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Old 12-10-08, 11:56 AM   #1
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I AM LEGEND in a different aspect ratio?

Did anyone get the blu ray collector's edition of I AM LEGEND? I wanted to know if it's in full anamorphic wide screen or still in letter box.
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Old 12-10-08, 12:02 PM   #2
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Old 12-10-08, 12:10 PM   #3
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Old 12-10-08, 12:11 PM   #4
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Did anyone get the blu ray collector's edition of I AM LEGEND? I wanted to know if it's in full anamorphic wide screen or still in letter box.
I think you are mixing terms. Blu-ray titles are in Original Aspect Ratio. Anamorphic enhancement is a feature of some DVDs.

Having "Black Bars" only means a movie was filmed in an aspect ratio greater than 1.78:1.

Try this link for background:

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/articl...hic/index.html
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Old 12-11-08, 02:19 PM   #5
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Did anyone get the blu ray collector's edition of I AM LEGEND? I wanted to know if it's in full anamorphic wide screen or still in letter box.
You will see black bars on the top and bottom of your widescreen TV when you play this Blu-ray title.
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Old 12-11-08, 02:32 PM   #6
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Did anyone get the blu ray collector's edition of I AM LEGEND? I wanted to know if it's in full anamorphic wide screen or still in letter box.
There have been no letter box versions of this movie released.
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Old 12-11-08, 02:49 PM   #7
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I thought widescreen/letterbox were the same thing???
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Old 12-11-08, 03:25 PM   #8
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Did anyone get the blu ray collector's edition of I AM LEGEND? I wanted to know if it's in full anamorphic wide screen or still in letter box.
It's in fullscreen only with burned Spanish subtitles and forced trailers, FBI logo and Anti-piracy ad at the beginning. It's also a flipper disc that comes in a snapcase packaging.
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Old 12-11-08, 03:45 PM   #9
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For some reason he thinks that blu-rays are in "anamorphic widescreen". Check his other posts.
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Old 12-11-08, 04:31 PM   #10
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For some reason he thinks that blu-rays are in "anamorphic widescreen". Check his other posts.
Yep, and he seems completely uninterested in learning anything about aspect ratios. He just wants his widescreen TV filled, with no black bars.
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Old 12-11-08, 05:03 PM   #11
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Yep, and he seems completely uninterested in learning anything about aspect ratios. He just wants his widescreen TV filled, with no black bars.
Let's hope that doesn't become a prevailing trend as J6P adopts BD.....the new "fool screen".
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Old 12-13-08, 05:47 PM   #12
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I thought widescreen/letterbox were the same thing???
It used to. Now that 16:9 TVs are common the nomenclature has changed a bit. "Widescreen" is assumed to mean enhanced (or anamorphic) standard definition DVDs that fill the entire width of the (16:9) television or Blu-rays that do the same (they don't need to be enhanced), regardless of whether it still has black bars. "Letterboxed" now refers to programming that is 4:3 but with black bars to simulate widescreen. On a regular 4:3 television it will have black bars on top and bottom (as usual). On a 16:9 television it will be centered on the screen like a regular 4:3 program (like your average TV show), but will also still have black bars.

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Old 12-13-08, 08:01 PM   #13
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Let's hope that doesn't become a prevailing trend as J6P adopts BD.....the new "fool screen".
OAR Freaks won't be the reason why Blu-ray succeeds. It will in fact be, your pot belly J6P, who just cracked a Bud Light in his home, celebrating getting a Blu-ray player and HDTV at Best Buy.

So, let's be a little more understanding of the situation. If anything, you should be pointing blame to your movie studios and the BDA for not getting the message across in stores across the US. And you should be blaming studios most of all because they're the stupid fucks who keep on releasing fullscreen editions. Who's the 'tard.
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Old 12-13-08, 10:52 PM   #14
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For some reason he thinks that blu-rays are in "anamorphic widescreen". Check his other posts.
I just double-checked my Lonesome Dove Blu-ray package. On the back it says..."Enhanced For Widescreen TVs". Probably an error, but this is the kind of misinformation I'm talking about, and it's rather naive to blame J6P exclusively.

We J169P folk should pay attention to the misinformation coming from studios as well.
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Old 12-13-08, 11:21 PM   #15
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Actually, Blu-ray Discs and HD DVDs are enhanced for 16:9/anamorphic. You can watch them on a 4x3 television and the players will downcovert the 16x9 image to a 4x3 compatible signal.

Video games are the same way. They are enhanced for 16x9 but can downvert to 4x3 if needed.

