but are being quiet on it.

I'm definitely not looking at anything through Blu-colored glasses. I was an HD DVD supporter. For one, I had the player and several movies, and didn't want Blu-ray to win. I wasn't in on the technical debate, as I didn't study all the technical stuff on either, but I sided with HD DVD, especially when I was able to get a player for $100. I argued that it was the better format, if just for name recognition. Even my in-laws (who are in their 70s) knew what HD DVD was. They knew it was High Definition DVD. It made sense to them. Blu-ray, on the other hand, was a little more confusing. Not that they were interested in either format, but when we told them that we had an HD DVD player, they knew exactly what it was. But when I wanted a Blu-ray movie for Christmas, they weren't so sure what it was. Alas, it didn't win, so I knew I would inevitably have to go with Blu-ray, even though it took me almost a year to do so. Since then we've seen several reports about the problems of Blu-ray players, which HD DVD wouldn't have (i.e. having to have two lasers, with one of them going out making playing DVDs or playing Blu-rays impossible, even though the other worked). I don't see any benefit to Blu-ray over HD DVD, except the scratch-resistant coating and the size (which HD DVD could have eventually overcome). However, anyone who denies that Blu-ray is growing isn't paying any attention and listening to the naysayers. Like I quoted above, even the president of Toshiba admits that much. Yeah, it makes sense for Toshiba to want to stay in the DVD market, and why shouldn't they? It makes sense for them to want to keep DVD a huge selling format. But they need to look toward the future. I didn't say that Blu-ray was going to "take over the world", but it's taking a good run with it. And as more and more people purchase HDTVs, they'll want HD content to go with it. As long as Blu-ray plays their cards right, which I believe they are for the most part, they will be known as the main format for HD content when it comes to physical media (and that's already taking place in other countries). Will it take over DVD? Who knows? Will it be a huge part of the market? Yes. And I was giving the reason why Toshiba would care. They want to sell HDTVs, why not sell them a Blu-ray player with it? And a lot of people will want their Blu-ray player the same brand as their TV, if only for simplicity, unity, or whatever. Guess what, they're going to go for the Samsung, Sony, and Panasonic TVs if Toshiba doesn't have a Blu-ray player to sell with it.