I know this because I had a 27" television and was watching HD DVDs on my 360 before the 40" Sony HDTV I got.
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Old 12-14-08, 02:15 AM   #16
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Actually, Blu-ray Discs and HD DVDs are enhanced for 16:9/anamorphic. You can watch them on a 4x3 television and the players will downcovert the 16x9 image to a 4x3 compatible signal.
No, they are not. They are 16:9 natively.
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Old 12-15-08, 01:16 AM   #17
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No, they are not. They are 16:9 natively.
So explain how I was able to watch 1080p HD material on my old 27" 4x3 television without distortion?
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Old 12-15-08, 01:28 AM   #18
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So explain how I was able to watch 1080p HD material on my old 27" 4x3 television without distortion?
You missed his point, I believe. You said HD DVD and Blu-Ray was ENHANCED for 16:9, which is most certainly is not the case. Blu-Ray discs are not enhanced to fill a widescreen TV, they are encoded with a native aspect ratio of 16:9. This is not the case with DVD's, whose native aspect ratio is 4x3 and have to be 'enhanced' for widescreen TV's; there is no enhancing on a BD disc, its already that way to begin with.

Also, you didn't watch anything in 1080p on your old TV. The source disc may have been 1080p, but that 1080p signal was sent over standard cables, producing a 480p image. There is no 'downverting' or whatever you want to call it, you watched a NATIVE 16:9 picture, and will not do anything to fill that 4x3 screen except for a zoom feature or something of the sort on your DVD player.

He wasn't arguing that you could watch the discs, just that BD's do not 'downvert' or enhance or anything of that sort.
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Old 12-15-08, 01:43 AM   #19
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But a 16x9 image in a 4x3 would be distorted, no?

I remember a few DVD imports that were 16:9 natively and unless your 4x3 TV could squeeze, the image you got a distorted picture.

Wouldn't this be the case with Blu-ray and HD DVD? Warner even says 16x9 in the spec box for the high def titles.
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I remember a few DVD imports that were 16:9 natively and unless your 4x3 TV could squeeze, the image you got a distorted picture.
No, you did not. DVDs ARE NOT 16:9 natively. They are 4:3 natively, but widescreen content can be enhanced for 16:9 displays. If you set your DVD player to output to a 16:9 TV, you will see the enhancement, thereby getting a distorted picture on a 4:3 TV.

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Wouldn't this be the case with Blu-ray and HD DVD? Warner even says 16x9 in the spec box for the high def titles.
Why wouldn't the boxes say that? They are natively 16:9.
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But a 16x9 image in a 4x3 would be distorted, no?

I remember a few DVD imports that were 16:9 natively and unless your 4x3 TV could squeeze, the image you got a distorted picture.

Wouldn't this be the case with Blu-ray and HD DVD? Warner even says 16x9 in the spec box for the high def titles.
No, no. That is what we are saying. Your TV does nothing to the image, any changes or enhancements are done in the player or the dvd. The picture CAN be enhanced, and the player can squeeze, zoom, pan, all that good stuff. The picture on a DVD is ALWAYS made for a 4x3, and enhanced to fit the screen of a HDTV.

Whereas Blu-Ray is ENCODED as 16x9, and the player does nothing but present the image and sound as-is. Hence, both of those are much better on BD because they are not compressed as much and are free from enhancements to make the picture 'appear' better on your TV.
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Old 12-15-08, 01:38 PM   #23
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Whereas Blu-Ray is ENCODED as 16x9, and the player does nothing but present the image and sound as-is.
How does it work when a show on blu-ray is fullscreen? That would mean bars on the sides that can't be removed.

As far as I know, stuff can be fullscreen or widescreen on blu-ray. It just depends on the source, as if I burn a fullscreen video to a blu-ray disc, it isn't magically transformed to widescreen.
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Careful. Such terminology is ambiguous. Full screen on a 16:9 TV is a different animal than full screen on a 4:3 set. If you are talking about a 4:3 image on Blu-ray, they don't need to encode bars on the sides. They encode the program as 4:3 and it is displayed as such.
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Old 12-15-08, 03:33 PM   #25
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Careful. Such terminology is ambiguous. Full screen on a 16:9 TV is a different animal than full screen on a 4:3 set. If you are talking about a 4:3 image on Blu-ray, they don't need to encode bars on the sides. They encode the program as 4:3 and it is displayed as such.


I think you meant to say DVD there. Since Blu-ray is natively 16:9, any 4:3 content must be encoded with pillarbox bars on the sides.
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